August1991 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Trump is correct. We Canadians cannot buy decent cheese. We have no choice. Foreigners cannot sell us cheese. Our tariffs on dairy products are high. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 10 hours ago, August1991 said: Trump is correct. We Canadians cannot buy decent cheese. We have no choice. Foreigners cannot sell us cheese. Our tariffs on dairy products are high. Aren't you from Quebec? 2 Quote
herbie Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 Doesn't shop much that's for sure. I can buy Irish, N Zealand, Norwegian cheese at Costco almost as cheap as noName domestic cheddar at Bloblaws and GougeOn. And sure as hell isn't familiar w American cheese, the popular brands & cheeses are pitiful. You have to hunt down specialty makers and pay as much as you do here. Like I dare you - find an American major brand cheese as good as Armstrong Old Cheddar or Balderson's 2yr old at Costco. And BTW that gooey greasy slime on your pizza is usually a mix of US cheese mixed with their lame excuse for pepperoni to skirt around the import laws. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 (edited) If you think you could ever get decent cheese from the US you are dreaming. Their cheese is tasteless shit. Tillamook from Oregon is the most popular US cheese on the west coast. It isn't terrible but their extra sharp cheddar is about the equivalent of Balderson or Armstrong medium. Edited February 7 by Aristides Quote
August1991 Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 On 2/5/2025 at 10:51 AM, Black Dog said: Aren't you from Quebec? I am Canadian - North American. And I can't buy good cheese. The selection is so small. === BD, when I travel to Europe, the first thing I do is go to an ordinary grocery store and buy cheese. 29 minutes ago, Aristides said: If you think you could ever get decent cheese from the US you are dreaming. Their cheese is tasteless shit. ... I tend to agree. Quote
herbie Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 On 2/6/2025 at 5:44 PM, Aristides said: Tillamook from Oregon is the most popular US cheese on the west coast. About the only one I liked on the West Coast. And one of the best I ever has was Dragon's Breath from a cheese factory in Nova Scotia we toured. A runny blue cheese style. My favourite is Provolone Auricchio (aka Italian wedding cheese) that rots the roof of your mouth right off. Surprised to find a deli in Prince George that stocks it, even more surprised that it was only 10c/100g more than GougeOn sold their no name cheddar for. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 Cheese imports are limited for a few reasons but mostly our dairy and eggs are limited in order to protect our Industries against being overrun by Americans. The concern was that if we didn't our Industries would cease to exist because they couldn't be competitive on the scale of the Americans are and then the Americans would control whether or not we had certain foods. Problematic if a trade war ever broke out, which of course we're seeing now. I don't know how true it is that our own producers couldn't compete locally against the Americans, I have questions about that. But the fact is the Americans do subsidize their market quite a bit so even with everything else being equal our farmers would be at a disadvantage without that subsidy Quote
Barquentine Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 The U.S. government's dairy subsidies have led to a surplus of milk, which is then converted into cheeseThe government stores this cheese in converted limestone mines in Missouri. 1.4 billion lbs. 1.4 BILLION LBS.! They would love to flood our market with this crap. Quote
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: The U.S. government's dairy subsidies have led to a surplus of milk, which is then converted into cheeseThe government stores this cheese in converted limestone mines in Missouri. 1.4 billion lbs. 1.4 BILLION LBS.! They would love to flood our market with this crap. This is so backwards. Canada forces quotas to control prices, which drives up the cost of all dairy products. They have import quotas and pretty much outright block US from selling any dairy at all. What the US does is buy excess production in America at going market rates so the dairy industry doesn't completely collapse due to insanely cheap prices. Not even saying what America does is great, but it is certainly vastly better than what Canada is doing and that is why your prices are higher and why all the Canadians I know near the border purchase a ton of dairy products down here when they do along with picking up all their packages they have shipped to border communities... Quote
CdnFox Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 2 hours ago, User said: This is so backwards. Canada forces quotas to control prices, which drives up the cost of all dairy products. They have import quotas and pretty much outright block US from selling any dairy at all. What the US does is buy excess production in America at going market rates so the dairy industry doesn't completely collapse due to insanely cheap prices. Not even saying what America does is great, but it is certainly vastly better than what Canada is doing and that is why your prices are higher and why all the Canadians I know near the border purchase a ton of dairy products down here when they do along with picking up all their packages they have shipped to border communities... you just admitted that your own government has to subsidize the industry to prevent it from collapsing. That costs taxpayers money Our government regulates supply to protect the producers which results in a slightly higher cost. That costs the taxpayer money. In the end there's not much difference in that respect. The reason that we do it is to protect our supply. No offense but once in awhile you guys turn out to be bad neighbors as we are seeing right now and there are certain industries and things such as food that we want to be extremely careful is not in someone else's control. Eggs poultry and dairy are considered absolutely essential so those Industries are protected. Other Industries such as beef could compete on their own without any protection. It's that simple. This debate has been going on in Canada since the early seventies. Of course there are some significant downsides because it does cause producers to become lazy and inefficient and not fight to keep their pricing affordable to a degree. But it also allows for certain quality control things which the American products don't have. Tomato tamato i guess But either way it has been a sore point between America and Canada for 30 years now Quote
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