PM Carney's chant of stop the war in Gaza is saying let Hamas carry on its attacks on Israel

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12 minutes ago, User said:

No, they are not actively killing people to steal their land. What an absurdly outlandish simpleton summation of events. 

Israel announces major expansion of settlements in occupied West Bank

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1j5954edlno

Mostly to legalize lands stolen, often violently, some time ago. Along with new ones.

Would be settlers have been eyeing up Gaza too. Probably throwing BBQ parties in anticipation.

[User]

18 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Read about the West Bank. 

You mean, the Jordan-ruled West Bank that was conquered during the war they lost?

 

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Would be settlers have been eyeing up Gaza too. Probably throwing BBQ parties in anticipation.

Maybe next time the Palestinians will try peace instead. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The statements of Israel’s current government do not support your claims. They have no intention, none, of ever allowing a Palestinian state.

Bullshit.  As late as 2014 they were openly negotiating for that precisely. Until the Authority decided to back hamas. 

If the people threw out the terrorists and hamas this would be over.  Of course they're not interested while palestinians are demanding that the jews be killed 'from the river to the sea'.  The palestinians right now don't want peace, and the israeli gov't's position reflects that. 

But if they did they'd get it. Isreal would be put into gas chambers if they gave up their guns.. If they were lucky.

The Palestinians are the only thing that keeps the violence going. 

 

57 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Israel announces major expansion of settlements in occupied West Bank

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1j5954edlno

Mostly to legalize lands stolen, often violently, some time ago. Along with new ones.

 

In response to Palestinian aggression and threats. 

Palestine chooses this. Nobody chooses it for them. 

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

In response to Palestinian aggression and threats. 

Palestine chooses this. Nobody chooses it for them. 

Palestinians simply choose resistance, it's what you'd do if you be were being forced by out of your home at gunpoint.

Something we helped forced them to endure.

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Palestinians simply choose resistance, it's what you'd do if you be were being forced by out of your home at gunpoint.

Something we helped forced them to endure.

Here you go again, defending Hamas, justifying what they did, supporting their rape, torture, murder and hostage taking 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Palestinians simply choose resistance, it's what you'd do if you be were being forced by out of your home at gunpoint.

Actually my forefathers were caught up in the Russian Revolution and when they lost their place and were forced off their land they quite wisely found a new home and went and lived in peace and prospered.

I could understand a limited amount of resistance in 1948 but no, they're not resisting invasion at this point. At this point they're choosing war and they're choosing to have violence and they're choosing to get killed.

They could choose Prosperity. They could choose to have stable lives, good relations with Israel, build a future for themselves and their children. They can even live within Israel if they choose and serving their government which many do.

 

So no. The whole I am resisting thing went out the window 80 years ago. At this point they're just terrorists who are so addicted to violence that they prefer it over a peaceful and happy life and they are reaping the rewards. And they deserve it

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12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So no. The whole I am resisting thing went out the window 80 years ago. At this point they're just terrorists who are so addicted to violence that they prefer it over a peaceful and happy life and they are reaping the rewards. And they deserve it

So little starving kids are terrorists who've got it coming to them.

Whatever you say chief.

[User]

On 5/30/2025 at 12:15 PM, eyeball said:

So little starving kids are terrorists who've got it coming to them.

Whatever you say chief.

Is it the little starving kids who are doing the rape, murder, torture, and hostage taking you call "resisting?"

 

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On 5/30/2025 at 1:15 PM, eyeball said:

So little starving kids are terrorists who've got it coming to them.

Whatever you say chief.

The footage shows Hamas first taking over the trucks, including attacking the drivers. Then the trucks are driven through Rafah with armed terrorists riding on them. If any citizen approaches the trucks, they are immediately fired upon, Almog reported. Gunshots can be heard in the background of the footage.

 

Humanitarian aid, meant to prevent starvation among Gazans, has instead become a lifeline for Hamas and its continued control of the Strip.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/10/world-news/hamas-steals-humanitarian-aid-trucks-from-gaza-strip/

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23 minutes ago, User said:

Is it the little starving kids who are doing the rape, murder, torture, and hostage taking you call "resisting?"

No but that doesn't stop you people from punishing them for it.

They'll be the ones in doing the resisting in the future.

Then you can kill their kids.

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6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No but that doesn't stop you people from punishing them for it.

They'll be the ones in doing the resisting in the future.

Then you can kill their kids.

The only people "punishing" anyone in Gaza is Hamas punishing their own people. 

As long as there are enough people like you around to encourage and cheer them on in their "resistance," I bet they will resort to terrorism. That is certainly what Hamas teaches them. 

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2 minutes ago, User said:

As long as there are enough people like you around to encourage and cheer them on in their "resistance," I bet they will resort to terrorism. That is certainly what Hamas teaches them. 

There will always be more support for resistance than oppression - it's just human nature.

[User]

36 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There will always be more support for resistance than oppression - it's just human nature.

Apparently not. Figuring that resistance never seems to go against Hamas, which is oppressing them... 

[CdnFox]

On 5/30/2025 at 10:15 AM, eyeball said:

So little starving kids are terrorists who've got it coming to them.

 

Well that's a decision for their parents to make. They certainly seem to think so

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As long as war and the resulting flood of humanitarian aid is so profitable for so many (especially at the top), the carnage is never going to end, or all the remaining hostages released. So kids starve while others become multi-billionaires.  And Gaza gets leveled to parking lot status.

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4 hours ago, User said:

Apparently not. Figuring that resistance never seems to go against Hamas, which is oppressing them... 

Yes well, I suppose your head would explode at the suggestion we arm Palestinians so they have a better chance at getting rid of Hamas. And I suspect you'd feel the same way about sponsoring an election.

[Army Guy]

On 5/29/2025 at 7:52 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:

The statements of Israel’s current government do not support your claims. They have no intention, none, of ever allowing a Palestinian state. Read those statements. 

In the West Bank, farmers are bring driven from their land as we debate and this has been going on for decades. 
 

 

 

You need to read a little more about the West Bank and what has been going on there since 1967. 

How do you explain Israel's complete withdrawal from the Gaza strip, all israelis lands within the city were given back to the Palestinian people. graveyards dug up, and returned to israelis lands, massive greenhouses used for crops the palestinians tore them down,  infrastructure for water and sewage torn up to make rockets, massive tunnel complexes dug to harbor terrorists that launch missiles into Israel, under schools and hospitals ....They did this on their own accord, this was their choice....

They freely elected a terrorist government, which took the keys to gaza, it stole or redistributed funding given to them to rebuild and used it to purchase weapons to fight israel with....they had their chance at peace, and instead used that to continue their fight with Israel...Israel has given Palestinian many chances at peace but there is to much hatred on both sides....Look at Gaza right now, nothing more than rubble, it use to be beautiful tourist city...now it filled with death and destruction...That's what happens when you give them autonomy over themselves... 

[Army Guy]

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes well, I suppose your head would explode at the suggestion we arm Palestinians so they have a better chance at getting rid of Hamas. And I suspect you'd feel the same way about sponsoring an election.

Palestinians are not going to rise up and take on Hamas even if you armed them....Palestinians are Hamas and if not Hamas then some other terrorist group...like Fatah , PLO, or some other splinter group, all have the same moto the destruction of Israel....for them there is no two state solution, only one state Palestine which includes all of Israel..even if you removed Israel they would fight each other. there is never going to be peace with these guys that delusional thinking....

[Army Guy]

On 5/30/2025 at 2:15 PM, eyeball said:

So little starving kids are terrorists who've got it coming to them.

Whatever you say chief.

WTF are you going on about.....Starving children, show me pictures of starving children...they may be hungry but starving not even close....see Somalia for examples of starving people...take a close look at any picture in Gaza they all have clean cloths, washed, looked after, lots of activity, Apparently many people including the western media would not know starving if it bite you in the ass.

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Yes well, I suppose your head would explode at the suggestion we arm Palestinians so they have a better chance at getting rid of Hamas. And I suspect you'd feel the same way about sponsoring an election.

Is this a joke?

Israel offered anyone 5 million dollars and free passage out of Gaza for the safe return of a hostage. 

But sure, there is some guerrilla force just waiting and chomping at the bit to fight Hamas if only someone would arm them. 

 

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5 hours ago, Army Guy said:

WTF are you going on about.....Starving children, show me pictures of starving children...they may be hungry but starving not even close.......see Somalia for examples of starving people.

Are these your precious Geneva Convention standard for victims of famine as a weapon now?

5 hours ago, Army Guy said:

..take a close look at any picture in Gaza they all have clean cloths, washed, looked after, lots of activity,

You could probably say the same thing about lots of kids in the Warsaw Ghetto. Looked after as best as possible by mothers and fathers until the end.

Speaking of which...

Dozens of Palestinians massacred at US-Israel backed food distribution sites

Jerusalem - Dozens of Palestinians were killed and hundreds more injured today, 1 June, as they waited for food at the newly created Gaza Humanitarian Foundation distribution centres in Rafah and close to the Netzarim Corridor, according to the Ministry of Health. Médecins Sans Frontières/Doctors Without Borders (MSF) teams joined the mass casualty response in Nasser hospital, Khan Younis. Patients told MSF they were shot from all sides by drones, helicopters, boats, tanks and Israeli soldiers on the ground.

https://www.msf.org/dozens-palestinians-massacred-us-israel-backed-food-distribution-sites

And just for the record...

 

Edited 5 hours ago by eyeball

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Are these your precious Geneva Convention standard for victims of famine as a weapon now?

 

They can surrender any time 

And it's Hamas that denies them food. 

Deadly break-in at UN warehouse as aid trickles into Gaza | Reuters

Food trucks in Gaza raided, underscoring aid distribution problems

Hamas can surrender and give up the war they started at any time. 

If these people choose to die rather than deal with hamas that's a choice they will have to not live with 

 

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4 hours ago, User said:

Is this a joke?

Israel offered anyone 5 million dollars and free passage out of Gaza for the safe return of a hostage. 

But sure, there is some guerrilla force just waiting and chomping at the bit to fight Hamas if only someone would arm them.

So one minute they're victims of Hamas and the next they're supporters.

Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Israel also funded Hamas. But of course they had to protect Hamas from a significant secular left wing opposition to Hamas amongst Palestinians... Israel certainly couldn't risk lefties being in charge of Gaza - that would have been way way worse than anything that happened on Oct 7 By far.

 

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4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So one minute they're victims of Hamas and the next they're supporters.

Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Israel also funded Hamas. But of course they had to protect Hamas from a significant secular left wing opposition to Hamas amongst Palestinians... Israel certainly couldn't risk lefties being in charge of Gaza - that would have been way way worse than anything that happened on Oct 7 By far.

 

They are victims in as much as you keep trying to make that argument... 

Damnded if they do? No one is damning them if they actually do something to stand up to Hamas or take the money to help return a hostage or otherwise do the right thing. 

Israel also funded Hamas... how? So, now you wanted Israel to go to war against Hamas sooner? Israel did everything they could to try to keep status quo peace because people like you oppose them ever doing anything otherwise. 

You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth now. 

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9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And it's Hamas that denies them food. 

Right, Israel says Hamas will divert the humanitarian aid to its fighters unless the IDF is in charge of its distribution. Which begs the question, is Israel implying Hamas is still so huge it needs all the food for itself?

Just now, User said:

Israel also funded Hamas... how?

With money, how the fùck do you think they did it?