Marcron actually has partially confirmed Trump's claim that EU has got their money back

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. You would not help any country that was invaded by Russia.

Ukraine is the proxy.

IE., the US is using Ukraine like a dishrag to fight against Russia for them. 

Ukrainian lives are being thrown away by the tens of thousands while the US, France, Britain and Germany just stuff dollar bills in Zelensky's burgeoning g-string. 

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

It doesn't matter whether the money was spent, comrade. It was stolen from tax payers to sit in a trust fund. 

Go sell some onions on the corner. 

It was Iran's money and had nothing to do with US taxpayers.

[robosmith]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Ukraine is the proxy.

IE., the US is using Ukraine like a dishrag to fight against Russia for them. 

Ukrainian lives are being thrown away by the tens of thousands while the US, France, Britain and Germany just stuff dollar bills in Zelensky's burgeoning g-string. 

You are DELUSIONAL. Ukraine is fighting for its freedom because Putin INVADED and they don't want his JACK BOOTS on their THROATS.

NOT anything to do with the US twisting their arm nor manipulating them in ANY WAY. Putin doesn't want to compete with the Western economies, he wants Ukraine for himself BY FORCE.

Just like Trump is trying to own HALF of their resources. 🤮

[Deluge]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It was Iran's money and had nothing to do with US taxpayers.

So it has, silly me. 

I've been so caught up in all the democrat created filth that DOGE has been digging up, that I jumped too early!  

[herbie]

You f*cking Trumpalos cannot start a thread without a total f^cking lie in the title.

Macron corrected Trumps bullshit that their gift was a loan repeatedly and the absurd claim they haven't given the seized Russian assets too as compensation for doing it was simply more of Trump's m0ronic business conjecture.
You'd buy the claim that he 'should have' made $500 million and sold something for $100 million he made a deductible $400 million loss would fly too.

Well guess what, Canada's giving Ukraine $5 billion from seized Russian assets along with more aid and we're not trying to blackmail them for their natural resources in return. Think of it as CANADA defending democracy, stepping up as the USA can't and won't anymore. Lost your claim America.

[xul]

It seems like Trump has got what he wants. What Zelenskyy gets for Ukraine we will see. Wish it would not be like an internet joke---Putin gets lands, Trump gets mines, Zelenskyy gets honor 😢

 

[xul]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Ukraine is fighting for its freedom

These bulls fight for...adrenaline I guess. But obviously they fight on their own will. If man can force bulls fight, we would have seen lots of cow fights as well.

Meanwhile, they still are proxies of these man. These men use the nature of these bulls setting up the situation for their own gains, like gambling, entertaining, or anything they want.

 

 

Trump belongs to those men who live on eating beef;

Biden belongs to these men who lead these bull to fight then, after one bull falls, they will still eat its corpse.

Edited February 26 by xul

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, xul said:

These bulls fight for...adrenaline I guess. But obviously they fight on their own will. If man can force bulls fight, we would have seen lots of cow fights as well.

Meanwhile, they still are proxies of these man. These men use the nature of these bulls setting up the situation for their own gains, like gambling, entertaining, or anything they want.

 

 

Trump belongs to those men who live on eating beef;

Biden belongs to these men who lead these bull to fight then, after one bull falls, they will still eat its corpse.

Are you trying to say that you believe Biden was smart enough to entice Putin into invading Ukraine?

Or what?

Putin knew what he was doing. He wants the gas reserves off Ukraine's Southern coast AND their farm production.

[xul]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Are you trying to say that you believe Biden was smart enough to entice Putin into invading Ukraine?

There is a reason why you see a warning sign when you are entering a bear country and you are warned that you need to back off not approach it when you encounter a bear.

When you approach a bear, from the bear's point of view, it's a provocation and it's a threat, regardless how good will you think that you have. If someone has at least some common sense of geopolitics, he knows I'm talking about the NATO expansion towards Russian border.

Just look this guy, an typical American I suppose, carrying a handgun and swaggering around before a bear (though it is just a cub😜) to show his strength. His action is a provocation though he doesn't directly punch the bear's face or kick its butt.

I guess you and many others here may ask: "Does the Russian invasion justify the needs of NATO expansion?" It seems like it does but actually it doesn't. Just as I have said, the expansion is just a provocation to drag Russia into a war with its neighbors to weaken it. It never meant for protection. If it does, now it's a great time to send NATO troops in to defend Ukraine, or was it the great time 3 years ago when the invasion begin? NATO doesn't need a treaty to start or involve in a war if it really want to.  

Biden kinds knew exactly what they were doing and how Russia would respond eventually to this unlimited NATO expansion. They set up the situation for both sides, just like those men who pulled two bulls towards each other to trigger a fight. They may offer food and water to the weaker bull to make it "stay strong, keep fighting😢", but never meant to joint the fight for a bull.

 

[User]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Are you trying to say that you believe Biden was smart enough to entice Putin into invading Ukraine?

No, he was to incompetent to do more to stop Putin before. 

[xul]

As for Ukrainian, though it sounds like a victim blame, I have to say that they should not get themselves involved into such kind of situation:

I dragged my son to watch Indiana Jones again just for letting him to watch this scene when he got his G1 license.

 

Edited February 26 by xul