Israel Bombs Iran

[CITIZEN_2015]

Russia's attacks or invasion of Ukraine was/is not right and must be condemned. But Israeli attack on Islamic Republic is justified. After decades of threats and forming Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthis and encouraging terrorist attack s on Israel and now going for nuclear weapons with threats to wipe off Israel and even killing their own people even women and children, it is time for someone to put a stop to all these and send them all to hell next to Satan who they are agents for on earth,

[Nationalist]

Sooo...we got a shiney new war to kibiz about...goodie.

This act will not quell antisemitism any.

Both wars are across the planet from us. Should our military be involved at all? 

Gawd help us...

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The only good result is the complete overthrow of this terrorist regime. Nothing short of that would secure Israel and the world. Remove those murderous leaders one by one by all available means and then support and encourage the suffering nation of Iran to rise up and overthrow this murderous terrorist regime.

History suggests that overthrowing this regime will only result in a new possibly even more corrupt regime appearing shortly in the future.

It kind of feels like a better choice might be to weaken and cripple this regime and leave it hobbling around on one leg while disrupting its programs like nuclear  weaponry. I mean it's not like the area hasn't had regime change before

[eyeball]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

This is bad.

Yawn...

This was inevitable - has been for nearly 100 years now.

Like Netanyahu said...the ME conflict is going global.

It's what we all voted for 🙂.

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Russia's attacks or invasion of Ukraine was/is not right and must be condemned. But Israeli attack on Islamic Republic is justified. After decades of threats and forming Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthis and encouraging terrorist attack s on Israel and now going for nuclear weapons with threats to wipe off Israel and even killing their own people even women and children, it is time for someone to put a stop to all these and send them all to hell next to Satan who they are agents for on earth,

Ok...here's where we diverge...some...

It has not escaped me that Orangemanbad was about to begin negotiations with Iran. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out out.

Brandon gave the Iranians cash. That worked out...poorly.

Trump was going to negotiate. The Zionists stopped that.

Let Israel wear this.

[CITIZEN_2015]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

History suggests that overthrowing this regime will only result in a new possibly even more corrupt regime appearing shortly in the future.

 

No not at all. Iran is not Iraq or Syria or Afghanistan. Iranians politically very mature. They had democracy in 1953 before the CIA sponsored coup ended it. Iranians are highly educated, politically mature and starve for freedom and democracy. Iran has 2500 years of history as a united country. It is not an imaginary country like Syria, Iraq or Iraq.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yawn...

This was inevitable - has been for nearly 100 years now.

Like Netanyahu said...the ME conflict is going global.

It's what we all voted for 🙂.

Sure.  100 years is about how long iran has been developing nuclear weapons. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Heck you've' been saying that since 1837. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 

Trump was going to negotiate. The Zionists stopped that.

Let Israel wear this.

No negotiation with terrorists. The Islamic regime only understand the language of force. They cheated before and would cheat again. Israel did the right thing. I just hope they continue to the end of this regime. 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

No not at all. Iran is not Iraq or Syria or Afghanistan. Iranians politically very mature. They had democracy in 1953 before the CIA sponsored coup ended it. Iranians are highly educated, politically mature and starve for freedom and democracy. Iran has 2500 years of history as a united country. It is not an imaginary country like Syria, Iraq or Iraq.

I am not saying that they are stupid. What I'm saying is that corrupt regimes seem to have great success figuring out how to take and hold power regardless. It has always been the case and I see no reason why it would be different now

1 minute ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

No negotiation with terrorists. The Islamic regime only understand the language of force. They cheated before and would cheat again. Israel did the right thing. I just hope they continue to the end of this regime. 

" I say we take off and nuke them from orbit. IT's the only way to be sure!"     

There's no doubt that iran would not keep it's word.  it will continue to work towards arming itself with nukes and any 'deal' it signs would be just to buy time and pretend to cooperate. 

Turning their facilities into rubble is the surest way in the short term, longer term they'll have to find a way to monitor that,

[eyeball]

Just now, CdnFox said:

Sure.  100 years is about how long iran has been developing nuclear weapons. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Heck you've' been saying that since 1837. 

No you're wrong, about 100 years is how long this conflict has been getting worse.

I've only been saying so for a few decades.

 

[CITIZEN_2015]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yawn...

This was inevitable - has been for nearly 100 years now.

Like Netanyahu said...the ME conflict is going global.

It's what we all voted for 🙂.

Islamic regime is a global threat. It is not only Israel under threat but the whole world once they have their murderous hands on nuclear weapons and means to deliver it in a few years time.

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yawn...

This was inevitable - has been for nearly 100 years now.

Like Netanyahu said...the ME conflict is going global.

It's what we all voted for 🙂.

I didn't vote for this. The ME is no concern of mine. I hope too many civilians don't die...

Other than that...if the Shiites and Zionists need a scrap to cool off...let 'em go at it. I mean...it's not like either of them have nukes...right?

[CITIZEN_2015]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

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Turning their facilities into rubble is the surest way in the short term, longer term they'll have to find a way to monitor that,

They will build again. They know how to restore fast. They have gained the knowledge now. You cannot destroy all those brains. The only sure way is the overthrow of this regime. The bombing must continue until that happens.

Edited Friday at 05:05 PM by CITIZEN_2015

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Islamic regime is a global threat. It is not only Israel under threat but the whole world once they have their murderous hands on nuclear weapons and means to deliver it in a few years time.

Yup.

England and the US should've left Mossadegh alone.

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I didn't vote for this.

Our society did. See Eisenhower and Churchill.

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

No negotiation with terrorists. The Islamic regime only understand the language of force. They cheated before and would cheat again. Israel did the right thing. I just hope they continue to the end of this regime. 

Well...it looks like we're gonna find out.

Ohhh...I bet Trump is fit to be tied today. Will he stand-up to the Zionists and pursue peace anyway? We'll see soon...

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No you're wrong, about 100 years is how long this conflict has been getting worse.

This conflict started on October 7th. At that point hamas, representing the people of Gaza, chose to initiate a war by attacking civilian targets deliberately with the intent of slaughtering innocent people as their primary goal.

The reason for doing this was not 100 years of history, but rather the simple fact that they believed that Israel would retaliate and that a few thousand of their people would be killed and they could translate that into political power and money at the UN.

It grossly underestimated the world response to slaughtering that many innocent people and are now paying the price.

This is not about the last hundred years. This conflict did not start 100 years ago. This cannot be justified in any shape or form by anything like repression or anything else. Gaza had numerous peaceful opportunities and paths for positive change if that's what they wanted and they chose violence that has led to self-destruction pretty much like Nazi Germany or imperial Japan.

End of story. Thanks for playing

[CITIZEN_2015]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yup.

England and the US should've left Mossadegh alone.

Yeah. The sun must have risen from the West today!!! Me and eyeball agreed on something!!!!!!

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yup.

England and the US should've left Mossadegh alone.

Our society did. See Eisenhower and Churchill.

My father didn't even vote for that!

No no no...this is none of our business. 

[Nationalist]

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

This conflict started on October 7th. At that point hamas, representing the people of Gaza, chose to initiate a war by attacking civilian targets deliberately with the intent of slaughtering innocent people as their primary goal.

The reason for doing this was not 100 years of history, but rather the simple fact that they believed that Israel would retaliate and that a few thousand of their people would be killed and they could translate that into political power and money at the UN.

It grossly underestimated the world response to slaughtering that many innocent people and are now paying the price.

This is not about the last hundred years. This conflict did not start 100 years ago. This cannot be justified in any shape or form by anything like repression or anything else. Gaza had numerous peaceful opportunities and paths for positive change if that's what they wanted and they chose violence that has led to self-destruction pretty much like Nazi Germany or imperial Japan.

End of story. Thanks for playing

Yup. This is true...unfortunately. 

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

That was a coup by mullahs. They created a hell for the nation of Iran since. They took this nation hostage and stole their resources and spent them on Iran's historic enemies (Arabs). 

The real regime change will take place by the nation of Iran now. Once the regime is weakened by bombardments and its leaders killed and the guards destroyed then the fed up people will pour into streets and take over.

A fee election will be held and at this time Prince Reza Pahlavi, the son of his imperial majesty (the Shah of Irab, God bless his soul) will likely win by a large majority. The sons and daughters of those who took part in 1979 coup have been cursing their parents for such action for decades and they have read or remember the golden years during the Pahlavi dynasty when Iran was free and powerful and the nation prosperous enjoying total social freedom (all kinds of freedoms except political freedom)

The Shah was hated nationwide for his secret police MURDERS to stay in power.

No one there liked the CIA Coup. Ayatollahs had the popular support then.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Russia's attacks or invasion of Ukraine was/is not right and must be condemned. But Israeli attack on Islamic Republic is justified. After decades of threats and forming Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthis and encouraging terrorist attack s on Israel and now going for nuclear weapons with threats to wipe off Israel and even killing their own people even women and children, it is time for someone to put a stop to all these and send them all to hell next to Satan who they are agents for on earth,

Unlike Israel, Iran has never threatened to invade or bomb Israel with nukes.

They have not even tried to build a nuke, but that is likely to change now, after this pre-emptive attack. 

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Sooo...we got a shiney new war to kibiz about...goodie.

This act will not quell antisemitism any.

Both wars are across the planet from us. Should our military be involved at all? 

Gawd help us...

The US has been involved in Israeli military for decades.

[CdnFox]

Just now, robosmith said:

Unlike Israel, Iran has never threatened to invade or bomb Israel with nukes.

 

Israel threatened to invade and bomb israel with nukes?

You really don't get how english works do you  

And iran has been actively funding attacks on israel for years. 

 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yawn...

This was inevitable - has been for nearly 100 years now.

Like Netanyahu said...the ME conflict is going global.

It's what we all voted for 🙂.

I didn't vote for Netanyahu's best buddy Trump.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ok...here's where we diverge...some...

It has not escaped me that Orangemanbad was about to begin negotiations with Iran. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out out.

Brandon gave the Iranians cash. That worked out...poorly.

Trump was going to negotiate. The Zionists stopped that.

Let Israel wear this.

Nope. The cash offered to Iran was THEIR'S from ACOUNTS FROZEN BY SANCTIONS.

Too bad you COMLETELY MISSED the FACT that it was NEVER DELIVERED. 

Another thing you're WRONG ABOUT. LMAO

 

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In October 2019, the Trump administration made the money in those accounts available to Iran for limited humanitarian purposes, although the banks didn’t use that accommodation much due to the increased reporting it required.

As the Washington Institute for Near East Policy explained, “participants and observers complained that the ‘enhanced due diligence’ requirements were too much of a burden.”

So, even though there were mechanisms to disperse Iranian assets, “the South Koreans weren’t interested,” Patrick Clawson, director of research at the Washington Institute, told us last year. “From the beginning, South Korean banks were reluctant to use it because they feared the U.S. could change its mind and come back and fine them.”

The prisoner swap deal in September moved that money from South Korea to Qatar, although it is available only for humanitarian purposes. John Kirby, spokesman for the National Security Council, said in October that Iran hadn’t accessed any of the money.

Abram Paley, the State Department deputy special envoy for Iran, said the same thing in December during a House Financial Services Committee hearing.

“Not a penny of this money has been spent and these funds will not go anywhere anytime soon,” Paley said, although he didn’t explain what mechanism was keeping the funds static.

 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well...it looks like we're gonna find out.

Ohhh...I bet Trump is fit to be tied today. Will he stand-up to the Zionists and pursue peace anyway? We'll see soon...

Nope. Trump gave Netanyahu the green light, even though Witkoff was on his way to negotiate with Iran. What a boob. 🤮