CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: His problem is a lot bigger than that. Believability, likeability, trustworthiness... people do not respond well to PeePee. No. In fact he's climbing like a rocket on all of those scores. Whereas carney is falling. The darn near neck and neck at this point. And one only has to look at his rallies to see the people are responding very well to him and he's been doing those for well over a year . The difference between you and me is that I look at statistics, facts, actual reactions and the things that can be measured and observed. You look at your Muh Feels. We'll see. I said at the beginning their Carney's best day is his first day and that is currently shaping up to be the case Quote
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 17 minutes ago, Goddess said: "For the public good" To the Liberals that means the money all goes into their bank accounts. No doubt it means that to you but what does the schedule of payment sums say about it? I'm guessing it didn't include Liberal MPs bank information or you would have posted it too. BTW you do realize these payments work out to over $263 million per Liberal MP right? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: No doubt it means that to you but what does the schedule of payment sums say about it? I'm guessing it didn't include Liberal MPs bank information or you would have posted it too. BTW you do realize these payments work out to over $263 million per Liberal MP right? Liberals have lots of friends Quote
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But they didn't act. We don't have pharmacare. Oh well, hopefully we'll get that in the next minority government. Heck the way Carney and PP are stealing ideas we'll probably get Pharmacare in either case. And now I see PP promising to make it illegal for Canadians to squirrel their wealth away in offshore bank accounts. How freaking woke is that? Go PP👍 Everything else you wrote is your typical hee haw nonsense. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Goddess Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Liberals have lots of friends Mmmm hmmm. Annette Verchuren and Stephen Guilbeault got more than a half billion between just the two of them. I'm sure eyeball will arrive soon to defend this. When Liberals do it, it's called "running the country." Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 7 minutes ago, Goddess said: Mmmm hmmm. Annette Verchuren and Stephen Guilbeault got more than a half billion between just the two of them. I'm sure eyeball will arrive soon to defend this. When Liberals do it, it's called "running the country." I'm sure he will defend this vigorously and then we will have to listen to a half an hour of additional whining about how he doesn't understand why people think he supports the liberals 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 7 minutes ago, Goddess said: I'm sure eyeball will arrive soon to defend this. More than half a billion is in line with the $263 billion you say will be deposited in bank accounts of Liberals. If you'll notice I'm actually giving you the benefit of doubt, an enormous amount that's commensurate with the numbers you're citing. You got that schedule yet btw? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Liberals have lots of friends Okay so let's just say Goddess means party members, around 400000. That works out to a tidy $100 grand per member. That schedule Goddess is fetching should clear up who's getting what. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I'm sure he will defend this vigorously and then we will have to listen to a half an hour of additional whining about how he doesn't understand why people think he supports the liberals Like I said I'm on your guys side. Especially if PP intends to prevent these Liberals from putting their money into an offshore account. I'm serious. If PP is serious about shutting down access for Canadians to offshore banking havens that's a game changer. I'll be happy to support his minority government. That's the only thing I would trust to hold his feet to that particular fire. Especially with old income-trust Harper pitching his creds. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Okay so let's just say Goddess means party members, around 400000. That works out to a tidy $100 grand per member. That schedule Goddess is fetching should clear up who's getting what. Or their businesses. Or various other groups they control, charities and such And if you're going to pretend liberals don't funnel such funds into various groups like that then i think your reputation around here will go from zero to subzero Quote
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Like I said I'm on your guys side. You're not on anyone's side but your own echo chamber's. And if you actually cared about shutting down the syphoning of money and offshore accounts you would have been doing everything you could to get justin out of power ages ago. You're just a shallow puddle morally speaking. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 55 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Or their businesses. Or various other groups they control, charities and such What does the schedule of payments Goddess brought to our attention say? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 35 minutes ago, eyeball said: What does the schedule of payments Goddess brought to our attention say? What does it matter? Corruption and grift is corruption and grift. Are you suggesting it might say something that would make that kind of thing acceptable to you? Like maybe it'll say they did it for cilmate change or something? Wrong is wrong. Another thing you on the left seem slow to grasp Quote
betsy Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 (edited) You look at the size of the rallies! It could be shades of the US election. WITHOUT CELEBRITIES! Both CBC and CTV, are commenting on the sizes! Edited April 9 by betsy Quote
Barquentine Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 8 hours ago, Legato said: Codswallop. Haven't heard that word in years. I like it. Quote
chocolatebob Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 I find it really funny for people living in a Canadian province (Alberta) to indicate that they will leave if the Liberals win! Funny that. I know of no laws that prevents anyone from leaving Canada. Albertans like any other Canadian are allowed/permitted/invited/encouraged to travel from Canada at any time they want. They may select their destination, pack their bags, and go! Nothing is stopping them. So, if the Liberals win then I expect there to be four things happening in Alberta (I was born in Calgary so I have no animus in anything I am saying .... it's just the truths of the matter) ... thing #1 - Less whining from westerners because there will be fewer of them, less moans and groans about their oil or about those blue eyed Arabs out east or that Trudeau sucks yadda yadda yadda (truth be told if there was a mirror out east that westerners looked into when they moaned they would get the same back about PM Harper or Poilievre from the east, from Quebec .... what goes around comes around) ... thing#2 the Alberta health system will be able to afford what they have in a much better way as there will be less crusty vaccine deniers in Alberta to trigger/inflate/promote viral infections ... I think that Texas would be a great destination for anti-vaxers to live (you see when you get vaccinated you not only protect your own loved ones but you also prevent the spread of a viral infection .... this is not news but it is true and it is as true as telling flat worlders that the world is shaped as a sphere) .... thing#3 if the Liberals win and Mark Carney becomes the PM of Canada then it would be safe for everyone across Canada and in Alberta to acknowledge that Steven Harper did NOT fix the 2008 financial crises but that Mark Carney DID .... Harper may have had Mark Carney in his 'advisors' group but it was not Harper that fixed things, Harper may have 'had' Carney but it was Carney that understood the issue and on Carney's plans/recommendations/actions Harper allowed Carney to do his job and it made things right .... Pierre Poilievre and Harper on their own devices could NOT have fixed that financial issue and they would be incapable of doing anything about the Trump tariffs (except to complain and moan and quickly renegotiate with Trump by bending the knee and kissing the ring and then finally threatening to leave Canada when Trump takes over the country as the 51st state) .... thing#4 there is NO thing #4 as the first three things are sufficient to make my point .... Poilievre and the Conservatives are best at what they do best and that is just to moan and complain .... they have NO real solutions they just have complaints .... OK I understand they hate the Liberals, they hate easterners, they hate anyone that wants them to get off oil and move to other energies like wind or solar or hydro .... you know like renewables ... like moving to renewables and getting off oil is something far to advanced and difficult for anyone in Alberta to understand or grasp or even get a job in and be able to make a living at .... that it is way to complicated for those people in Alberta to learn how to make it work .... maybe there is something in the water that has brought Albertan intellect down so low ... like maybe lead in their pipes or something! Quote
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: What does it matter? Corruption and grift is corruption and grift. Are you suggesting it might say something that would make that kind of thing acceptable to you? I'm suggesting it says you're full of shit. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 13 hours ago, eyeball said: Oh well, hopefully we'll get that in the next minority government Not likely. You think after the pounding the ndp is getting they'll ever be stupid enough to do a deal like that again? Everyone knows they propped up the libs but got nothing for it and now as is always the case in these situations they're getting creamed. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 51 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm suggesting it says you're full of shit. Why would it say I"M full of shit? I've never even mentioned it. You were talking to goddess. Did you get confused again? Your drugs wore off a little early did they? And you're saying that my statement that corruption and grift is always bad is "full of shit"? well - at least you're finally being honest about it Quote
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 8 hours ago, betsy said: You look at the size of the rallies! It could be shades of the US election. WITHOUT CELEBRITIES! Both CBC and CTV, are commenting on the sizes! Well i loved the reporter's question "I wanted to ask you if you think size matters" LOL But yeah, when people see that a politican is successful and popular that does matter for sure. And it's also giving the conservative voters a much needed sense that maybe the polls are wrong and there's hope yet and they should get out and vote on voting day. The skewed polling (especially from ekos who promised to do exactly that) was designed to discourage Conservatives and keep them at home on voting day and discourage them from volunteering or bothering with lawn signs etc... the sheer number of large highly successful rallies calls the polling into question. And for soft voters who are thinking about carney they compare what they see about size and content of the CPC rallys to Carneys and ask themselves "why is he so much more popular than Carney? why can't carney draw crowds like that?" It won't win an election on it's own but it's powerful and an important part of winning. Quote
Legato Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I'm suggesting it says you're full of shit. Quote
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 14 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Not likely. You think after the pounding the ndp is getting they'll ever be stupid enough to do a deal like that again? It doesn't matter to me who props who up. I'm not interested in anyone having a majority. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: It doesn't matter to me who props who up. I'm not interested in anyone having a majority. Sure you are. You just said that you wanted a minority just like the last one we had. That was your comment. In the last one we had the liberals actually had a majority because the NDP signed an agreement to back them in exchange for literally nothing. Now the NDP is being punished for it. So now that I've pointed that out you're changing your tune and saying something else. We don't need another Frankenstein government that's made up of the bodies of multiple parties. And I don't think we're going to get one. I think people have seen how badly minority governments work and how much of a failure the NDP in the left were and at the end of the day they'll choose a majority Quote
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Why would it say I"M full of shit? Because you are, so's Goddess. 17 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And you're saying that my statement that corruption and grift is always bad is "full of shit"? No, I said you are. It's possible the list of payees you guys can't seem to produce will prove otherwise but I doubt that'll ever happen. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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