The Republicans’ Crusade To Turn USA Into A Toxic Shithole

[robosmith]

44 minutes ago, User said:

Not lying, I just didn't read that far into the article to find a very general and broad statement when the title and gist was not focused on that. 

But OK, so... a biden era plan. That is a plan, so nothing changed there. 

Pollution standards for cars and trucks... OK, can you even be bothered to explain what that rollback is?

The left has been piling on regulations to force people into other vehicles and away from combustion engines. 

In reality, the "shithole" in the OP title directly refers to the 31 orders referenced in my cite.

[Legato]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Oh man...you just completely undermined the entire argument for acting to limit AGW.

You deserve a Nobel and millions in cash and prizes. Good job!

I did? Please elaborate.

[eyeball]

24 minutes ago, Legato said:

I did? Please elaborate.

The stunning insight...the demolition of logic...the sheer genius of it...

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The stunning insight...the demolition of logic...the sheer genius of it...

Put the bong away and try again.

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

Put the bong away and try again.

The stunning genius...the insightful demolition of logic...

You're saying you're wrong?

 

 

[Legato]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

The stunning genius...the insightful demolition of logic...

You're saying you're wrong?

 

 

I'm saying nothing. 

I was going to get one of these but according to sky falling coalition I soon won't need one.

[gatomontes99]

Don't you guys understand? The only way to solve a problem that doesn't exist is to give up your rights and make your economic situation so difficult that you have no choice but to succumb to the government handouts and be their slave for generations to come. #hivemind!

[BeaverFever]

10 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

It is not the Republicans...it is Trump and his buddies alone.

Republicans are all for it, always have been. Every single republican regime rolls back pollution laws when in power and opposes pollution laws when not in power. 

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, Deluge said:

That's where you lost me, a$$hole.

Kill the windmills!!

Why are you goat worshippers trying to destroy Tesla, anyways? They're supposed to be climate friendly, yes? 

There are better EV alternatives than tesla and its lunatic founder 

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, User said:

This entire thread is premised on pure ignorance. 

What is being talked about here is the absurd finding that "greenhouse gasses" not mere pollution, is a threat to human health because of "climate change."

Yet, you guys are ignorantly conflating this with general laws on pollution or the clean air act. 

You sit here crying about Trump, when nothing he is doing here will be anything close to what China and India are doing right now to "climate change" with their greenhouse gas emissions. 

 

 

No nice try. They are rolling back 31 different air and water pollution laws some of which date back to the 1970s.

China and India are polluted toxic shitholes where life is cheap and humans are treated as a disposable resource, are you actually advocating that we sink to their standards ?

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Don't you guys understand? The only way to solve a problem that doesn't exist is to give up your rights and make your economic situation so difficult that you have no choice but to succumb to the government handouts and be their slave for generations to come. #hivemind!

Climate change is real and are cancer,  asthma, lead poisoning, mercury poisoning and whole range of other pollution-causing diseases. The only one making the economic situation difficult is your id1ot president. The MAGA cult who refuses to see reality is the only hivemind!   

Edited March 15, 2025 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

6 hours ago, User said:

Pollution standards for cars and trucks... OK, can you even be bothered to explain what that rollback is?

The left has been piling on regulations to force people into other vehicles and away from combustion engines.

Targeted by Trump (non-exhaustive list from multiple sources):

• Measures requiring energy companies to replace equipment and stem leaks of methane from oil and gas wells.
   

  Requirements for greenhouse gas releases to be reported to the federal government.

• Wastewater pollution curbs on coal power plants.

• Requirements for refineries, chemical plants and other facilities to maintain risk management programs, meant to counter the risk of catastrophic accidents.

• Ambient air quality standards limiting fine particulate matter, including soot.
   

  …It is also considering rolling back regulations on the neurotoxin mercury coming from power plants
   

  …Zeldin announced earlier on Wednesday that he will reduce the number of waterways that would face regulation under the Clean Water Act in a move urged by the agriculture and petrochemical industries.

   

  https://www.yahoo.com/news/epa-reconsider-legal-basis-us-180117185.html

[Nationalist]

Hilarious. 

"DRILL BABY DRILL!"

And watch the economy begin to bounce back.

[gatomontes99]

34 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Climate change is real and are cancer,  asthma, lead poisoning, mercury poisoning and whole range of other pollution-causing diseases. The only one making the economic situation difficult is your id1ot president. The MAGA cult who refuses to see reality is the only hivemind!   

Oh just stop. That's not going to happen. There is a way to be safe and not be big brother.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh just stop. That's not going to happen. There is a way to be safe...

Without rules and regulations? How exactly?

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Hilarious. 

"DRILL BABY DRILL!"

And watch the economy begin to bounce back.

Begin? Trump hasn't destroyed the economy YET..

Just the stock market which lost all its gains since Trump took over. LMAO

Thanks for proving your IGNORANCE AGAIN. 

[gatomontes99]

41 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Without rules and regulations? How exactly?

That's a false dichotomy. There is a place between completely banned and wild west.

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

That's a false dichotomy. There is a place between completely banned and wild west.

Where is that place, can you describe it or do you have an example of it?

[gatomontes99]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Where is that place, can you describe it or do you have an example of it?

Well, look at California. They've regulated trucking so heavily that most semis can't operate there. So, those that can charge an exorbitant rate to haul loads to the Cali border. Then, the slightly older trucks pick up the load and take it to its destination. Part of the laws they have that prevent most of the trucking industry from working there have to do with emissions.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Begin? Trump hasn't destroyed the economy YET..

Just the stock market which lost all its gains since Trump took over. LMAO

Thanks for proving your IGNORANCE AGAIN. 

Can you count how many times you've said I'm ignorant or similar...bankrupt...

Then found out I was right?

Because I've lost count. 😚

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Republicans are all for it, always have been. Every single republican regime rolls back pollution laws when in power and opposes pollution laws when not in power. 

Not all republicans are "all for it".

Many have questioned Trump's tactics and actions but, are very scared of him. Bullies always put the scare in people.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Can you count how many times you've said I'm ignorant or similar...bankrupt...

Then found out I was right?

Because I've lost count. 😚

It's very simple: NEVER.

Your vacuous responses are ALWAYS BANKRUPT.

[robosmith]

13 hours ago, eyeball said:

Without rules and regulations? How exactly?

RepubliCONS don't understand that without penalties, businesses will dump their pollution wherever it's cheapest to do so.

They don't care about, or deny, they are poisoning PEOPLE, or destroying their homes with unprecedented extreme weather events. 🤮 

[User]

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

No nice try. They are rolling back 31 different air and water pollution laws some of which date back to the 1970s.

China and India are polluted toxic shitholes where life is cheap and humans are treated as a disposable resource, are you actually advocating that we sink to their standards ?

Name the top 3 examples of those 31 roll backs you are talking about and why you think they do what you claim here. 

 

[User]

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Targeted by Trump (non-exhaustive list from multiple sources):

• Measures requiring energy companies to replace equipment and stem leaks of methane from oil and gas wells.
   

  Requirements for greenhouse gas releases to be reported to the federal government.

• Wastewater pollution curbs on coal power plants.

• Requirements for refineries, chemical plants and other facilities to maintain risk management programs, meant to counter the risk of catastrophic accidents.

• Ambient air quality standards limiting fine particulate matter, including soot.
   

  …It is also considering rolling back regulations on the neurotoxin mercury coming from power plants
   

  …Zeldin announced earlier on Wednesday that he will reduce the number of waterways that would face regulation under the Clean Water Act in a move urged by the agriculture and petrochemical industries.

   

  https://www.yahoo.com/news/epa-reconsider-legal-basis-us-180117185.html

OK, what were the measurements before and what are they being rolled back to?

When you can give me specifics, then we can talk. 

Because, the left pushes more and more absurd standards every chance they get, doesn't make it bad if they are rolled back to whatever reasonable standards were in place before.