Trump wants to bypass immigration courts. Experts warn it's a 'slippery slope.'

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Wriggle Wriggle. Squirm Squirm.

Is that your weasel way of admitting that you severely dishonestly presented the information?   LOLOL

TRUMP IS BANNING HABEUS CORPUS!!!!

(reality: trump may ask congress to suspend it in accordance with the constitution in a specific circumstance). 

For people like you, the truth is never enough. You've always got to add the lies and backspin. 

[User]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Wriggle Wriggle. Squirm Squirm. Some things never change.

Says the guy that has avoided responding to my points to you how many times in this thread now?

[Aristides]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Is that your weasel way of admitting that you severely dishonestly presented the information?   LOLOL

TRUMP IS BANNING HABEUS CORPUS!!!!

(reality: trump may ask congress to suspend it in accordance with the constitution in a specific circumstance). 

For people like you, the truth is never enough. You've always got to add the lies and backspin. 

One thing is for sure, you can't read.

[CdnFox]

37 minutes ago, Aristides said:

One thing is for sure, you can't read.

One thing is for sure, when you have your stupidity pointed out you're a big fan of deflection and projection.

 

[Nationalist]

18 hours ago, robosmith said:

The Constitution and the SCOTUS says Garcia has the right to challenge his detention IN COURT.

A court has already given him an order protecting him from deportation. Duh

That's why Trump's lawyer told the court that deporting him was an administrative error.

You're welcome, ignoramus.

He's an enemy of your nation and you want him back. Unbelievable. Wha's-a matter Tweenkie-Poo? Does it pain you to watch your slaves being turfed?

[Nationalist]

19 hours ago, Aristides said:

Wriggle Wriggle. Squirm Squirm. Some things never change. They are obviously putting it out there to gauge the reaction to give them an indication whether they can get away with it. 

Trump can't build his own gulags so he is paying other countries to use theirs. 

Which is exactly what illegal alien criminals and terrorists deserve.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

He's an enemy of your nation and you want him back. Unbelievable. Wha's-a matter Tweenkie-Poo? Does it pain you to watch your slaves being turfed?

You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. LMAO

What part of NO CONVICTIONS do you not understand?

[User]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. LMAO

What part of NO CONVICTIONS do you not understand?

What part of he IS NOT AMERICAN and was here ILLEGALLY do you not understand?

 

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, User said:

What part of he IS NOT AMERICAN and was here ILLEGALLY do you not understand?

 

This is the thing that the left seems to be skipping over that is worth repeating several times until they get it.

Deportation is not a punishment. They're not being banished, they're being removed from the country where they were illegally present This is not a punitive measure, nobody is saying that such and such must be punished, deport them! They just don't belong here in the first place.

It's like asking a trespasser to leave your property. Asking them to leave isn't the punishment, they just don't have a lawful right to be there and you're asking them to correct that.

When we talk about trials and so on and so forth usually we're discussing someone's punishment. If we can prove a crime then we're allowed to punish them but you're not allowed to punish them until you prove the crime

But this isn't a punishment. There is no need to prove a crime. If they cannot demonstrate lawful reason to be within the country then they are simply removed and that is not inappropriate. 

If they feel that they have been removed unfairly they can always file outside of the country to the appropriate agencies for remedy. But you don't need a trial or to prove that a crime has taken place in order to remove someone from a place that they have no lawful right to be

[User]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

This is the thing that the left seems to be skipping over that is worth repeating several times until they get it.

What is worse is that some of them seem to thing and want for him to come back and live life with his family as an American, like some kind of fairy tale ending or something. 

The outcome of this doesn't change. He is going back to El Salvador. Even the folks screaming about due process... so, what, he comes back, remains detained until he has his order revoked saying he can't be deported to El Salvador because it is safe to go home. 

Like... the outcome is going to be the same here no matter what, so what is the point now? 
 

 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. LMAO

What part of NO CONVICTIONS do you not understand?

What part of YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR CITIZENSHIP REVOKED FOR SUPPORTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION do you not understand? 

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, User said:

What is worse is that some of them seem to thing and want for him to come back and live life with his family as an American, like some kind of fairy tale ending or something. 

The outcome of this doesn't change. He is going back to El Salvador. Even the folks screaming about due process... so, what, he comes back, remains detained until he has his order revoked saying he can't be deported to El Salvador because it is safe to go home. 

Like... the outcome is going to be the same here no matter what, so what is the point now? 
 

 

Well exactly. Unless they're going to argue that actually he really is a citizen of the US or that somehow he was in the country 100 percent legally, which nobody is claiming, then there's nothing even to dispute 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. LMAO

What part of NO CONVICTIONS do you not understand?

If the poor criminal wants to challenge the deportation...he can do so from his own country.

[robosmith]

20 hours ago, Nationalist said:

If the poor criminal wants to challenge the deportation...he can do so from his own country.

He has NO CRIMINAL RECORD, LIAR. 

What he has is a protection from deportation order from a US Judge. Duh

And Bukele will not allow him ANY ACCESS because Trump is PAYING HIM NOT TO.

Are you that IGNORANT or just a DESPICABLE INHUMAN BEING?

 

[Nationalist]

33 minutes ago, robosmith said:

He has NO CRIMINAL RECORD, LIAR. 

What he has is a protection from deportation order from a US Judge. Duh

And Bukele will not allow him ANY ACCESS because Trump is PAYING HIM NOT TO.

Are you that IGNORANT or just a DESPICABLE INHUMAN BEING?

 

Uhmmm

"Contrary to the assertions of Garcia’s lawyers (and many in the corporate press) that there’s no evidence he’s a member of MS-13 and that the cops just made it all up, the police affidavit from Garcia’s arrest in March 2019 shows that he was arrested with multiple other confirmed MS-13 gang members, was wearing clothing associated with the gang, and was identified by a confidential police informant as an MS-13 gang member with a rank and a moniker."

https://thefederalist.com/2025/04/17/attorney-general-releases-police-records-detailing-abrego-garcias-criminal-history/

As such...he's a criminal AND a Terrorist.

Now you know...

 

[robosmith]

23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Uhmmm

"Contrary to the assertions of Garcia’s lawyers (and many in the corporate press) that there’s no evidence he’s a member of MS-13 and that the cops just made it all up, the police affidavit from Garcia’s arrest in March 2019 shows that he was arrested with multiple other confirmed MS-13 gang members, was wearing clothing associated with the gang, and was identified by a confidential police informant as an MS-13 gang member with a rank and a moniker."

https://thefederalist.com/2025/04/17/attorney-general-releases-police-records-detailing-abrego-garcias-criminal-history/

As such...he's a criminal AND a Terrorist.

Now you know...

 

Now I know that YOU  BELIEVE in guilt by ALLEGED ASSOCIATION. 🤮

No crime was charged; innocent until PROVEN GULITY. Duh

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Now I know that YOU  BELIEVE in guilt by ALLEGED ASSOCIATION. 🤮

No crime was charged; innocent until PROVEN GULITY. Duh

Bye Bye to rotten apples.

Go join him if you like.

'cause...he ain'-a-comin' back.

[robosmith]

17 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Bye Bye to rotten apples.

Go join him if you like.

'cause...he ain'-a-comin' back.

Too bad you HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, and the SCOTUS has, and will clarify their ruling that he MUST COME BACK, just like the prior Federal judge who issued the protective order that Trump DEFIED.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Too bad you HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, and the SCOTUS has, and will clarify their ruling that he MUST COME BACK, just like the prior Federal judge who issued the protective order that Trump DEFIED.

You may be right, robomarx. It appears the SC is just as desperate as you are to keep illegal aliens here. 

The President may have to declare martial law. It may be the only way to keep you border erasing psychopaths in check. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Uhmmm

Now you know...

The Federalist?

Uhmmm indeed.

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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/

[Deluge]

On 5/8/2025 at 2:37 PM, Hodad said:

1. I know that you're not very bright, but stop and think this through for a minute. How do you imagine, without due process, that one determines the legal status of a person scooped up off the street? 

2. That's why due process exists, to ensure that the law is followed and people aren't subject to the unchecked whims of a dictator.

3. Due process is for everyone, every time. It's essential. 

1. Oh, that's easy. You run through a basic checklist that even a piece of shit lower judge can't get around. You identify their black hair, brown eyes, brown skin, shitty or zero english, and lack of legal documentation. Once ICE agents establish that, they can kick the aliens out of the country. 

2. Wrong. Due process is for citizens and aliens with legal documentation. Everyone else gets deported or sent to El Salvador. 

3. Wrong. Due process is for citizens and aliens with legal documentation. Everyone else gets deported or sent to El Salvador. It's how you keep democrats from browning the country through illegal immigration.  

[Nationalist]

43 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The Federalist?

Uhmmm indeed.

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Overall, we rate The Federalist Questionable and far-Right Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that always favor the right and promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, and numerous failed fact checks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/

Lol...poor Libbie. Facts got ya down Pookie? I bet there's a pill for that.

[Deluge]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

He has NO CRIMINAL RECORD, LIAR. 

What he has is a protection from deportation order from a US Judge. Duh

And Bukele will not allow him ANY ACCESS because Trump is PAYING HIM NOT TO.

Are you that IGNORANT or just a DESPICABLE INHUMAN BEING?

 

Wrong. What he has is a BULLSHIT protection order from a judge. 

Look, I get that you degenerates want 30 million fresh brown new faces to groom for votes, but that isn't going to happen. 

We're going to deport the illegals and let them apply online or from Mexico. That way they won't disappear and/or suck up tax dollars. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...poor Libbie. Facts got ya down Pookie? I bet there's a pill for that.

Poor gnat girl, all she got is insults. LMAO

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Wrong. What he has is a BULLSHIT protection order from a judge. 

You calling a Federal Judge's order bullshit just means YOU'RE LYING.

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Look, I get that you degenerates want 30 million fresh brown new faces to groom for votes, but that isn't going to happen. 

Sure it will, right after Trump exits and all his "orders" are rescinded.

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

We're going to deport the illegals and let them apply online or from Mexico. That way they won't disappear and/or suck up tax dollars. 

YOU'RE not gonna do JACK SHIT. Cause BULL is the only kind of shit you do and you're really bad at it. LMAO