Liberals Will Destroy Canada With UNDRIP

[Zeitgeist]

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7519288
 

Carney will hobble Canada through regulations and kowtowing to activists and global ESG measures.

This is the real Carney, a Net Zero UN stakeholder capitalist.  Expect more controls, destruction of the oil and gas sector, more taxes, and loss of sovereignty to the UN and Davos think tanks.  

Edited Saturday at 12:32 AM by Zeitgeist

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7519288
 

Carney will hobble Canada through regulations and kowtowing to activists and global ESG measures.

This is the real Carney, a Net Zero UN stakeholder capitalist.  Expect more controls, destruction of the oil and gas sector, more taxes, and loss of sovereignty to the UN and Davos think tanks.  

Time to spread the wealth.  Companies are going to need indigenous buy-in.  Share the benefits with them.  Simple. 

[Zeitgeist]

29 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Time to spread the wealth.  Companies are going to need indigenous buy-in.  Share the benefits with them.  Simple. 

No one is saying Indigenous shouldn’t get a cut.  What they shouldn’t have is a veto, especially when most Indigenous want the economic development.

It looks like Carney is talking out of both sides of his mouth to get elected.  He’s handicapping the country to score political points.  It’s more Trudeau virtue signaling. No thanks.  

Edited Saturday at 03:01 AM by Zeitgeist

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7519288
 

Carney will hobble Canada through regulations and kowtowing to activists and global ESG measures.

This is the real Carney, a Net Zero UN stakeholder capitalist.  Expect more controls, destruction of the oil and gas sector, more taxes, and loss of sovereignty to the UN and Davos think tanks.  

What about "elbows up"?

Did he really mean "tits-down, ass-up"?

It goes right along with Carney's "opposite of what I say" theme.

[WestCanMan]

31 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Time to spread the wealth.  Companies are going to need indigenous buy-in.  Share the benefits with them.  Simple. 

That was never a problem.

If it was then we wouldn't have had the support of 20/20 elected chiefs and 19/20 hereditary chiefs.

Try agin, dummy. 

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Time to spread the wealth.  Companies are going to need indigenous buy-in.  Share the benefits with them.  Simple. 

There will be no spreading of wealth. Kearney and his cronies will suck wealth into private organizations that will reward him later. Meanwhile wealth in Canada will actually dry up. This is already happening

And very soon what you will get is going back to the feudal days where some kids will be lucky enough to get an inheritance that involves real estate and homes and wealth and everyone else will be working to barely survive. The middle class is going to be all but destroyed and that's already well on its way.

Carney will be the death of Canada, Canada is already pretty sick right now and carney will put the nail in the coffin

[CITIZEN_2015]

No the Cons will destroy Canada if elected but no worries they will never be elected with this leadership.

What offended me most was the way they treated reporters. Unlike all other parties No independent reporters allowed to travel with them or ask questions in the rallies. Only selected reporters were allowed to ask questions with no follow-ups. Reporters have been blocked or pushed away by gangster surrounding Poilievre or other higher rank Conservatives. They act like dictators with full censorship. Trump-like people trying to take control of Canada. Over our dead bodies. 

As I predicted 6 months ago when the Cons were 20 points ahead in the polls, the next government will be a Liberal government and as I predicted when Mark Carney was elected as leader, it will be a majority Liberal government so congratulations to all citizens.

Edited Saturday at 05:52 PM by CITIZEN_2015

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

No the Cons will destroy Canada if elected

It's such a childish thing to say. You can make a claim like that about the liberals because if you look at the last 10 years Canada is actually being destroyed. Our quality of life is nose diving, our international reputation is in tatters, people can't afford food or housing, poverty levels are increasing, etc etc

But everything that the conservatives are proposing are basically just right of center economic policies and social policies that are time proven to be successful. There's no chance of them destroying anything

Your entire political viewpoint is driven on hatred and bigotry. You need to think about how unhealthy that is

[CITIZEN_2015]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's such a childish thing to say. You can make a claim like that about the liberals because if you look at the last 10 years Canada is actually being destroyed. Our quality of life is nose diving, our international reputation is in tatters, people can't afford food or housing, poverty levels are increasing, etc etc

But everything that the conservatives are proposing are basically just right of center economic policies and social policies that are time proven to be successful. There's no chance of them destroying anything

Your entire political viewpoint is driven on hatred and bigotry. You need to think about how unhealthy that is

This has been the case for all Western democracies not Canada alone. Inflation, budget deficits, housing crisus even worse in other countries mainly due to pandemic but it is convenient for you to blames Liberals for that as much as it is childish. The only mistake Liberals under Trudeau did was to open the door on undesirable immigrants and hence worsening the crisis.

[CITIZEN_2015]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Your entire political viewpoint is driven on hatred and bigotry. You need to think about how unhealthy that is

I didn't know wanting to protect the future victims of violent crimes by sending violent offenders to hell is hatred and bigotry!!!!! Did I say Capital Punishment for blacks and Muslims only? 

Edited Saturday at 06:07 PM by CITIZEN_2015

[CdnFox]

Just now, CITIZEN_2015 said:

This has been the case for all Western democracies not Canada alone.

Absolutely wrong. And we have numerous reports from banks and other organizations showing exactly why it's their policies that have caused the vast majority of these issues.

If you have to lie to make your point then you haven't got a very good point.

Excessive spending, population growth through immigration that is higher than our ability to add capacity in the form of homes and medical services etc accounts for most of it. Justin's buffoonery on the world stage accounts for our destroyed reputation. Our severe 100% a result of Justin's efforts. Our crime problems can be absolutely directly traced to Justin's new crime laws and his other factors and policies.

There's no arguing this. Every other country in the world certainly in the first world have seen their GDP per capita go up radically more than hours which is actually going down. We have the lowest housing per capita in any of the G7 by far and yet we're importing more people at a faster rate per capita than anyone in the G7. When there aren't enough homes the price of homes goes up

The liberals are directly 100% responsible for the vast majority of the main problems that our countries facing at the moment. That will not change under Kearney. That will almost certainly change under poilievre.

Get your head out of your echo chamber and look around. Shit is starting to get serious and if there isn't a course correction fairly quickly it's going to be multi-generational if not permanent damage

Just now, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I didn't know wanting to protect the future victims of violent crimes by sending violent offenders to hell is hatred and bigotry!!!!!

You don't know anything. You're dumber than a stump.

The conservatives are the ones proposing tougher laws that would keep people locked up instead of letting them on the street. The liberals pass laws that are putting people on the street

The only reason you're voting liberal is because of hatred and bigotry towards conservatives. The conservatives are promising to do exactly what you propose and claim you want but you're voting liberal.

Listen to yourself.

[CITIZEN_2015]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Absolutely wrong. And we have numerous reports from banks and other organizations showing exactly why it's their policies that have caused the vast majority of these issues.

 

This is a lie. I have families all over Europe and they all complain about rising cost, undesirable recent immigrants, housing shortage and budget deficits and worsening health care.

Edited Saturday at 06:10 PM by CITIZEN_2015

[CITIZEN_2015]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

The only reason you're voting liberal is because of hatred and bigotry towards conservatives. The conservatives are promising to do exactly what you propose and claim you want but you're voting liberal.

Listen to yourself.

You listen to yourself. You are accusing 61% of Canadians of same thing. The  support for the Cons is at 39% at most. Have you ever thought that it may be you full of hatred and bigotry against Liberals or in your childish mind it is always the other guy?

Edited Saturday at 06:16 PM by CITIZEN_2015

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

This is a lie.

It's the unvarnished truth. I've posted economist reports here bank reports all kinds of Articles, there is absolutely no doubt that our particular problems are 100% Canadian made.

Lie to yourself if you like but all it makes you is a liar

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

It's the unvarnished truth. I've posted economist reports here bank reports all kinds of Articles, there is absolutely no doubt that our particular problems are 100% Canadian made.

Lie to yourself if you like but all it makes you is a liar

I let readers decide who is the liar here. Apparently based on recent polls a good majority of Canadians, over 61% think you are the liar.

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

You listen to yourself. You are accusing 61% of Canadians of same thing.

No, I am accusing you. You said that one thing is important to you and yet you're voting for another thing.

Other people may think that there's no problem with allowing people loose on the streets and they're voting for a liberals for that reason. That's their choice. But you specifically made claims as to what you think should happen and yet you're voting the opposite. That is because of hatred and bigotry

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The  support for the Cons is at 39% at most. Have you ever thought that it may be you full of hatred and bigotry against Liberals or in your childish mind it is always the other guy?

I vote conservative because they represent my values. You vote liberal because you hate conservatives and have said so. They don't represent your values, you literally just said that but you don't like conservatives

My choices based on ethics. Your choice is based on hatred and bigotry. You are condemned by your own words

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

No the Cons will destroy Canada if elected but no worries they will never be elected with this leadership.

What offended me most was the way they treated reporters. Unlike all other parties No independent reporters allowed to travel with them or ask questions in the rallies. Only selected reporters were allowed to ask questions with no follow-ups. Reporters have been blocked or pushed away by gangster surrounding Poilievre or other higher rank Conservatives. They act like dictators with full censorship. Trump-like people trying to take control of Canada. Over our dead bodies. 

As I predicted 6 months ago when the Cons were 20 points ahead in the polls, the next government will be a Liberal government and as I predicted when Mark Carney was elected as leader, it will be a majority Liberal government so congratulations to all citizens.

It’s the complete opposite of what you claim.  All MSM, particularly CBC, CTV, The Star, and even the Globe are uncritically supporting the Liberals.  The independent journalists are actively suppressed by the Liberals.

You’re right about one thing: The Liberals are likely to win again due to the collusion between the state funded media and the Liberal government.  Canada is indeed permanently Liberal because there’s barely any mainstream free press providing a fair and forceful critique.

Edited Saturday at 07:32 PM by Zeitgeist

[herbie]

Opinions based on the concept that 'we assimilated them' so therefore they have no say.
Amazing how unlike the Borg, some of them can't learn shit from the peoples they assimilated.

Good 'conservatives' a la 1963 Alabama are among us.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Opinions based on the concept that 'we assimilated them' so therefore they have no say.
Amazing how unlike the Borg, some of them can't learn shit from the peoples they assimilated.

Good 'conservatives' a la 1963 Alabama are among us.

Nice try.  You fail to understand that economic development and a thriving society are not goals owned by the “white settler colonialists” you hate.  These goals are about the health and welfare of the entire society. How do you propose to pay for the health, education, and cultural protections for Indigenous peoples within North America and the world, for people who pay very little for these services themselves because they don’t pay taxes? How do you propose that these groups find jobs or get royalties in remote communities?

You’re the simpleton who only takes and wants but has no concept of how money is earned or the sacrifices necessary to run a thriving society.

You’re not alone though.  Canada is chalk full of self-proclaimed victims who think that other people owe them something for nothing.

Here’s a dose of reality:

In 9+ years of Liberal and NDP rule average Canadian salaries have declined 33% relative to average US wages.

Our government bureaucracy and debt have both grown by around 40%.

Our new environmental regulations and taxes have slowed economic development and our emissions have risen as U.S. emissions have fallen.

Our house prices have doubled.

Our birth rate sits at a collapsing 1.3, meaning that since Canadians can’t afford to have kids, Canadian culture must be overwhelmed by mass immigration just to maintain our population.

Our federal government has shunned Canada’s founding cultures and political figures.

Losers voting for losers.

You’re going to get more Liberal-NDP stupidity because that’s all you know.  You fear sensible government because you bought into the Liberal and Liberal-funded media talking points.

Due to your obstinate refusal to think critically, you’re going to get what you deserve.  One step closer to poverty and loss of sovereignty.  Well done.

Edited Saturday at 09:52 PM by Zeitgeist

[herbie]

Your goals are for the maximum profits for corporations that exploit Canada's resources and easing the rules to begin new operations to do so, while restricting the rights of the people affected and resuming polluting and destructive methods the people ruled on only in modern times.

Quit deceiving people that they, not the shareholder benefit greatly.

The LNG terminal in northern BC is already up, running, and exporting. The people who were only employed because negotiated regulations finished their several months of very good pay and are now back on EI again. They're supposed to be ever so grateful they at least got those few months and vote to remove those regulations?
While everyone in these parts wants to restart the Norther Gateway fight all over again and be told we must risk our waters and shores?

I have to repeat something from years and year back, it isn't about Alberta or the people of Alberta. When the oil comes out of the ground it is the companies oil, not "Alberta's" anymore. It is up to companies to negotiate terms with the people affected by their plans, which are not "Alberta's".
 

Edited Sunday at 01:25 AM by herbie

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, herbie said:

Your goals are for the maximum profits for corporations that exploit Canada's resources and easing the rules to begin new operations to do so, while restricting the rights of the people affected and resuming polluting and destructive methods the people ruled on only in modern times.

Quit deceiving people that they, not the shareholder benefit greatly.

The LNG terminal in northern BC is already up, running, and exporting. The people who were only employed because negotiated regulations finished their several months of very good pay and are now back on EI again. They're supposed to be ever so grateful they at least got those few months and vote to remove those regulations?
While everyone in these parts wants to restart the Norther Gateway fight all over again and be told we must risk our waters and shores?

I have to repeat something from years and year back, it isn't about Alberta or the people of Alberta. When the oil comes out of the ground it is the companies oil, not "Alberta's" anymore. It is up to companies to negotiate terms with the people affected by their plans, which are not "Alberta's".
 

Right. Nobody works at the LNG terminal in BC.  Completely jobless.  No work created at all. 

Nobody works mining that LNG either btw. Just jumps out of the ground on it's own. 🙄

[herbie]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Right. Nobody works at the LNG terminal in BC.  Completely jobless.  No work created at all

Yes there was, like a handful of people got real permanent jobs. Thanks for making my point you people think everyone should be thankful for 'as little as possible'.

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Yes there was, like a handful of people got real permanent jobs. 

 

Well if you call A few thousand people between those who drill product of those who run the plant a "Handful"

But yes we can both agree that you lied completely and extremely over exaggerated to try and make a feeble point that turned out not to be true. Happy to help