MAGA - American Nationalism

[August1991]

We foreigners are proud - our flag, language.

I am surprised that any foreigner is surprised when an American does the same. 

[August1991]

Newfoundland is Catholic and Protestant. Newfoundlanders get along.

Canada is both English and French, Catholic and Protestant. we sometimes vote by language, religion. Our team.

[Michael Hardner]

Canada is also "native" foundationally.

But... WHO is surprised by American patriotism?

 

It's not really something that happens to a significant degree IMO ie. People being surprised by an aspect of culture that's pervasive 

The cultural lens always blots out blind spots though, and generally I agree that THAT is a thing 

 

 

Edited June 11, 2025 by Michael Hardner

[August1991]

On 6/11/2025 at 9:01 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Canada is also "native" foundationally.

But... WHO is surprised by American patriotism?

 

It's not really something that happens to a significant degree IMO ie. People being surprised by an aspect of culture that's pervasive 

The cultural lens always blots out blind spots though, and generally I agree that THAT is a thing 

 

 

Michael,

I have no patience for this "foundational" nonsense.

Trudeau Snr wanted a Charter: an individual's clear protection against the power of the State.

Trudeau Snr was forced to compromise.

[August1991]

Trump is a Nationalist - but he's no Hitler.

[Michael Hardner]

18 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Michael,

I have no patience for this "foundational" nonsense.

 

And yet, here you are... A Francophone, whose people were tolerated by the British.

[August1991]

19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And yet, here you are... A Francophone, whose people were tolerated by the British.

Some people were here first. Others later.

In America, some people were forced to be here.

In Canada, we get along. And we still have two languages.

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Cuba and Brazil are remarkable; skin colour doesn't matter.

In Jamaica (and the US), skin color matters.  

[August1991]

On 6/17/2025 at 9:17 PM, Michael Hardner said:

And yet, here you are... A Francophone, whose people were tolerated by the British.

To win, Carney (and Trudeau Jnr) played the nationalist card. 

Trump is playing this card too, surprised?

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Trudeau Snr played the nationalist card wisely, with care.

Mulroney?   

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

To win, Carney (and Trudeau Jnr) played the nationalist card. 

Trump is playing this card too, surprised?

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Trudeau Snr played the nationalist card wisely, with care.

Mulroney?   

I'm not surprised.

As you say, we get along.

Edited June 21, 2025 by Michael Hardner

[August1991]

Trump is a nationalist - he is proud of his country.

Carney? Not so much.

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IMHO, this guy Poilievre should have stood up for Canada, including his wife. 

[August1991]

Trump is doing what many leftwing, progressive Canadians are doing.

He is encouraging Americans to buy local.

[paxamericana]

Lets establish the fact that in America we have what is called the French-Louisiana purchase. Many of the settlers came from France Acadia. America have a french speaking population like Canada who are their direct descendent. However, their numbers are becoming fewer with each generation. @August1991

Edited August 12, 2025 by paxamericana

[Nationalist]

On 8/12/2025 at 9:33 AM, paxamericana said:

Lets establish the fact that in America we have what is called the French-Louisiana purchase. Many of the settlers came from France Acadia. America have a french speaking population like Canada who are their direct descendent. However, their numbers are becoming fewer with each generation. @August1991

I'm not sure from this post, but it seems backwards.

The Acadians came from PEI originally. Learn about what John Cabot did once landing in PEI.

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I'm not sure from this post, but it seems backwards.

The Acadians came from PEI originally. Learn about what John Cabot did once landing in PEI.

The area changed hands a few time between the Spanish and French but settlers in the Louisiana Purchase of 1803 were from both Acadia and France and Spain. 

 

[Nationalist]

15 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

The area changed hands a few time between the Spanish and French but settlers in the Louisiana Purchase of 1803 were from both Acadia and France and Spain. 

 

Ya that sounds about right I guess.

[Aristides]

On 6/21/2025 at 4:36 AM, August1991 said:

To win, Carney (and Trudeau Jnr) played the nationalist card. 

Trump is playing this card too, surprised?

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Trudeau Snr played the nationalist card wisely, with care.

Mulroney?   

Carney was able to play the nationalist card because of Trump. PP would be PM now if it wasn't for Trump's nationalism.

[August1991]

On 8/14/2025 at 1:48 PM, Aristides said:

Carney was able to play the nationalist card because of Trump. PP would be PM now if it wasn't for Trump's nationalism.

Agreed.

IOW, Trump made Carney our PM. And Trump knows this.

[August1991]

Trudeau Snr and Lévesque were wise to all these games.

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You can quote me:

Trudeau Snr was a federalist more than a democrat.

Lévesque was a democrat more than a federalist.

Edited August 16, 2025 by August1991

[Shady]

On 8/16/2025 at 2:42 AM, August1991 said:

Agreed.

IOW, Trump made Carney our PM. And Trump knows this.

Exactly.  Trump irrationally frightened boomers into thinking Canada was actually going to be annexed.  Every other age bracket voted Conservative, the large the margin the younger the age bracket.  That schtick only works once.  Carney is doomed. 

[Nationalist]

*sigh*

Here's what's going on in Australia. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czjmre371l1o

And Ireland. 

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/northern-ireland/2025/06/irelands-anti-immigrant-rage-will-not-go-away

And Germany. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqlyr02125o

And why? Well try actually READING and UNDERSTANDING the common thread...for once. 

The Liberal ideal that Western Nations must accommodate WAY too many migrants all at once, has CAUSED this Nationalist uproar. And...normally calm accepting people...are roaring.

That the MSM and Liberal politicians use terms like NAZI and FAR RIGHT WING is of no consequence... it's at the point now that those terms no longer mean jack.

So...Libbies...your own ideology CREATED and AMPLIFIED anti-immigration and Nationalist leanings in the general public.

You made us.

Enjoy that.

Edited September 5, 2025 by Nationalist

[August1991]

On 9/4/2025 at 3:35 PM, Shady said:

Exactly.  Trump irrationally frightened boomers into thinking Canada was actually going to be annexed.  Every other age bracket voted Conservative, the large the margin the younger the age bracket.  That schtick only works once.  Carney is doomed. 

.....

Trump knew exactly what he was doing.

He wanted Carney as Canada's leader.