Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, suds said: Absolutely!! Canada is the weak link and a threat to not only its own national security but U.S. national security as well. Again it's a security issue. And you're right, so is Greenland. During WW2, the U.S. made a deal with Denmark that the U.S. would insure that Greenland would stay in allied hands. They built military bases and everything else that went with it to make sure the Nazi's didn't take it over and become a threat to the U.S. mainland. it's a mistake to think that this is all about Trump Trump is simply amplifying the American National Security Consensus view of Canada many previous Administrations have asked nicely that didn't work so now Trump is demanding Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, suds said: Again, pretty much the way I see it. this is not about trade Trump has declared a National Security State of Emergency he wants military forces deployed at scale soon as Mexico gave him troops deployed on the border ; Bingo Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: Everyone knows that Canada’s border isn’t the issue. Canada's lack of national security contribution is hardly limited to the border look at what Washington is after ; Greenland & the Panama Canal this is all about preparations for a war with China so the third element therein is the Canadian Arctic although the Administration wants North American internal security ramped up as well right or wrong, they are clearly convinced that war with China is inevitable at some point if Canada is not on the team, then Canada is No Man's Land it was the same thing in the Cold War with the Soviets the Mobile Striking Force becomes the Defence of Canada Force becomes the Special Service Force that was all about the Arctic, with the Canadian Airborne Regiment as the tip of the spear Edited February 3 by Dougie93 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: "I SERVED IN THE MILITARY!! THEREFORE I AM BETTER THAN YOU" ...and so did both my Grandparents in World War II. However, they never acted like they were superior to others. Then again, they never hid in a corner, when a dictator threatened us. If anything, I am starting to realise the need to allot more funds to our Armed Forces, if the end result is people who join the military end up like you. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: .My loyalties have never changed i AM Canadian.. the military oath of allegiance is not to the Canadian public only to the Commander-in-Chief I, [name], do swear [or, for a solemn affirmation, solemnly affirm] that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles the Third, King of Canada, his heirs and successors according to law. So help me God. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 49 minutes ago, suds said: Again, pretty much the way I see it. Canada ups the ante on border security Trump gives Canada the same deal as Mexico got Quote
PIK Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 7 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Personal reasons for not shopping at any store are up to that person. All I am saying is folks that blindly suggest boycotting stores with American parent do not realize what impact it can have on everyday Canadian workers. They are a preditor, that have killed off alot of small stores. Move to the edge of a small town and kill offs it businesses. And most of that money goes straight to Arkansas, to feed one family. 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Trump blinked FIFY Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canada ups the ante on border security Trump gives Canada the same deal as Mexico got Ooooh, I feel safer already. Mexico and Canada did what everyone knows works with Trump...tell him what he wants to hear and feed his ego. In any case, it's rather hilarious in light of all the skwak about the US defending us that now we'll be the ones defending them. Oh well we know it won't be long until Trump's diapers overflow again. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: FIFY give Trump a win FTW Quote
PIK Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Ooooh, I feel safer already. Mexico and Canada did what everyone knows works with Trump...tell him what he wants to hear and feed his ego. In any case, it's rather hilarious in light of all the skwak about the US defending us that now we'll be the ones defending them. Oh well we know it won't be long until Trump's diapers overflow again. But I have no problem beefing the border and rearming the military. Should have been done a long time ago. And now the people finally agree on that. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Just now, Dougie93 said: give Trump a win FTW You do realize it was Trump who backed off here right? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, PIK said: But I have no problem beefing the border and rearming the military. Should have been done a long time ago. And now the people finally agree on that. Trump still has to keep that 25% tariff threat hanging over Canadian politicians heads until there is some actual progress on rebuilding the Canadian military Quote
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 minute ago, PIK said: But I have no problem beefing the border and rearming the military. Should have been done a long time ago. And now the people finally agree on that. Yup, especially stationing our new improved military all along our southern border. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 17 minutes ago, eyeball said: FIFY Trump is well known for employing this negotiating strategy ; the Nixonian Madman theory but because he is, he has to keep upping the ante Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: You do realize it was Trump who backed off here right? whatever prevents millions of working stiffs from losing their jobs ; I'll take it I'll even give Trudeau credit for getting it done Quote
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: Trump is well known for employing this negotiating strategy ; the Nixonian Madman theory Except everyone is already convinced Trump is insane - he doesn't have to try the way Nixon did...which didn't really work out well for America either did it? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
suds Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Scott Moe had an interesting idea. He asked Trudeau to put CBSA under military command. That way the $2.6 billion ottawa spends on CBSA could then be reclassified as 'military spending'. 2 Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Just now, eyeball said: Except everyone is already convinced Trump is insane - he doesn't have to try the way Nixon did...which didn't really work out well for America either did it? he sure put the fear of God into Canada it worked once, so he's going to keep doing it next up will be Canada's 2% GDP defence spending followed by renegotiating NAFTA 1 minute ago, suds said: Scott Moe had an interesting idea. He asked Trudeau to put CBSA under military command. That way the $2.6 billion ottawa spends on CBSA could then be reclassified as 'military spending'. Canada already calculates its military spending like that, RCMP, Coast Guard, etc it doesn't work tho, NATO doesn't buy it Quote
PIK Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yup, especially stationing our new improved military all along our southern border. And the north. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
suds Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: he sure put the fear of God into Canada it worked once, so he's going to keep doing it next up will be Canada's 2% GDP defence spending followed by renegotiating NAFTA Canada already calculates its military spending like that, RCMP, Coast Guard, etc it doesn't work tho, NATO doesn't buy it Thanks. I was not aware of that and I guess Moe wasn't either. Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: There are a lot of clever people here, there and everywhere trying to make sense out of a senile sociopath’s ramblings. Lets get down to the root cause. Trump does not hate Canadians....he hates Justin Trudeau. He has openly said so. Back when Trump was president the first time Trudeau dissed him several times and contradicted what Trump said. I remember when Trump was on his aircraft and said he watches the news and Trudeau was full of crap. LOL Trump does not want us to be the 51st state, he is saying all that to pi$$ off Trudeau. Trump has the power and Trudeau is a lame duck and as a astute business guy, Trump just pound on him. Us normal everyday Canadians are just fodder for Trumps campaign against Justin. In my opinion, if Trudeau had stepped down and called an election, this would all have been moot but, he is hanging on and Trump is gonna trump him LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Just now, PIK said: And the north. Why? The US is the only country threatening us. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 minute ago, suds said: Thanks. I was not aware of that and I guess Moe wasn't either. its not so easy to do anyways you can't just militarize civilians like that they are unionized public employees they did not sign a contract of unlimited liability to defend the Crown unto death as necessary Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: it is what it is. This is what the people voted for when they voted justin in during the last election. Now we're going to get clobbered and Justin's going to pretend he's some sort of hero trying to defuse a situation that he himself created on multiple levels. Elections matter. Justin pi$$ed off Trump during his first presidency and, like and elephant, Trump never forgets and will keep on slamming Canada to get back at Justin. Had Justin just stepped down and called an election, this would all b gone but hey...Justin is still pi$$ing off Trump and we will pay. 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
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