It's time to create Mobile Democratic Party to sovle this country's problems

[MDP]

The root of this country's problems is the election that allow rulers control all the politics for 4 years and most people can do nothing for 4 years. As result, the rulers made many wrong decisions.

The main principle of democracy: obey the majority. All decisions should be made by all the people. We can do it today.

Since we are not satisfied with Liberal Party and Conservative Party, we need a brand new party that serves all the people. I would like to introduce Mobile Democratic Party to you.

Mobile Democratic Party uses today's powerful mobile communication system to hold elections and vote, and establish truely democracy: Everyone votes directly on every policy, not just politicians.

No more struggling between Liberal Party, Conservative Party or other political parties. Always focus on finding the right solutions.

Mobile Democratic Party will allow you express your opinion everytime and vote anywhere.

For those who do not want others make decisions for them, it's time to create local Mobile Democratic Party organizations.

More on: https://mobilephoneparty.wixsite.com/mobile-democratic--1

[ExFlyer]

You are saying every citizen should use their cell phone to vote on every bit of legistaltion??? A TiKTok party??  Most Canadians do not have any idea of what goes on on their street let alone city, Province and certainly not in the entire country with international implications LOL

 

As I have so often said, I am not an American but I do agree with their policy of not having a President for more then 2 terms.

I think that we should adopt such a policy.

The problem as I see it though is if you have a party like the Conservatives, they cannot find a leader and keep losing elections, time after time with new leaders.

[MDP]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

You are saying every citizen should use their cell phone to vote on every bit of legistaltion??? A TiKTok party??  Most Canadians do not have any idea of what goes on on their street let alone city, Province and certainly not in the entire country with international implications LOL

 

As I have so often said, I am not an American but I do agree with their policy of not having a President for more then 2 terms.

I think that we should adopt such a policy.

The problem as I see it though is if you have a party like the Conservatives, they cannot find a leader and keep losing elections, time after time with new leaders.

Yes. 'every citizen should use their cell phone to vote on every bit of legistaltion' or they have an option that authorize someone else vote for them. Like today we all authorize MPs by election to vote for us.

Canadians can vote directly what they knew. Authorize someone vote for what they don't know.

The PM and leader that we choose are for proposing the solutions. We vote for making the decision.

[herbie]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

As I have so often said, I am not an American but I do agree with their policy of not having a President for more then 2 terms.

I think that we should adopt such a policy.

I tend to agree. Presidents and Prime Ministers are not the same thing.
I think the adoption of the four year election cycle was dumb, we already had a fixed limit and was mere suckage to US style politics. As was the removal of federal election funding.
There is nothing wrong with our current NDP other than it requires revitalization. It sure as hell does not to move further to the right on populist' policies. 

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, MDP said:

Yes. 'every citizen should use their cell phone to vote on every bit of legistaltion' or they have an option that authorize someone else vote for them. Like today we all authorize MPs by election to vote for us.

Canadians can vote directly what they knew. Authorize someone vote for what they don't know.

The PM and leader that we choose are for proposing the solutions. We vote for making the decision.

Gosh, if our representatives/elected officials cannot get along to deal with things that they are intimately involved with, how could you ask or expect 20+ million people on the other end of a cell phone to know?

[Army Guy]

Majority of Canadians are not interested in politics, Canadians care about a few things hockey, the beer store, weed, and what is happening in their own bubble...getting people to educate themselves on the nations political problems is a pipe dream....it would swing from what is best for the nation to one that is best for individuals...it would be a nightmare

[MDP]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Gosh, if our representatives/elected officials cannot get along to deal with things that they are intimately involved with, how could you ask or expect 20+ million people on the other end of a cell phone to know?

It's ok that you don't want it. That's you choice.

[MDP]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Majority of Canadians are not interested in politics, Canadians care about a few things hockey, the beer store, weed, and what is happening in their own bubble...getting people to educate themselves on the nations political problems is a pipe dream....it would swing from what is best for the nation to one that is best for individuals...it would be a nightmare

Direct democracy was practiced in ancient Greece more than 2,000 years ago. Direct democracy can also be practiced today with the help of a powerful communication system.

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, MDP said:

Direct democracy was practiced in ancient Greece more than 2,000 years ago. Direct democracy can also be practiced today with the help of a powerful communication system.

And what happens when one group of canadians don't want something and another does, take pipelines for instance the west wants them , Quebec might have an issue....or another take gun control for instance, people living in the big cities don't like guns, those of us in the country use guns as a tool.

Your getting rid of major political parties and replace them with lobby groups...Same story different packaging.

[MDP]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

And what happens when one group of canadians don't want something and another does, take pipelines for instance the west wants them , Quebec might have an issue....or another take gun control for instance, people living in the big cities don't like guns, those of us in the country use guns as a tool.

Your getting rid of major political parties and replace them with lobby groups...Same story different packaging.

The difference between majority decision making and minority decision making.

There are always have issues and it is important to get to the balance point.

Political parties still can be there.

Edited yesterday at 04:09 AM by MDP

[Queenmandy85]

Most of us do not have the time, education and resources to help us make decisions about pending legislation. That is why we elect MP's. Your reference to Greece is actually only the city of Athens. In that example, most people did not have the vote. Slaves and women had no say. It was a minority that voted and the administrative culture in that brief period was far differenent than a 21st century industrial society. 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Queenmandy85

[WestCanMan]

@MDP

You can't cure our democracy without an overhaul of our corrupt media. Fully 50% of our electorate is badly misinformed, so how are those people supposed to make informed decisions in their own best interests?

Eg, people here injected their kids with bogus 'vaccines' that they never needed, they advocated for young adults to be forced to take them as well, and those bogus vaccines grievously harmed and even killed some of them. 

"Meh. Covid deaths only went up by 36% in 2022, so f- them", right?

Edited 10 hours ago by WestCanMan

[Army Guy]

18 hours ago, MDP said:

The difference between majority decision making and minority decision making.

There are always have issues and it is important to get to the balance point.

Political parties still can be there.

No, the difference is Canadians will choose to do what is best for THEM, or group , or region....and not for the COUNTRY....

NO,doing what is best for the country as a whole is what should be priority, and that is not always what is best for the people or their interests....take defence for instance, or our entire security apparatus , now what is going to take precedence a major tax break for individuals or defending the country...i could see in a some  cases where public opinion could be taken into account, but most cases government needs to take a whats best for the country approach...had that been done in the last 10 years we would not be in the pickle we are now...

[MDP]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

@MDP

You can't cure our democracy without an overhaul of our corrupt media. Fully 50% of our electorate is badly misinformed, so how are those people supposed to make informed decisions in their own best interests?

Eg, people here injected their kids with bogus 'vaccines' that they never needed, they advocated for young adults to be forced to take them as well, and those bogus vaccines grievously harmed and even killed some of them. 

"Meh. Covid deaths only went up by 36% in 2022, so f- them", right?

Corrupt media have always existed and have been misinformed electorate. Fair media also exist widely, although sometimes they are suppressed. But the truth will always come out. Today's information sources are more diverse, such as Facebook, X, Tiktok, and the truth is becoming more difficult to cover up. The truth is easier for people to see than it was decades ago. The truth may be covered up for a while, but it will not be covered up forever. Eg, IShowSpeed's China trip videos made many Americans suddenly realize that China is far more developed than the corrupt American media told them.

The future is bright. Democracy cannot stop moving forward just because electorate are sometimes misinformed.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, MDP said:

Corrupt media have always existed and have been misinformed electorate. Fair media also exist widely, although sometimes they are suppressed. But the truth will always come out. Today's information sources are more diverse, such as Facebook, X, Tiktok, and the truth is becoming more difficult to cover up. The truth is easier for people to see than it was decades ago. The truth may be covered up for a while, but it will not be covered up forever. Eg, IShowSpeed's China trip videos made many Americans suddenly realize that China is far more developed than the corrupt American media told them.

The future is bright. Democracy cannot stop moving forward just because electorate are sometimes misinformed.

It's 2025 and we theoretically just re-elected the LPOC, despite ten years of scandals and the fact that Carney got caught telling multiple huge lies in his few weeks on the campaign trail.

Our MSM has been openly bribed with taxpayer money in each of the last 4 elections. 

This is the exact opposite of 'democracy'. It's a farce. Elections in China and NoKo are no less legitimate than ours. 

[Queenmandy85]

3 hours ago, MDP said:

Corrupt media have always existed and have been misinformed electorate. Fair media also exist widely, although sometimes they are suppressed. But the truth will always come out. Today's information sources are more diverse, such as Facebook, X, Tiktok, and the truth is becoming more difficult to cover up. The truth is easier for people to see than it was decades ago. The truth may be covered up for a while, but it will not be covered up forever. Eg, IShowSpeed's China trip videos made many Americans suddenly realize that China is far more developed than the corrupt American media told them.

The future is bright. Democracy cannot stop moving forward just because electorate are sometimes misinformed.

You cannot believe anything on the internet. This has been true for more than 25 years. Now, AI, makes it imposibe to trust anything on a computer. 

The idea of voting with a computer/ cellprone ignores the ease with which our devices are used for nefarious purposes, meaning the results of any vote with them is meaningless. A half dozen people in Beijing can control the outcomes of every vote.

 

[MDP]

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

No, the difference is Canadians will choose to do what is best for THEM, or group , or region....and not for the COUNTRY....

NO,doing what is best for the country as a whole is what should be priority, and that is not always what is best for the people or their interests....take defence for instance, or our entire security apparatus , now what is going to take precedence a major tax break for individuals or defending the country...i could see in a some  cases where public opinion could be taken into account, but most cases government needs to take a whats best for the country approach...had that been done in the last 10 years we would not be in the pickle we are now...

Isn't what is good for the whole country also good for the majority of the people?
You think that national interests should be priority. Others may.think so too.

Regarding national defense, strengthening national defense is a way to maintain peace, and reducing the risk of war is also a way to maintain peace. This is why there are arms control treaties.

[MDP]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's 2025 and we theoretically just re-elected the LPOC, despite ten years of scandals and the fact that Carney got caught telling multiple huge lies in his few weeks on the campaign trail.

Our MSM has been openly bribed with taxpayer money in each of the last 4 elections. 

This is the exact opposite of 'democracy'. It's a farce. Elections in China and NoKo are no less legitimate than ours. 

Because mobile democracy allows for quick and easy voting, lying will be reflected in the voting results quickly, which will definitely reduce lying. Mobile voting is economical and reduces the waste of taxpayer money

[MDP]

49 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

You cannot believe anything on the internet. This has been true for more than 25 years. Now, AI, makes it imposibe to trust anything on a computer. 

The idea of voting with a computer/ cellprone ignores the ease with which our devices are used for nefarious purposes, meaning the results of any vote with them is meaningless. A half dozen people in Beijing can control the outcomes of every vote.

 

But we trust online banking and use online tax returns.
It’s becoming more difficult to use the Internet for nefarious purposes, otherwise there would be no online banking.

[Aristides]

On 6/5/2025 at 10:56 AM, MDP said:

Yes. 'every citizen should use their cell phone to vote on every bit of legistaltion' or they have an option that authorize someone else vote for them. Like today we all authorize MPs by election to vote for us.

Canadians can vote directly what they knew. Authorize someone vote for what they don't know.

The PM and leader that we choose are for proposing the solutions. We vote for making the decision.

Half the population don't even watch the news, let alone read legislation. Also, every citizen would have to register their cell phone with Elections Canada, have it verified and have a separate pin to vote. 

[MDP]

8 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Most of us do not have the time, education and resources to help us make decisions about pending legislation. That is why we elect MP's. Your reference to Greece is actually only the city of Athens. In that example, most people did not have the vote. Slaves and women had no say. It was a minority that voted and the administrative culture in that brief period was far differenent than a 21st century industrial society. 

 

Mobile voting provides everyone with the opportunity to vote directly, but of course some people may not use it, just like some people don't go to vote in elections. There are always some pending legislation that you would like to vote on directly. For me, I would definitely vote directly on pending legislation that determines whether to go to war.
Regarding the city of Athens, only citizens have the right to vote, and no one else is eligible to vote.
 

[MDP]

17 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Half the population don't even watch the news, let alone read legislation. Also, every citizen would have to register their cell phone with Elections Canada, have it verified and have a separate pin to vote. 

Perhaps people wll watch the news and read  legislation once they registered mobile voting app.

[Queenmandy85]

41 minutes ago, MDP said:

But we trust online banking and use online tax returns.
It’s becoming more difficult to use the Internet for nefarious purposes, otherwise there would be no online banking.

I would never use online banking, no would I file my tax returns online. A good rule of thumb is never type anything on a computer that you don't want to read on the front page of the Globe and Mail. There is no such thing as a secure computer connected to the internet.

Edited 2 hours ago by Queenmandy85

[Aristides]

25 minutes ago, MDP said:

Perhaps people wll watch the news and read  legislation once they registered mobile voting app.

Perhaps but will you read a 500 page bill and understand it? 

[Queenmandy85]

46 minutes ago, MDP said:

Mobile voting provides everyone with the opportunity to vote directly, but of course some people may not use it, just like some people don't go to vote in elections. There are always some pending legislation that you would like to vote on directly. For me, I would definitely vote directly on pending legislation that determines whether to go to war.
Regarding the city of Athens, only citizens have the right to vote, and no one else is eligible to vote.
 

Under our constitution, only the Executive branch of government has the authority to declare war. By convention, the Executive puts a resolution before Parliament to declare war. Of course, if Parliament declines to vote taxes to finance the war, the Canadian Forces will not be operational.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Queenmandy85