CdnFox Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Impeach and throw him out??? Like the last time?? He even got nailed for misconduct and yet....here he is LOL Last time they didn't have the senate. If they don't control both the house and the senate in sufficient numbers then the republicans will just vote against him and win. But, if as I said they wound up controlling the house and 2/3 of the senate which is entirely possible then they can absolutely impeach him and find him guilty and remove him. You know me well enough by now to know that a and bracket I don't say anything frivolous without knowing that I'm probably right and b) I'm pretty good at predicting things politically The upcoming midterms will put about 35 seats in play, the vast majority of which are republican. The democrats need 2/3rds of the seats in the senate to vote for impeachment, and about 3 or4 more votes in the house. The dems have just shy of 50 out of the 100 seats in the senate. So if 16 or so red seats are flipped, they'll be about where they need to be. That's less than half the seats up for grabs. IF there is a backlash against trump he could lose those seats, and if that happens there will be nothing ot stop the dems from kicking him out this time. C'mon man, we may butt heads from time to time but give me a little credit and do a bit of reading, i'm not perfect but odds are i'm probably right when it comes to political procedural stuff. Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: Last time they didn't have the senate. I.... C'mon man, we may butt heads from time to time but give me a little credit and do a bit of reading, i'm not perfect but odds are i'm probably right when it comes to political procedural stuff. The thing is, the US chose Trump this time , by a lot, and will continue to support him because the democrats just screwed up too badly. Americans love his lies and wlll keep supporting him. The other thing is, impeachment did not work last time and if you think it will again, I think you are imagining things. He was also charged and found guilty of 88 charges and got away with them (got his fines reduced too) . Along with 34 felony counts among others. He will not be impeached and will get away with everything, like he is now. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Moonbox Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: The thing is, the US chose Trump this time , by a lot, and will continue to support him because the democrats just screwed up too badly. Americans love his lies and wlll keep supporting him. He won by a lot in the college, but not in the popular vote, and his margins in many of the swing states was slim. 2 years can change a lot of minds, though I agree with most of the rest of what you're saying. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
ExFlyer Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 9 minutes ago, Moonbox said: He won by a lot in the college, but not in the popular vote, and his margins in many of the swing states was slim. 2 years can change a lot of minds, though I agree with most of the rest of what you're saying. The "college" has no impact on house and senate seats. As long as he has the hillbillys on his side, and it is really what districts are up for a vote, he will still be in power. He would have to really pi$$ off a lot of folks to lose too many seats. As I said, and is proven so far, he still has executive authority and power and will do as he pleases. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Dougie93 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 16 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Totally agree. Post-National State is the erasure of Canada. It goes hand in hand with the false narrative of Canada as genocidal when it was and remains perhaps the least violent, least oppressive, most harmonious society on Earth, probably also the wealthiest in terms of natural resources, education, and social safety net overall. Chretien and Harper understand this, but of course we lapsed into weakness by relying too much on government to take care of us, too much on America to defend us, too much on international organizations to tell us how to think and live. We also bought into dubious ideas about identity and radical activism. Canada has lapsed into socialist complacency. The courts and media have bought into the phoney overdone anti-Canadian woke-green rhetoric. We overspent on unaffordable programs, some of which just aren’t effective. We stopped asserting our rights, which our Constitution probably doesn’t enshrine properly. We don’t even have protection of property. Too much state intervention. Not enough energy and entrepreneurial spirit. Lagging productivity. Compromised healthcare. Screwed up priorities on defence and resource development. All of this can be turned around. Now it must be turned around or we stand no chance defending our interests against the interests of the behemoth to the south, unless we join the behemoth. the people whom are outraged by "51st State" are Laurentian Elites & Boomers ask any young person about it, they are not outraged Canada has raised at least two generations now; to hate Canada ; "No Pride In Genocide !" the Zoomers don't even live in a separate nation from America, because they live on Tik Tok and Zoomers are not the slightest bit interested in a Canadian culture the Zoomers have become completely Asian oriented, they are all about China & South Korea I do know some high school kids who joined the Militia ; they are good kids but they lament how soft & Woke the military is, they pine for the old school army if there was US-CAN citizenship ? There would be a flood of young people evacuating to America Quote
Moonbox Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 55 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: He would have to really pi$$ off a lot of folks to lose too many seats. As I said, and is proven so far, he still has executive authority and power and will do as he pleases. The congressional majorities are slim, as is the popular vote difference in most of the battleground districts. He has a lot of runway this early on (especially with Democrats in disarray), but voters also have short memories and I have trouble believing Republican Reps/Senators will support policies that doom them upon re-election. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Zeitgeist Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: the people whom are outraged by "51st State" are Laurentian Elites & Boomers ask any young person about it, they are not outraged Canada has raised at least two generations now; to hate Canada ; "No Pride In Genocide !" the Zoomers don't even live in a separate nation from America, because they live on Tik Tok and Zoomers are not the slightest bit interested in a Canadian culture the Zoomers have become completely Asian oriented, they are all about China & South Korea I do know some high school kids who joined the Militia ; they are good kids but they lament how soft & Woke the military is, they pine for the old school army if there was US-CAN citizenship ? There would be a flood of young people evacuating to America I would probably prefer US-CAN, simply called America, to Canada alone depending on what we can retain. For example, I don’t mind having US citizenship and a U.S. dollar and all the rights of statehood, but I can see the value in retaining much of our healthcare and low-cost pharmaceuticals, with the option to pay for private services. If it’s US citizenship then we need to be able to vote in federal elections, which I’m sure the Yanks don’t want. I’m also certain that Canadians won’t support the 2nd Amendment. I’m not sure I want the guns coming up either, though I see both sides of the argument. That makes the most viable options to either carry on independently, but we’re going to have to rely a lot more on our domestic market and do more domestic manufacturing, refining, etc, as well as diversity trade away from the U.S. (difficult), or we retain our sovereignty and border, but integrate fully on the free movement of goods, services and people, without federal voting rights for residents from the other country. The latter option seems the most realistic and promising, especially if we still try to expand markets and domestic manufacturing. However, we would need strong guarantees that such an agreement can’t simply be violated without good reasons. Bogus claims of national security by a president cannot ever again be grounds to impose tariffs on Canada. This is really the question going forward: More independence or more integration? The status quo is untenable. I’d love to roll the clock back to 2014 Canada, but much has changed and much change is required just to restore what we lost. Edited February 6 by Zeitgeist Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Bogus claims of national security by a president cannot ever again be grounds to impose tariffs on Canada. well the Liberals are certainly going out of their way to provoke the Trump Administration Liberal cabinet ministers sign letter accusing Trump plan of 'ethnic cleansing' Gaza Justice Minister Arif Viran and International Development Minister Ahmed Hussen say they support the government's response to Trump's proposal https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/liberal-cabinet-ministers-accuse-trumps-plan-of-ethnic-cleansing-gaza they of course welcome the Trade War to try to save their own political skins because of course the consequences won't come crashing down upon them tho I also welcome a Trade War ; with crisis comes opportunity ; chaos is a ladder Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: well the Liberals are certainly going out of their way to provoke the Trump Administration Liberal cabinet ministers sign letter accusing Trump plan of 'ethnic cleansing' Gaza Justice Minister Arif Viran and International Development Minister Ahmed Hussen say they support the government's response to Trump's proposal https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/liberal-cabinet-ministers-accuse-trumps-plan-of-ethnic-cleansing-gaza they of course welcome the Trade War to try to save their own political skins because of course the consequences won't come crashing down upon them tho I also welcome a Trade War ; with crisis comes opportunity ; chaos is a ladder Canada’s government, like its universities, is ideologically captured. Rather than hearing Trump’s vision for Gaza and Gazans, the knee-jerk reaction is to make claims of genocide against the U.S. It’s so predictable now. “Canada and the U.S. are settler-colonial genocidal.” The radicals influencing our institutions take no notice of the fact that in Canada the group that kept more slaves than anyone was Northwest Coast Indigenous or that many Muslim countries continue to oppress their own citizens. It took Trump waving a stick to remind everyone that there are consequences for irresponsible ideologies and misrepresentations. I still don’t think Trudeau gets it. Edited February 6 by Zeitgeist Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 (edited) 10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Canada’s government, like its universities, is ideologically captured. Rather than hearing Trump’s vision for Gaza and Gazans, the knee-jerk reaction is to make claims of genocide against the U.S. It’s so predictable now. “Canada and the U.S. are settler-colonial genocidal.” The radicals influencing our institutions take no notice of the fact that in Canada the group that kept more slaves than anyone was Northwest Coast Indigenous or that many Muslim countries continue to oppress their own citizens. It took Trump waving a stick to remind everyone that there are consequences for irresponsible ideologies and misrepresentations. I still don’t think Trudeau gets it. the Laurentian Elite ruling class as abandoned Noblesse Oblige choosing instead to play with fire let them burn in a conflagration of their own making therein as we would all be better off without them Edited February 7 by Dougie93 Quote
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