CdnFox Posted Sunday at 05:28 AM Report Posted Sunday at 05:28 AM 1 hour ago, August1991 said: I wuz wrong. This guy Poilievre is like Nixon and Clinton - the Comeback Kid. ==== He never went away. That was just in your head. The CPC does not get rid of people just because they lose. He ran a good campaign and turned in a very solid performance, he's facing the caucus and being contrite and accepting he did do some things wrong, he's obviously massively improved the size of the base, and he faced an unbeatable circumstance. He'll do even better next time and the left probably won't have the boogieman of trump to hide behind. It would be insane to get rid of him. You and the left Wingers Were the only ones who thought he should go which is another perfect reason not to Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
TreeBeard Posted Sunday at 06:02 AM Report Posted Sunday at 06:02 AM 53 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: PP is very popular with CPC supporters. Pretty good chance he hangs on to the leadership. Why don’t they ever want to elect a government? I think PP is really happy to be in opposition. Quote
August1991 Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ... The CPC does not get rid of people just because they lose. ..... Uh, they do. Federal Liberals do too. What happened to Ignatieff? Dion? Quote
CdnFox Posted Sunday at 08:27 AM Report Posted Sunday at 08:27 AM 2 hours ago, August1991 said: Uh, they do. No they don't. You aren't one so you wouldn't know. You're used to the liberals who do so you think everyone does but no. In fact we don't get rid of many people at all. Virtually all of our leaders have lost at least one election even though they went on in some cases to win elections and majorities. Yet only 50% were asked to leave. And it wasn't because they lost Quote Federal Liberals do too. What happened to Ignatieff? Dion? Federal liberals absolutely Kick out anyone who loses an election. They have said so verbally, Chretien commented on it. But conservatives don't. If we see someone made a good effort and had a good showing there's a reason why they fell short, and we have reason to believe they will learn from their lessons and do better next time then we keep them. That's the way it is. Harper lost, convinced everyone he knew what he did wrong and that he was sorry, asked for another chance and took a vote, they kept him on and he went on to win. Scheer ran a disastrous campaign, probably one of the worst I've ever seen in my life, and then tried to pass it off as having done great and that he was going to stay on no matter what. Erin Ran as a true blue conservative during the leadership, promise to get rid of the carbon tax. Immediately bent that promise to hell, then put forward a campaign that could have come out of Justin Trudeau's pocket, through gun owners under the bus and then lost. He also said he would stay on no matter what anybody said. He learned the hard way that that's not how it works. He's gone Pee pee put in an excellent performance, boosted the base, did better than any other leader it's done in ages, and lost because of an absolute freak one in a million lifetime circumstance that probably won't happen again. He's begun to show a little humility, he acknowledges he made mistakes, he will still have to go ask everyone for their permission to proceed or face a leadership vote and he will stay on and probably go on to win Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
August1991 Posted Sunday at 08:45 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 08:45 AM 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ... Pee pee put in an excellent performance, boosted the base, did better than any other leader it's done in ages, and lost ... True. He got over 40% But he didn't win. More important, Poilievre didn't win like Mulroney in 1988. A fight for Canada. ===== Mulroney and Trudeau Snr had a passion for Canada. Carney doesn't. Quote
CdnFox Posted Sunday at 08:59 AM Report Posted Sunday at 08:59 AM 6 minutes ago, August1991 said: True. He got over 40% But he didn't win. But he showed that he could. And he's giving reason to believe he would do better next time. And there's a lot of reason to believe that the liberals won't do as well next time. Quote More important, Poilievre didn't win like Mulroney in 1988. A fight for Canada. Sometimes that happens Quote Mulroney and Trudeau Snr had a passion for Canada. That is true. Love them or hate them they had feelings about Canada that were strong Quote Carney doesn't. That is also true. He is here to line his pockets Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
August1991 Posted Sunday at 09:09 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 09:09 AM 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: .... That is true. Love them or hate them they had feelings about Canada that were strong ..... Trudeau Snr retired to Montreal in 1984, bought a place, kept a law office, and walked to work. He stayed in Canada. ===== Not sure about the others Quote
CdnFox Posted Sunday at 10:26 AM Report Posted Sunday at 10:26 AM 1 hour ago, August1991 said: Trudeau Snr retired to Montreal in 1984, bought a place, kept a law office, and walked to work. He stayed in Canada. ===== Not sure about the others Mulroney served on the boards of many international companies but I believe he's stayed in Canada. Christian remained in Canada of course. Harper still lives in Alberta. Justin is still here for now Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
August1991 Posted Sunday at 10:40 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 10:40 AM 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: Mulroney served on the boards of many international companies but I believe he's stayed in Canada. Christian remained in Canada of course. Harper still lives in Alberta. Justin is still here for now Mulroney is dead. Chretien lives mostly in Florida, like Mulroney while alive. Harper, dunno. Trudeau Snr lived in Montreal until his death. He walked to work. Like me. ==== Trudeau Snr famously said that if not a Quebecer, he would choose to be one. I plan to retire in Limoilou. Quote
August1991 Posted Sunday at 10:43 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 10:43 AM Where is Paul Martin? Florida? Quote
ExFlyer Posted Sunday at 12:37 PM Report Posted Sunday at 12:37 PM 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: He'll still get his pension. I . Nope, he did not get his 6 years (unless Carney delays the by election to enable him to gain the 6 years). Same reason jagmeet delayed in bringing down the house. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted Sunday at 12:40 PM Report Posted Sunday at 12:40 PM 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: WoW, what a witty response! ... Oh look, a leftie is losing an argument a. Oh look, leftie is happy because he won the election and confux is making excuses because he lost. Try as you might, you are a loser, just like your political party LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Moonbox Posted Sunday at 02:24 PM Report Posted Sunday at 02:24 PM 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: Awww look, you're having seizures again. Sorry i forgot that the truth is to you like flashing lights are to epileptics Spastic is a seizure? Okay. Well that explains a lot about you. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Barquentine Posted Sunday at 02:40 PM Report Posted Sunday at 02:40 PM 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: The CPC does not get rid of people just because they lose. BBC Dec 12 2019 "Canada's Conservative leader Andrew Scheer is stepping down after facing criticism for failing to oust Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in October's election." BBC Feb 2 2022 "Canada's Conservative MPs have voted to oust Erin O'Toole as party leader after only 18 months in the job. On Wednesday, 73 of the 118 Conservative parliamentarians voted to replace the man who led the party to defeat in last year's election." Wikipedia "Diefenbaker stayed on as party leader, becoming Opposition leader, but his second loss at the polls prompted opponents within the party to force him to a leadership convention in 1967. Diefenbaker stood for re-election as party leader at the last moment, but attracted only minimal support and withdrew." Thought you knew a bit about politics. Every party does this, here, Britain, and elsewhere. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted Sunday at 03:06 PM Report Posted Sunday at 03:06 PM 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: He never went away. That was just in your head. The CPC does not get rid of people just because they lose. .... WTF kind of BS lie is that??? Harper lost...where is he?? Where did O'Foole go after he lost??? Oh yeah, back bench on the losing side.Where did Scheer go after he lost?? Oh yeah on the back bench on the losing side beside O'Foole. LOL Now PP loses and they are going to scapegoat a MP that has been through 3 elections and wins by huge majority to get PP in again?? I truly hope the people of Battle River-Crowfoot will see that parachuting PP into the riding is not going to help them in any but only be a door for PP into parliament. They are sacrificial for the conservatives. The party does not care about them or the riding, just as long as PP gets in. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted Sunday at 07:28 PM Report Posted Sunday at 07:28 PM 7 hours ago, August1991 said: Where is Paul Martin? Florida? I have no idea. But it would please me to think that he's out of the country Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Moonbox Posted Sunday at 08:04 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:04 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Thought you knew a bit about politics. Once again, muppet's bullshitting is foiled by reality and 10 seconds of Google Searching. 🤣 Edited Sunday at 08:04 PM by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted Sunday at 08:29 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:29 PM 7 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Nope, he did not get his 6 years (unless Carney delays the by election to enable him to gain the 6 years). Same reason jagmeet delayed in bringing down the house. Ah, so what you're saying is you can't read. Fair enough. 7 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Oh look, leftie is happy because he won the election Well that's the funny thing, we would expect the lefty to be happy because he won the election but in reality the lefty seems to be extremely upset and spends his time crying and whining into others. You seem to be more upset about the fact that we're okay with it then you are happy about the fact that you won. I guess to you your hatred of others it's more important than your political leanings so the fact that we're not deeply upset bothers you more than your win gives you pleasure. Honestly that says a lot about you and none of it's good Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted Sunday at 08:37 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:37 PM While Poilievre was travelling all across the country, visiting probably 300+ ridings, his opponent was campaigning in his riding that whole time Poilievre's riding is deep inside of Ontario, Ottawa no less, which is by far majority Libt4rd The Premier of Ontario is a pseudo-conservative (aka traitor to his party and his country) who supported China's Commey The CBC just got another billion-dollar windfall from the federal gov't, so the whole time PP was out working for this country, the CBC was pummelling his constituents with pro-LPOC propaganda Ask yourself: if the CBC was working against the Commey 24/7, and he was running in Edm, would Commey have won? The CBC could have been talking about Commie's lies 24/7 instead of covering them up, as they did with his lie about the Trump phone call. And the Trump/Commie relationship was central to this election... Canadians were told "Commey is the guy to deal with Trump", and "when Trump talks to Commey on the phone there's no mention of "the 51st state", etc... CBC knew that was a lie while they were saying it... What if CBC never told the lie about Trump respecting Commey on the phone? Would that have made a difference, August? What if CBC was saying "Poilievre is the best guy for dealing with Trump" instead? What then, August? FYI it's just a narrative to say that the Commey would have been better at dealing with Trump - that's a purely subjective statement to be thrown down in such a declarative form. You are so immersed within the propaganda bubble that you don't even notice it. @August1991 Don't run away, old chap. You started this topic, face the music. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
ExFlyer Posted Sunday at 08:38 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:38 PM 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Ah, so what you're saying is ... That PP could not even hold his own seat after 20 years and he has to steal it from a conservative party loyalist... Exactly what a loser will do and you should know, you are a loser too LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted Sunday at 08:44 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:44 PM 26 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Once again, muppet's bullshitting is foiled by reality and 10 seconds of Google Searching. 🤣 Once again you're so butt hurt over losing an argument that you're chasing me around crying 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: That PP could not even hold his own seat after 20 years and he has to steal it from a conservative party loyalist... Exactly what a loser will do and you should know, you are a loser too LOL Well they did redraw the riding this time. It's not the same riding that it was for those 20 year. LOL, notice ou didn't mention that Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted Sunday at 08:48 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:48 PM 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: That PP could not even hold his own seat after 20 years and he has to steal it from a conservative party loyalist... Exactly what a loser will do and you should know, you are a loser too LOL You cheered when our gov't was forcing young adults to take an experimental drug, even after it was known to seriously harm them. Who the hell do you think you are to call someone else a loser? You're at the absolute bottom of the barrel, you greasy piece of sh1t. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
ExFlyer Posted Sunday at 08:54 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:54 PM 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ... Well they did redraw the riding this time. It's not the same riding that it was for those 20 year. ... More excuses from the loser. I know you can keep on keeping on with excuses but..in the end, your team sucked and lost LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted Sunday at 08:55 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:55 PM 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: WTF kind of BS lie is that??? IT's called "Truth". I'm not shocked you didn't recognize it Quote Harper lost...where is he?? He resigned. that was his choice. He also lost the first time, and he was prime minister for 10 years after that. Opsie! Forgot that didn't you Quote Where did O'Foole go after he lost??? Same place scheer did, but not because he lost. Quote Now PP loses and they are going to scapegoat a MP that has been through 3 elections and wins by huge majority to get PP in again?? No, i don't think you know what "Scapegoat" means. Quote I truly hope the people of Battle River-Crowfoot will see that parachuting PP into the riding is not going to help them in any but only be a door for PP into parliament. Umm.... being the riding that put the PM into office again is actually quite a bit Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted Sunday at 08:55 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:55 PM 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You cheered ... Who the hell do you think you are to call someone else a loser? .. I am the guy that keeps on reminding you that PP lost his seat and the election... You are the guy coming up with excuses but failing to realize it makes not matter....you still lost LOL Woo Hoo, Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
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