Aristides Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 South Korea makes unsolicited proposal Delivery times far in advance of anything we could buy from the US or Europe. The KSS III is an interesting submarine. A diesel electric sub capable of 20 days submerged and a submerged speed of 20 kts. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 They make good products, for both their navy and army, they even produce the the T-50 jet trainer but i think the navy said they are very interested in the Type 212 CD....who knows now what the liberals will pick for a sub....that being said the french are also pushing there Nuk design Saffron.....which is most likely the only nuk sub with a short build time....Uk/ US are having issues , or working on the next gen sub... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212CD_submarine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAI_T-50_Golden_Eagle You should take a look at the new destroyer,and guess what it costs....currently we could get almost 6 plus of them for the same price as our frigates, extremely short building times, including American weapon systems. with advanced Korean systems... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sejong_the_Great-class_destroyer or the next generation which is more expensive , and relys less on American weapons' systems... https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/02/the-next-phase-of-south-koreas-kddx-destroyer-program/ On the army side....i think Germany has that all sown up, with the Leopard, german MRLS, PH-2000, TWO kinds of IFV vehs...and all the air defense we need...Sweden also has top notch IFV, and the world best in class wheel arty... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
herbie Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 We'd be stupid not to give their stuff a look. Tack that on to the bullshit like the spare parts we buy for F35s aren't actually ours until their put on the place - the USA can decide they're needed somewhere else and take them from here to some other country. They did exactly that to Denmark (who they're also f*cking over) by taking parts out of Denmark and sending them to Israel for their F36s. Ignoring Denmark's no arms to Israel policy. We should be looking at Gripens with RollsRoyce engines to avoid shitf*ckery (thxs Aussies for the most fitting word) like this. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 On 5/5/2025 at 9:25 PM, herbie said: We'd be stupid not to give their stuff a look. Tack that on to the bullshit like the spare parts we buy for F35s aren't actually ours until their put on the place - the USA can decide they're needed somewhere else and take them from here to some other country. They did exactly that to Denmark (who they're also f*cking over) by taking parts out of Denmark and sending them to Israel for their F36s. Ignoring Denmark's no arms to Israel policy. We should be looking at Gripens with RollsRoyce engines to avoid shitf*ckery (thxs Aussies for the most fitting word) like this. Your full of shit, US can not pull spare parts out of some other nations inventory...they can ask to redirect parts but it is up to host nation who has paid for them.... Grippens....are gen 4 aircraft, might as well buy F-18 e/f if thats the route your going....The air force spent billions of dollars in testing and grippens place a distance 4th our of 5 Aircraft, one justin disqualified, two quit, leaving f-35 and gripen... F-35 was chosen by our air force for good reason....keeping the grippen for 40 years in not an option, F-35 is a gen 5 fighter and cheapest out there, with much more growth potential....want to buy european go with the euro fighter or french fighter....at much more cost... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Aristides Posted Friday at 03:35 PM Author Report Posted Friday at 03:35 PM Going with the Gripen might only make sense if we skipped Gen 5 fighters entirely and used it as a bridge to 6th gen fighters which will be coming out around the middle of the next decade. Quote
Aristides Posted Friday at 08:02 PM Author Report Posted Friday at 08:02 PM Should we get involved in this? Formerly the Tempest Project Quote
August1991 Posted Sunday at 04:29 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:29 AM On 5/5/2025 at 5:49 PM, Army Guy said: They make good products, for both their navy and army, they even produce the the T-50 jet trainer but i think the navy said they are very interested in the Type 212 CD....who knows ..... Army Guy knows more about this than I do ====== I prefer a world where world powers (politicians) get along. Quote
Army Guy Posted Sunday at 04:45 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:45 AM On 5/9/2025 at 12:35 PM, Aristides said: Going with the Gripen might only make sense if we skipped Gen 5 fighters entirely and used it as a bridge to 6th gen fighters which will be coming out around the middle of the next decade. Gen 6 aircraft are already being tested and in the near future will be being produced in low quantities' making anything in the air gen 4 and below obsolete...at least with a gen 5 like the F-35 it is still viable fighter... that is or can be still upgraded...F-35 is already being upgraded very soon that will make the first production aircraft obsolete....Tech is growing pretty fast....Combine this with Canada's long history of flying stuff for 40 plus years....Gen 5 is the only way to go... Gen 6 fighter are going to be very expensive....American version i think was quoted at over 300 mill per copy....mostly it won't be for export any ways....UK/ Japans tempest is supposedly cheaper, closer to 200 mil a copy so far but is a few years behind the Americans...I think that's the project we should be looking into, just for it's R&D and tech sharing aspects, could we afford these well Canadians freaked out at the price of the F-35....which is only 80 plus mil a copy... The Air Force has also previously laid out a plan to buy around 200 of the new NGAD jets, in line with replacing the similarly-sized F-22 fleet. Kendall has said in the past that each one of the aircraft could cost three times the average unit price of an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, or upwards of $300 million based on publicly available information. https://www.twz.com/air/20-billion-price-tag-to-complete-development-of-usafs-next-generation-fighter Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
WestCanMan Posted Sunday at 05:21 AM Report Posted Sunday at 05:21 AM (edited) 35 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Canadians freaked out at the price of the F-35....which is only 80 plus mil a copy... If we just went 1 year without giving away $8B in foreign aid (a low year by Cdn standards) we could buy 100 of them. But somewhere out there is a hostile 3rd-world country that's in danger of losing some coastline due to AGW that needs our money instead. Edited Sunday at 05:21 AM by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
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