eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 7 minutes ago, User said: The history of this current conflict started that day. So what? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 1 minute ago, eyeball said: So what? So what was your point? Quote
blackbird Posted June 3 Author Report Posted June 3 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: ...fiction you say? LMAO! quote The majority of Palestinians are Muslim, with approximately 85% of the population in the West Bank being Muslim, including Israeli settlers. In the Gaza Strip, around 99% of the population follows Islam. " There you have it. So that explains why they support Hamas and other terrorist organizations that want to destroy Israel. Islam does not allow for another religion to exist in their midst. It is as simple as that. Quote
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 11 minutes ago, User said: So what was your point? You know perfectly well what it is. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 1 minute ago, eyeball said: You know perfectly well what it is. Then why are you asking me what mine is if it was a response to yours? Quote
blackbird Posted June 3 Author Report Posted June 3 (edited) 27 minutes ago, eyeball said: ...fiction you say? LMAO! "The majority of the Palestine population is Muslim of the Sunni sect, and they account for 93% of the total population. Palestinian Muslims consider Jerusalem as an important part of their religion, with the Al-Aqsa mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem being regarded as the 3rd holiest site in the Muslim world. According to Islam, it is believed that Mohammed was taken from the sacred mosque in Mecca to the mosque of Al-Aqsa in the night journey. Accessing the site poses challenges to Palestinians because it involves several formalities, with casual visits being prohibited. Muslims in Palestine practice their religion with some dimensions to the popular religion. In the recent past radicalization has taken root with the interpretation of religion replacing the more tolerant and informal understating of society and religion." Religious Beliefs In Palestine - WorldAtlas Islam has extremist beliefs and violence to spread their religion. The extremist beliefs are at the root of the terrorist groups that operate in the middle east and other places. They are willing to die for Islam. If you want to know more about why they are fighting the middle east, go to: Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth It is not land that is their main objective. It is the destruction of Israel and the elimination of Judaism in Israel. Edited June 3 by blackbird Quote
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 3 minutes ago, User said: Then why are you asking me what mine is if it was a response to yours? Let me rephrase my response.... The history of this current conflict started that day. So what. Now it's a statement. Deal with it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted June 3 Author Report Posted June 3 (edited) Most Canadians believe religion and society can live together in a degree of harmony. That is how people live in the west. But that is not how followers of Islam look at it in the middle east. They do not believe in a free society where everyone has the freedom to practice their religion. Many Islamists believe other religions are not allowed to exist in their territory or country. This is more true in the middle east where human rights are unknown and not respected. Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth Edited June 3 by blackbird Quote
User Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Now it's a statement. Deal with it. As was mine. Deal with it. Quote
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 Just now, User said: As was mine. Deal with it. I did. Oct 7 is just another regrettable day in an ongoing conflict that's never stopped since it started 100 years ago. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 Just now, eyeball said: I did. Oct 7 is just another regrettable day in an ongoing conflict that's never stopped since it started 100 years ago. What happened on October 7th was not just another day. It was the single largest loss of life since Israel was founded and largest terror attack in Israel's history. Hardly just another day. It is you saying crap like this that leads to me accurately saying you don't care, you support Hamas, and would just as soon see this continue to happen to Israel over and over and over again as you offer no other solutions for them other than their ceasing to exist. Quote
CdnFox Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 1 hour ago, eyeball said: The only goalpost that moved is the notion history started on Oct 7. I didn't move it. No, that was the original position. That's when this conflict started. You are the one TRYING to move it. You're claiming 100's of years of irrelevant bullcrap and then claiming that israel and canada are to blame the war started on oct 7. The people involved in starting that war made their own decisions, they were not forced, they had free will, they made a decision. History has zero to do with it. They had a choice - violence or peace, and they chose violence Now everything that happened since is their responsibilty. But they didn't stop there, they chose to hide behind their civvies, they chose not to surrender, they chose to allow their people to be killed. You ARE the one trying to move the goalposts and shift the blame and that's not ok. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 11 minutes ago, User said: What happened on October 7th was not just another day. It was the single largest loss of life since Israel was founded and largest terror attack in Israel's history. Hardly just another day. It is when you consider there have always been far far more Palestinian victims of the hostilities that started 100 years ago. Along with plenty of the disgraceful hostilities that occured on Oct 7. I've shown you documented evidence of this in fact. Sadly, you probably haven't seen anything yet. 36 minutes ago, User said: It is you saying crap like this that leads to me accurately saying you don't care, Please...its simply your own personal feelings and beliefs causing you to conclude this. I'm quite certain there's lots of good old fashioned right vs left animosity also shaping your views. I've always been quite honest about how they've shaped mine. 46 minutes ago, User said: you support Hamas, and would just as soon see this continue to happen to Israel over and over and over again as you offer no other solutions for them other than their ceasing to exist. I've come to understand why this will continue not that it should. You've chosen to believe the latter because of who and what you are, not me. These are why I'll always tell you to fùck off when you proclaim I support rapists and murderers. It's an utterly disgusting thing to accuse someone off and it says way way more about you when you do. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: No, that was the original position. That's when this conflict started. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Too bad your position is why this will persist into the indefinite future. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: It is when you consider Non-Sequitor. 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: These are why I'll always tell you to fùck off when you proclaim I support rapists and murderers. It's an utterly disgusting thing to accuse someone off and it says way way more about you when you do. You just got done saying October 7th was just another day... You get precisely the criticism you deserve for the stupid shit you say. 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Too bad your position is why this will persist into the indefinite future. Our position is to wipe out and destroy Hamas. Yours is to leave them in power and let them keep doing what they did on the 7th over and over again. Quote
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 16 minutes ago, User said: Non-Sequitor Why? 17 minutes ago, User said: You just got done saying October 7th was just another day... You get precisely the criticism you deserve for the stupid shit you say. You get precisely the same for not addressing the rest of the statement you cut off. 19 minutes ago, User said: Our position is to wipe out and destroy Hamas. I've really got no argument with that notwithstanding your methods and especially the lack of any thought given to how they'll only perpetuate things. 20 minutes ago, User said: Yours is to leave them in power and let them keep doing what they did on the 7th over and over again. No it's not. My position is to establish a strong international peace keeping force to keep Israelis and Palestinians seperate from each other - until such time as they can cool off enough that secular lefties can emerge again and negotiate a peaceful solution to this disaster. Yours is to create the next Hamas by maintaining the conditions in which they can thrive. Stands to reason, you've been supporting the existing one for so long. You religious conservatives were made for each other, like peas and carrots. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
taxme Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 (edited) On 5/23/2025 at 8:27 AM, blackbird said: PM Carney and the Liberals demands on Israel to stop fighting Hamas and demanding a two-state solution 7is the same as the terrorist's comment that killed two Jews Washington the other day saying "free Palestine". The PMs of the UK, Canada and several other countries are now in effect backing the continued existence of Hamas in Gaza. These armchair critics don't know anything about the situation in the middle east and how Israel's enemies want to see Israel eliminated. "For these neo-Nazis, ‘Free Palestine’ is simply the modern version of ‘Heil Hitler,’” Netanyahu said, adding that the shooter “wanted to kill Jews—nothing more." Jews have a 2,000 year history of being the victims of anti-Semitism in Europe and the world. They know what is going on in the middle east. They also know that a so-called two state solution is nothing more than a scheme to destroy Israel because the Palestinians have no interest in peace and no interest in allowing Israel to exist. Netanyahu: “‘Free Palestine’ is simply the modern version of ‘Heil Hitler” Over 40,000 Palestinians have been murdered by Israel and we should all feel sorry for two Jews that were murdered. I have no dog in this race but i sure would like to see all the Arab countries get together and fight against the Jews and go at it once and for all and may the best killer win. This war between the Arabs and the Jews needs to come to an end one way or another. 😇 Edited June 3 by taxme Quote
CdnFox Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 44 minutes ago, eyeball said: We'll just have to agree to disagree. Too bad your position is why this will persist into the indefinite future. The opposite is true. If everyone looked at things the way I do there wouldn't have been this conflict. You are the one that are insisting that these conflicts must continue and are completely justified because of the past. Nobody can change the past so based on your worldview these conflicts must continue indefinitely. My worldview is that we have our choices to make today, and the choices that a person has to make are not forced on them by the past. And that today you can decide that what's important to you is to live in peace and prosper. And that if you make a decision on October 7th, that is your decision and that decision could be peace or it could be violence and if you choose violence you have to accept the result. You are the warmonger here. You are the one saying that they are justified in their actions based on the past. That is absolutely not true and believing in that only breeds conflict war and death. Which you claim to be against and yet support rapidly. The children dying in Gaza today are dying because people think like you Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
User Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Why? Your comment had nothing to do with mine. 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: I've really got no argument with that notwithstanding your methods and especially the lack of any thought given to how they'll only perpetuate things. Right... you support no methods that would destroy Hamas, because as soon as one kid is hurt by a bomb you will accuse everyone involved of a war crime and how wrong and awful it is. Thus, Hamas stays in power, and Hamas keeps killing Israelis. 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: No it's not. My position is to establish a strong international peace keeping force to keep Israelis and Palestinians seperate from each other - until such time as they can cool off enough that secular lefties can emerge again and negotiate a peaceful solution to this disaster. No such thing exists. You might as well wish for Aliens to invade. So, Hamas stays in power and they keep killing and raping. Just like you want. Quote
taxme Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 2 hours ago, User said: What happened on October 7th was not just another day. It was the single largest loss of life since Israel was founded and largest terror attack in Israel's history. Hardly just another day. It is you saying crap like this that leads to me accurately saying you don't care, you support Hamas, and would just as soon see this continue to happen to Israel over and over and over again as you offer no other solutions for them other than their ceasing to exist. I need more proof as to whether there was a real massacre committed on October 7th in Israel. Personally, i do not believe that there was a real massacre committed at all in Israel. The story as told was probably just another excuse for Israel to be able to bomb the hell out of the Palestinians. I do not believe anything that comes out of Israel. Just my opinion of course. Quote
User Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 1 minute ago, taxme said: I need more proof as to whether there was a real massacre committed on October 7th in Israel. Personally, i do not believe that there was a real massacre committed at all in Israel. The story as told was probably just another excuse for Israel to be able to bomb the hell out of the Palestinians. I do not believe anything that comes out of Israel. Just my opinion of course. Yeah, I bet you are still waiting on more proof we landed on the Moon and the Earth is round too. Give me a break with this stupidity. Quote
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 5 minutes ago, User said: Your comment had nothing to do with mine. Obviously I disagree. 7 minutes ago, User said: Right... you support no methods that would destroy Hamas, because as soon as one kid is hurt by a bomb you will accuse everyone involved of a war crime and how wrong and awful it is. I said I support peace keepers, elections, time to heal, acknowledgement and reconciliation. I'll keep on accusing Israel of war crimes if they insist on continuing their bombardment and starvation of little kids. 12 minutes ago, User said: Thus, Hamas stays in power, and Hamas keeps killing Israelis. Or someone like and possibly even worse than Hamas if Israel is allowed to continue pursuing it's course of actions against Palestinians. By all means Israel should still be free and encouraged to try and prosecute war criminals - everyone should retain that right following a peace settlement. 17 minutes ago, User said: No such thing exists. You might as well wish for Aliens to invade. Aliens work for me too. 18 minutes ago, User said: So, Hamas stays in power and they keep killing and raping. Just like you want. Fùck off. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Fùck off. That is what you want. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 27 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You are the one that are insisting that these conflicts must continue Will continue not must continue. Please learn to read or fùck off. Thx. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 10 minutes ago, User said: That is what you want. Yes please. Hopefully the door hits you in the ass on your way out. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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