National Guard and Marines about to be deployed to LA!

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Be thankful you live in a country that hasn’t put troops in the streets for over 50 years.

Why? I don't crap on beaches...or at the gas pumps. Nor do I do drugs on the sidewalks or sleep on them.

The Canada I know is now a mess.

[robosmith]

11 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

You can apply for asylum, but if you have no grounds (evidence) for it they don't even have to hear your claim.  And if you're an asylum seeker you should be applying for it ASAP after entering the US, not when they're threatening to deport you.

Too many people are taking advantage of western kindness.

Most immigrants these days head straight for the nearest office and submit their asylum application.

 

12 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Why? I don't crap on beaches...or at the gas pumps. Nor do I do drugs on the sidewalks or sleep on them.

The Canada I know is now a mess.

What are YOU doing to HELP those homeless addicted persons? I'll bet it's NOTHING, because you don't care enough to DO  ANYTHING to HELP THEM.

[User]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Most immigrants these days head straight for the nearest office and submit their asylum application.

This is an outright lie. 

 

[Deluge]

14 hours ago, herbie said:

Not up to the Mayor or the Governor, eh? The fat mouthed lout must order that himself.

The mayor and governor are in violation of federal law. I hope they pull their heads out of their asses before ICE starts arresting the a$$holes for obstruction.  

[CDN1]

Democrats and liberal institutions have caved to an Anti-White, anti-West revenge cult. Absolute suicide.

We are on an inevitable path to destruction now. White liberals are going to find out very quickly that being progressive allies doesn't mean shit in a violent destabilized society.

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by CDN1

[CdnFox]

34 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What are YOU doing to HELP those homeless addicted persons? I'll bet it's NOTHING, because you don't care enough to DO  ANYTHING to HELP THEM.

That's RIGHT @Nationalist!!!! Are you even LETTING them pick your veggiest for you at starvation wages like someone who REALLY cares?!?!

"The LEAST you could do is let them pick your zucchini for you at below minimum wage!!!!"

-  Robosmith, Left Wing philanthropist and humanitarian

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

The left has a bad habit of instilling lawlessness, violence and discord, and then being shocked when it gets out of control and blaming the right for actually dealing with it. 

[Nationalist]

35 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Most immigrants these days head straight for the nearest office and submit their asylum application.

 

What are YOU doing to HELP those homeless addicted persons? I'll bet it's NOTHING, because you don't care enough to DO  ANYTHING to HELP THEM.

Pee-wee...my tax money is wasted on these wastoids. So is yours but...I assume smoking zucchini has clouded your judgement.

[robosmith]

47 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Pee-wee...my tax money is wasted on these wastoids. So is yours but...I assume smoking zucchini has clouded your judgement.

That's YOU, always ASSuming and never VERIFYING, which makes you wrong all the time.

[User]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

That's YOU, always ASSuming and never VERIFYING, which makes you wrong all the time.

Then show us where you got your asylum numbers. 

 

[Aristides]

It might be worth remembering that these folks are just people like you and I. The great "crime" for most of them is to want a better life for themselves and their families.

Entering the country illegally doesn't make them scum.

People become addicts for many reasons that they wouldn't have chosen if life had turned out differently for them. 

That doesn't make them scum either.

[User]

Just now, Aristides said:

It might be worth remembering that these folks are just people like you and I. The great "crime" for most of them is to want a better life for themselves and their families.

Entering the country illegally doesn't make them scum.

People become addicts for many reasons that they wouldn't have chosen if life had turned out differently for them. 

That doesn't make them scum either.

This is a thread about deploying the National Guard to LA because of violence and riots meant to thwart ICE and other law enforcement agencies from doing their jobs. 

So... which folks are you talking about here?

 

[Moonlight Graham]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It might be worth remembering that these folks are just people like you and I. The great "crime" for most of them is to want a better life for themselves and their families.

Entering the country illegally doesn't make them scum.

People become addicts for many reasons that they wouldn't have chosen if life had turned out differently for them. 

That doesn't make them scum either.

This is irrelevant.  The point is they broke the law, and need to be deported because they're in violation of the law.  When ICE comes to arrest them protestors can protest but they should not attack ICE agents, and if they do they should be arrested and charged.

Edited 10 hours ago by Moonlight Graham

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, User said:

This is a thread about deploying the National Guard to LA because of violence and riots meant to thwart ICE and other law enforcement agencies from doing their jobs. 

So... which folks are you talking about here?

 

I don't condone violence but maybe you should at least consider the cause for it as well as condemning it. 

[User]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I don't condone violence but maybe you should at least consider the cause for it as well as condemning it. 

Oh... so, what is the cause for the violence? Who were the folks you were talking about?

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by User

[Aristides]

Just now, User said:

Oh... so, what is the cause for the violence? 

 

There is no cause for violence but maybe you should ask what people are upset about.

[User]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

There is no cause for violence but maybe you should ask what people are upset about.

Then why did you say this: "but maybe you should at least consider the cause for it"

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It might be worth remembering that these folks are just people like you and I. The great "crime" for most of them is to want a better life for themselves and their families.

Entering the country illegally doesn't make them scum.

People become addicts for many reasons that they wouldn't have chosen if life had turned out differently for them. 

That doesn't make them scum either.

Crossing the border illegally makes them criminals. But you don't care because when it comes right down to it, you would hate your own kids if they liked Trump.

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

There is no cause for violence but maybe you should ask what people are upset about.

No cause for violence...unless you're a Libbie.. 

[Aristides]

One thing that seems common to many MAGAT's is their total lack of empathy for anything older than a foetus.

[User]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

One thing that seems common to many MAGAT's is their total lack of empathy for anything older than a foetus.

Well, it is common for you to say things here and then run away from them when challenged and asked questions. 

 

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It might be worth remembering that these folks are just people like you and I. The great "crime" for most of them is to want a better life for themselves and their families.

 

But that's really not their crime. Nobody would blame them for wanting that, but their crime was is how they went about it.

I mean the Nazis wanted a better life for themselves and their families and they thought they would get that by invading other countries and killing the Jews. We judge them on their actions, not on their motives.

A person could want a better life for their family and use that as an excuse to break into someone else's home and steal all their money and valuables. Does that make the theft okay or less of a crime?

They're big crime was choosing to break the law of another country and take and do things that they had no right to. If they wanted a better life for their family than they should have stayed where they were and got together with their neighbors and made one. Which is exactly what the people of America and Canada did in their day when they decided to build the countries we know now. 

And while I don't think we should necessarily look at all of them as evil people with evil intent, although I'm sure a portion of them are, there has to be a price for what they've done

[Aristides]

6 minutes ago, User said:

Well, it is common for you to say things here and then run away from them when challenged and asked questions. 

 

What are you asking?

 

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But that's really not their crime. Nobody would blame them for wanting that, but their crime was is how they went about it.

I mean the Nazis wanted a better life for themselves and their families and they thought they would get that by invading other countries and killing the Jews. We judge them on their actions, not on their motives.

A person could want a better life for their family and use that as an excuse to break into someone else's home and steal all their money and valuables. Does that make the theft okay or less of a crime?

They're big crime was choosing to break the law of another country and take and do things that they had no right to. If they wanted a better life for their family than they should have stayed where they were and got together with their neighbors and made one. Which is exactly what the people of America and Canada did in their day when they decided to build the countries we know now. 

And while I don't think we should necessarily look at all of them as evil people with evil intent, although I'm sure a portion of them are, there has to be a price for what they've done

They aren't stealing anything. All they want is the same opportunities you and I have.

[User]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

What are you asking?

Well, now I would like to know why you constantly play dumb like this?

Before, you need look no farther than a few posts up...

 

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They aren't stealing anything. All they want is the same opportunities you and I have.

The looters in LA right now, taking advantage of the riots are not stealing anything?

 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

One thing that seems common to many MAGAT's is their total lack of empathy for anything older than a foetus.

You say that jokingly but you're actually not all that far off from the truth, and it acutally is quite fascinating to see the contrast when you look at the REAL difference between the right wing and left wing 

It would be more accurate to say that in general the right wing believes that those who are able to help themselves should always do so to the furthest extent they are able, and that those who are defenseless and unable to care for themselves should be protected.

In other words it's about personal responsibility. You are responsible for your actions and have a duty to make your own life as much as it's possible for you to do so, and THEN people will help after that.  But if you fail in your duty to do what you can then there's no sympathy. 

A fetus can't defend itself, and therefore deserves protection (if you believe that a fetus is a human prior to birth specifically). Same with a newborn. To a degree same with women. Etc etc

An immigrant who entered the country illegally absolutely had other choices. They have placed themselves in the situation they are in. They did not do what they could to make their own life better, they've tried cheats and shortcuts. So ... why would anyone have 'Sympathy" for that?

 

The thing is that mentality makes for children who are much stronger, more self reliant and self confident and who are the kind of people who grow up to make their communities stronger and more successful because they were taught that it's their job, not someone else's to have 'sympathy' for them and do it for them instead. 

Whereas left wing children grow  up believing they have no power to do things themselves. They must either beg or force others to do it, break the laws and scream till they get what they want, destroy and tear down rather than create and build up, and their kids grow up to be drags on society.

The right wing way to teach people to stand on their own feet is better. 

 

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They aren't stealing anything. All they want is the same opportunities you and I have.

Those are opportunities we and our forefathers created and gifted to us. If they are not given by us through a legal process than they are absolutely stealing them.

I could want the same car you have but if I take your car without your permission that's stealing

[Aristides]

8 minutes ago, User said:

Well, now I would like to know why you constantly play dumb like this?

Before, you need look no farther than a few posts up...

 

The looters in LA right now, taking advantage of the riots are not stealing anything?

 

That's what looters do.