SpankyMcFarland Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 (edited) I‘m sure Starmer has a firm grip on King Charles’s mouth these days, making sure nothing about Canada emerges that might insult the orange nincompoop in any way, shape or form. This is awkward for us colonials because Charles is our, like, head of state, albeit a very part-time one, and we would welcome a little fiery rhetoric right now from him. Our current humiliating situation should demonstrate to any reasonable person that the jig is up on this quaint arrangement. It was a good jig while it lasted but it’s time is well and truly done and dusted now. We need our own head of state answerable to us alone. Edited March 16 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 This whole line about Trump ‘only joking’ about Canada really doesn’t wash when we’re dealing with a guy who sounds like Tony Soprano half the time. If a dangerous criminal lived next door to you and started joking about wanting to take your house off you, would you really take it as just a bit of eccentric humour? 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I think that post illustrates a key Poilievre problem in this election. Some on the right are sympathetic to Trump. No where did i say i was sympathetic with trump in my post. Do you see those issues i outlined as a weakness or a strength ?...a lot of Canadians just refuse to see anything thinking we are cruising through life and federal government responsibilities are not to be taken seriously. pointing something that should be obvious to everyone is not being sympathetic to trump.. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 5 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: It would be different. Imagine being in a national crisis where your country’s head of state is forbidden to say anything by a foreign government. That’s the humiliating predicament we find ourselves in. What a load of bullshit. Nobody forbids the king from doing anything. But it's been well known that Canada is its own independent creature for quite some time now and out of respect for that they let us handle our own affairs But the king absolutely can say something to trump and by all accounts has said something to trump. Basically back off on the sovereignty thing. And if it does come down to it having England to be able to stick up for us as a value that we wouldn't have Don't just make shit up like that. If you don't have a legitimate argument then don't make an argument but don't waste everyone's time with a bunch of lies and fairy tales that you pulled out of your ass because you don't like something Quote
User Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 18 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: This whole line about Trump ‘only joking’ about Canada really doesn’t wash when we’re dealing with a guy who sounds like Tony Soprano half the time. If a dangerous criminal lived next door to you and started joking about wanting to take your house off you, would you really take it as just a bit of eccentric humour? "dangerous criminal" Once again, it helps if you start with a valid premise. Quote
User Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 19 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: 1. Our head of state has been silenced on this vital matter by a foreign head of government, a disgraceful situation that I predicted would occur one day - didn’t expect it so soon. 2. President Trump has repeatedly threatened our sovereignty. No reasonable person can deny that any more or pass it off as a joke. First you claimed you had no head of state, now he is silenced. How is he silenced and by who and how? "threatened" how? Stupid off hand comments are not real threats. I get it though, you guys are going to play this up as much as you can for politics. That alone is reason enough that Trump should stop. Quote
Radiorum Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 On 3/15/2025 at 6:19 PM, Army Guy said: I think we as a nation have provided all the ammunition that trump needed to make his points, weak border, really our whole security apparatus is weak, take a look at all our issues, out of control immigration, refugees, students, housing prices, inflation, weak dollar, weak economy, over all we are weak in the eyes of trump and we as a nation did that....all trump did was take advantage of that...That's what everyone is pissed at....what we as a nation should be doing is writing down all these faults that have come to light and work to fix them should be priority , not jetting off to see europe...but sitting down with trump and fixing all this, if he does fix that even i will vote for him...but some how i doubt that will ever happen... Oh, so you have bought into the Trump delusion, too... Quote
Radiorum Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 On 3/16/2025 at 2:25 PM, ironstone said: Late last year, Justin Trudeau told the New York Times that Canada is becoming a new kind of country, not defined by our history or European national origins, but by a “pan-cultural heritage”. “There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada,” Trudeau said, concluding that he sees Canada as “the first post-national state.” He is full of shit. Quote
Radiorum Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 On 3/16/2025 at 3:05 PM, Dougie93 said: Canadians are united by their fear, loathing & resentment of America, and by being priggish ; holier than thou Nuh-uh. I don't feel holy. And I sure as hell ain't priggish. No fear, loathing or resentment furrows my brow. In the words of Bob and Doug McKenzie, "Take off, eh." Quote
CdnFox Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 (edited) 4 hours ago, Radiorum said: Oh, so you have bought into the Trump delusion, too... I note you can't actually refute what he said. It's like your little admission that you've lost. If you genuinely think he's wrong then make a counter argument Edited March 18 by CdnFox Quote
Zeitgeist Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 (edited) On 3/6/2025 at 1:52 PM, CDN1 said: Yeah, whatever that's supposed to mean today. No one will recognize this country in 20 years. Immigration without assimilation is an invasion. Import the third world, become it. Diversity inevitably breeds conflict. The future of Canada is a low trust society, arranged child marriages, violent crime infested cities, regular Islamist attacks, Sharia law, and women in face coverings everywhere you look. Sure bodes well for the future rights, safety of women and girls, lgbt, and other vulnerable groups. Progressives will ultimately lose everything they've fought for. I’m going to disagree with you on that. I’m saying this as a Catholic. Islam has generally been a positive force in Canada in terms of respecting the family and leaving out the radical woke excesses. Civilization is a numbers game. The most successful societies are the ones that literally reproduce themselves. Radical woke lifestyles will only collapse the birth rate further, necessitating mass immigration just to maintain the population and baseline growth, and the inevitable loss is culture, or rather the civilization becomes a world civilization. Not a bad vision in some ways, except that eventually all civilizations disappear in the melting pot. So ultimately you want to preserve culture in order to preserve diversity. Society doesn’t need to become more progressive. In some ways it has to become more traditional: bigger homes and bigger families. Instead people are buying overpriced one bedroom condors because that’s all the current Canadian Dream can provide. It wasn’t always so. Edited March 18 by Zeitgeist Quote
Army Guy Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 14 hours ago, Radiorum said: Oh, so you have bought into the Trump delusion, too... How is fixing this tariff thing delusional ? Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Radiorum Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 5 hours ago, Army Guy said: How is fixing this tariff thing delusional ? You need to understand that whatever Trump says about why he wants tariffs is all lies. Fentanyl is not pouring over the border from Canada, Canada has never treated the USA badly, trade is fair between our two nations. But he's got it in his head that his legacy will be golden if he annexes Canada. He's quite serious about it and will cause untold economic pain in this country to achieve his nefarious goal. He's gone mad with power. And yes, he has totally hoodwinked his supporters. In Trump's mind, tariffs represent income for the federal government. But where do you think this income is going to come from? From the American working class, despite Trump's false claims that it will be paid by foreigners. This is Trump's strategy: "Tax my voters, enrich my donors." Quote
eyeball Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 On 3/13/2025 at 1:16 PM, SpankyMcFarland said: Our current predicament illustrates a problem inherent in sharing a monarch. Britain may welcome Trump on a royal visit while that nincompoop is openly threatening another of Charles’s realms. Would you rather we have our own symbolic relatively pointless and powerless monarch? I'd be much happier with an activist Commonwealth monarch who had reserve powers that enabled it to keep the governments governing the monarch's subjects, us, within their guardrails. If you're suggesting Charles should have the authority to feel free to tell Trump to go **** himself on our behalf I agree. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 32 minutes ago, eyeball said: Would you rather we have our own symbolic relatively pointless and powerless monarch? I'd be much happier with an activist Commonwealth monarch who had reserve powers that enabled it to keep the governments governing the monarch's subjects, us, within their guardrails. If you're suggesting Charles should have the authority to feel free to tell Trump to go **** himself on our behalf I agree. I would prefer an elected ceremonial president. There’s lots of things for them to do around the country. The head of state should represent everybody. Quote
eyeball Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 36 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I would prefer an elected ceremonial president. There’s lots of things for them to do around the country. The head of state should represent everybody. We can barely get the people we vote for now to represent us. More nationalistic ceremonialism is the very last thing the planet needs. I'd support a planetary representative though. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: We can barely get the people we vote for now to represent us. That's because they know you'll keep voting for them even if they don't represent you. Heck they can represent out and out criminals and you'll still vote for them. And all the while you'll scream about how elections don't matter Quote
eyeball Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's because they know you'll keep voting for them even if they don't represent you. Heck they can represent out and out criminals and you'll still vote for them. What criminals? You mean real criminals as determined by an investigation, charges prosecution, conviction and sentencing? Cite? 21 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And all the while you'll scream about how elections don't matter No I won't, I'll calmly talk about alternatives like proportional representation, citizen's assemblies or Parliamentarians chosen like jurors however. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: What criminals? You mean real criminals as determined by an investigation, charges prosecution, conviction and sentencing? Yes. What did you think snc lavalin's little trip to court that trudeau was trying to prevent was about? Forgot about that didn't you Quote Cite? Oh I think you can find the snc level and scandal information yourself if you try really really hard It wasn't a couple of the papers Quote No I won't, I'll calmly talk about alternatives like proportional representation, citizen's assemblies or Parliamentarians chosen like jurors however. You've already been screaming and you're not talking about any alternatives. You talk about putting body cameras on all the politicians and how everything Justin did was harper's fault. You can come utterly meaningless and useless as far as that goes, you're only redeeming value is your comedic value Quote
Army Guy Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Radiorum said: You need to understand that whatever Trump says about why he wants tariffs is all lies. Fentanyl is not pouring over the border from Canada, Canada has never treated the USA badly, trade is fair between our two nations. But he's got it in his head that his legacy will be golden if he annexes Canada. He's quite serious about it and will cause untold economic pain in this country to achieve his nefarious goal. He's gone mad with power. And yes, he has totally hoodwinked his supporters. In Trump's mind, tariffs represent income for the federal government. But where do you think this income is going to come from? From the American working class, despite Trump's false claims that it will be paid by foreigners. This is Trump's strategy: "Tax my voters, enrich my donors." Fentanyl is being exported out of Canada, the worlds largest bust of fentanyl was made in Australia and it came from Canada...the largest bust in Canada was enough to kill 9 million americans....so there is a problem, just not as large as the mexican one...CBSA has already told the media our borders are porous with only 1 % of all trucks and containers being checked, and zero trains...we still have issues with other drugs and guns getting into the country....so lets not pretend our borders are even close to being secured...renting 4 helos and 1.38 bil in new investment is not going to move the needle much... Tariffs are a source of income , back in the day before income taxes thats how nations got their income....I get it todays world has moved on, and those tariffs are being paid by those companies importing into the states first....they recoup those costs by passing them on to the consumer....which in turns forces consumers to buy other products that are cheaper....hopefully they like your product enough to come back after tariffs are lifted...if not your forces to find another consumer base....which is another reason Trump likes tariffs he wants to force American consumers to buy american, either way both sides the consumers are getting screwed.... This is not Canada's first exposure to trump, this is trump 2.0 and we did not learn anything from the last tariffs we had, sure we had big talks back then about diversifying our economy....but like everything we are slow learners..and we quickly forget the pain of yesterday...I hope we do find new markets for our resources, only this time i hope the liberals take down all those roadblocks the previous liberals put up to stop getting our resources to market...Somehow i don't think that is going to happen... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 25 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yes. What did you think snc lavalin's little trip to court that trudeau was trying to prevent was about? Forgot about that didn't you Not at all, it was to avoid going to court. What did you think it was about? 26 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Oh I think you can find the snc level and scandal information yourself if you try really really hard It wasn't a couple of the papers Jody Wilson-Raybould blew the whistle. What else do I need to know? BTW where's the record of the investigation, charges, prosecution, conviction and sentencing etc that followed? 31 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You've already been screaming... I'm not writing in all caps. 33 minutes ago, CdnFox said: and you're not talking about any alternatives. You talk about putting body cameras on all the politicians I've talked about politicians volunteering to wear cameras for the same reason police do. 34 minutes ago, CdnFox said: and how everything Justin did was harper's fault. You're the only ones who's ever suggested that. I simply mock the catch and release program Harper created for corrupt politicians. Talk about a fox in the henhouse. 36 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You can come utterly meaningless and useless as far as that goes, you're only redeeming value is your comedic value I aim to please. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 21 minutes ago, eyeball said: Not at all, it was to avoid going to court. What did you think it was about? It was absolutely not anything to do with not going to court. Sigh, you just can't help being an !diot or lying. It was to avoid criminal consequences for the crimes they'd already been proven guilty of Arguing with you is like trying to have a foot race with a tree sloth. Quote Jody Wilson-Raybould blew the whistle. What else do I need to know? That it was about criminal charges etc etc. You know.... what you claimed to ask about a few seconds ago but can't remember because you have the memory of a gold fish. That's why you keep thinking you've been talking about stuff for decades . If it was more than 30 seconds ago it feels like you're whole life to you. Quote BTW where's the record of the investigation, charges, prosecution, conviction and sentencing etc that followed? All recorded court documents. Quote I'm not writing in all caps. You don't need to. Quote I've talked about politicians volunteering to wear cameras for the same reason police do. You've insisted it should be mandatory and 24 hours. You're an absolute nutbar. Quote You're the only ones who's ever suggested that. I simply mock the catch and release program Harper created for corrupt politicians. Talk about a fox in the henhouse. No, you've said it outright and more than once. Oh, and harper's system caught justin. But you think that's harper's fault not justin's for some reason. Quote
eyeball Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: It was absolutely not anything to do with not going to court. Cite? 17 minutes ago, CdnFox said: It was to avoid criminal consequences for the crimes they'd already been proven guilty of You have the court transcripts of the proceedings? 18 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Arguing with you is like trying to have a foot race with a tree sloth. That's your tail not a sloth. 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Hee haw... 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: All recorded court documents. Go get em' then. 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You've insisted it should be mandatory and 24 hours. You're an absolute nutbar. Only for the ones that have been convicted. 21 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No, you've said it outright and more than once. Oh, and harper's system caught justin. But you think that's harper's fault not justin's for some reason. Cite. 21 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Oh, and harper's system caught justin Cite. 22 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ...hee haw... Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Cite? See previous comments Quote You have the court transcripts of the proceedings? They're available for a fee, have at it Quote That's your tail not a sloth. Sure kid Quote Go get em' then. Why? I already know what they say. You're the one who's ignorant Quote Only for the ones that have been convicted. No it was for all of them. I mean how else you're going to convict him if you can't catch him right? The whole thing was ass and I'm beyond belief Quote Cite. Done long ago. You are good for ages that it was fluke that harper's law worked. So we know you're being dishonest now Quote Cite. You already asked that. Oh dear, seems like we're at that point of the night again where you start to have your little emotional breakdown because you're looking like a Tard. It's absolutely hilarious how you somehow managed to spend 3/4 of your time on this site trying to disavow, rewrite, patch up what you said the other quarter of the time that made you look so stupid LOLOL Quote
eyeball Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Hee haw... ...as always. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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