Why costs of everything are higher under liberal-left governments in Canada

[blackbird]

With liberal left government, Canadians pay far more than other countries which have more conservative type of governments.  The reason is liberal left ideology means INTERVENTION, fees, regulations, and taxes for everything they can possible do.  This went as far as taxing the carbon dioxide that people released in the air in their normal life of driving their vehicles and heating their homes.  Although it reportedly has been dropped on the consumer side, it will continue big time in the corporate or industrial side and be passed on through the price of goods and services.

An example of the cost we must pay for a liberal left type of Socialist government is in the air fares in Canada.

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Why are ticket prices so high?

For starters, taxes and fees imposed by governments and airports account for 25 to 35 per cent of airfare costs in Canada. For example, “airport improvement” fees average $32.20 per departing passenger at Canada’s largest airports — compared to $6.47 in the United States and $16.38 in Australia (all figures here and below are in C$). For air traffic control (ATC), airlines pay charges based on distance, geography and other factors, and these costs are passed on to consumers. In a typical example, to fly a Boeing 777 in Canada, airlines must pay an estimated $802 in ATC fees, compared to between $192 and $478 in the United States and $493 in Mexico."

Opinion: Bad federal policy increases airfares in Canada

The interventionist, Socialist, type of government extends to everything in society.  The health care system is another example.  The costs associated with health care that the government pays are high for a number of reasons, which one can find through a little investigation or searching on the internet.

This same principle can be applied to everything that government has their hand in and their hand is huge.

Other examples are the cost of housing in Canada.  The cost of homes has doubled in a relatively few years as a result of government's actions.

The fact that Socialist policies are popular in Canada is because people demand every service imaginable.  While many people's medications are covered by employer extended benefits plans and paid for through monthly premiums, the NDP and liberal left still want to replace all that with a government-funded pharmacare system.  So a well-established private system would be abolished and a new system that might be a bad system would be funded by taxpayers.  Nothing is free.  Taxpayers must pay for the huge bureaucracy that would be required to run a public pharmacare system.   

If we could see the bureaucracy that runs the public health care system and the amount of money that is paid to bureaucrats we would probably be shocked.  It is in the billions or tens of billions of dollars.  What percentage actually provides health care to patients versus what percentage goes to administering the system would likely shock most people.  The public service has been increased by a large percentage under the liberals and left-wing governments in Canada and you can be sure a lot of money is going to administration of the public services including health care.   All of this must be paid through taxation.  So when people vote for more government services, they are really voting for a tax and spend type of government.  That also means more government debt, higher amounts of the annual budget to service the debt.  At present Canada must pay as much money in interest payments of the federal debt as they contribute for the federal share toward health care, tens of billions of dollars.

Edited March 18 by blackbird

[TreeBeard]

57 minutes ago, blackbird said:

“airport improvement” fees average $32.20 per departing passenger at Canada’s largest airports — compared to $6.47 in the United States and $16.38

$25 more? Thats a pretty minor difference in the price of a ticket. 
 

58 minutes ago, blackbird said:

to fly a Boeing 777 in Canada, airlines must pay an estimated $802 in ATC fees, compared to between $192 and $478 in the United States and $493 in Mexico."

A 777 must carry 300+ passengers?   That’s $3 per ticket.  That’s nothing.  
 

We’re a big empty country.  It will cost more to fly here.  

[TreeBeard]

These two maps should tell you why flying is more expensive in Canada.

 

 

[herbie]

The "liberal left" sets the price of improvement fees just like it does for beans, coffee, and your car insurance? No wonder the parking rates are more than a motel room was 10 years ago!

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

$25 more? Thats a pretty minor difference in the price of a ticket. 

What a liar!  Everything you and a couple others say is just a lie.  The price of homes has doubled under Trudeau or even higher and the cities are full of homeless people and mental cases, drug addicts and criminals.  Thank the Liberals you liar.

[TreeBeard]

34 minutes ago, blackbird said:

What a liar!  Everything you and a couple others say is just a lie.  The price of homes has doubled under Trudeau or even higher and the cities are full of homeless people and mental cases, drug addicts and criminals.  Thank the Liberals you liar.

The improvement fee, which is added to the ticket, is about $25 more in Canada.  You gave the numbers.  How am I lying by doing math?

Check my work for me:

  $32 minus $6, rounded down.   Sure, I might have been $1 off, but that’s a rounding error.

The more expensive Canadian fee accounts for $25 in the price of a ticket.   How am I lying?

Edited March 18 by TreeBeard

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

What a liar!  Everything you and a couple others say is just a lie.  The price of homes has doubled under Trudeau or even higher and the cities are full of homeless people and mental cases, drug addicts and criminals.  Thank the Liberals you liar.

Show me a place in the world (developed world) where prices have gone down.
You are far and away the most 1diotc and simple closed minded person on re-politics LOL

Inflation is world wide and the covid crisis made it even worse.

[Barquentine]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

The price of homes has doubled under Trudeau

And for homeowners, many of whom have most of their wealth in their homes, that's a good thing, and a good thing for their kids who will inherit. Real estate is the prime source of generational wealth.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

$25 more? Thats a pretty minor difference in the price of a ticket. 

It's actually not.

Vancouver airport alone had over 2 million passengers in January alone. 

Facts and Stats | YVR

a 25 dollar difference would mean that 50 million dollars in that ONE MONTH ALONE was hoovered out of the Canadian economy. 

No matter how you slice it that has a major impact on our productivity and how much money is left over for things like discretionary consumer purchases.  That winds up putting Downward pressure on wages and upward pressure on costs and prices.

And when you start adding it up to all of the other $25 differences you run into the effect is substantial

This is a problem that the left has never understood, they think that somehow you can siphon huge amounts of money out of the economy and there will be no consequence. But there is a consequence and it does drive costs up

 

[blackbird]

21 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

And for homeowners, many of whom have most of their wealth in their homes, that's a good thing, and a good thing for their kids who will inherit. Real estate is the prime source of generational wealth.

Home price increases have normally been at a reasonable rate.  But suddenly doubling the price in the space of a few years because of government actions is a disaster for the millions of young Canadians that now can't afford to buy a home and may never be able to afford one.  It is a disaster that was created by the government.

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[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

It is a disaster that was created by the government.

A disaster that's been created all over the planet by governments everywhere.

What is it about this you don't get?

Perhaps if you could provide examples where this isn't the case - where a typical family home can still be bought and paid for by a single earner who's putting their kids thru college and a little nest egg aside for him and the missus when they retire.

In any case, it's a disaster largely caused by greed and scarcity - the foundations of unsustainability.

Welcome to reality. Get used to it.

[herbie]

Pray harder, maybe Jesus can reduce prices. He has as much to do with them as what party you support.

 

 

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, eyeball said:

A disaster that's been created all over the planet by governments everywhere.

What is it about this you don't get?

Perhaps if you could provide examples where this isn't the case - where a typical family home can still be bought and paid for by a single earner who's putting their kids thru college and a little nest egg aside for him and the missus when they retire.

In any case, it's a disaster largely caused by greed and scarcity - the foundations of unsustainability.

Welcome to reality. Get used to it.

It's a disaster created by left-wing ideology, a theory that somehow if you eat the rich things will get cheaper, and excessive regulation.

All of these things were absolutely predicted. When you Vote woke you go broke

[eyeball]

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

All of these things were absolutely predicted. When you Vote woke you go broke

That's odd they expressly voted against woke to avoid going broke in the US and now the guy they voted for is warning about a recession.

 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's odd they expressly voted against woke to avoid going broke in the US and now the guy they voted for is warning about a recession.

 

Recessions come and go but crippling debt is forever

[eyeball]

29 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Recessions come and go but crippling debt is forever

You make it sound like all the money in the world has evaporated but there's actually some $80 trillion in the world.

Ever heard of Psyche 16? It's staggering how much wealth is just lying around waiting to be used.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You make it sound like all the money in the world has evaporated but there's actually some $80 trillion in the world.

I have never said anything about the world's money evaporating or they're even being a shortage of money.

Once again you can't argue with the truth so you create some sort of weird little fantasy bullshit to try and argue with that

[blackbird]

9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

A 777 must carry 300+ passengers?   That’s $3 per ticket.  That’s nothing.  
 

Again you are being very deceptive.  Did you read the information?

"For starters, taxes and fees imposed by governments and airports account for 25 to 35 per cent of airfare costs in Canada."   That is a lot more than $3.  You didn't mention all the other fees and taxes. 

 For a ticket of $300, all the taxes and fees would add up to around $100 on average if it adds 25 to 35 per cent.

[TreeBeard]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Again you are being very deceptive.  Did you read the information?

"For starters, taxes and fees imposed by governments and airports account for 25 to 35 per cent of airfare costs in Canada."   That is a lot more than $3.  You didn't mention all the other fees and taxes. 

 For a ticket of $300, all the taxes and fees would add up to around $100 on average if it adds 25 to 35 per cent.

Would you rather your taxes went up, or that people paid more for the luxury of flying?  

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Would you rather your taxes went up, or that people paid more for the luxury of flying?  

How about we just control government spending and nobody has to pay more for their air tickets for their taxes.

That's pretty simple and straightforward but I know you won't answer me a) because you're scared spitless of me and b) You know your answer was ridiculous to begin with. We taxed the hell out of our people and we still go deeply in debt. We are paying for things we cannot afford and that makes us far less competitive and that becomes a spiral death which eventually sees us crashing into the ground

[eyeball]

53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I have never said anything about the world's money evaporating or they're even being a shortage of money.

Good, there's still lots of room for more debt and suckers are born every minute.

If they won't lend it we'll just tax it.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Once again you can't argue with the truth so you create some sort of weird little fantasy bullshit to try and argue with that

Lying is all you understand, I'm just trying to be helpful here.

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We are paying for things we cannot afford and that makes us far less competitive and that becomes a spiral death which eventually sees us crashing into the ground

So what? It's like climate change, things crash all the time. We'll just adapt.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Good, there's still lots of room for more debt and suckers are born every minute.

See? I told you you were a liberal  

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Lying is all you understand, I'm just trying to be helpful here.

No I understand a great deal. The problem is lying is almost all you do. I'm sure you think that it's helpful to someone.

[eyeball]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

See? I told you you were a liberal  

Liar, you said I was a Liberal.

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No I understand a great deal. The problem is lying is almost all you do.

No it's what I do all the time or you'd never be able to distrust me.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Liar, you said I was a Liberal.

Usually it's not till the end of the day before I drive you to drink and stupidity   

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

No it's what I do all the time or you'd never be able to distrust me.

Amusingly that's a false statement