Deluge Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) 461 down. Edited January 24 by Deluge 3 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 At that rate, if they arrested 461 everyday, they would only be getting 1/3 of the illegal arrivals that arrive in a year. So they wouldn't be keeping up. So this isn't an effective operation. Unless you count the show, the political show, that makes people like you excited. And what I'm learning is this is just an emotional performance from the administration so I guess it is effective... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States#:~:text=Illegal entry,-Main article%3A Illegal&text=There are an estimated half,the United States each year. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
gatomontes99 Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 22 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: At that rate, if they arrested 461 everyday, they would only be getting 1/3 of the illegal arrivals that arrive in a year. So they wouldn't be keeping up. So this isn't an effective operation. Unless you count the show, the political show, that makes people like you excited. And what I'm learning is this is just an emotional performance from the administration so I guess it is effective... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States#:~:text=Illegal entry,-Main article%3A Illegal&text=There are an estimated half,the United States each year. We are less than a week into the admin. They haven't had time to ramp up personell, build border walls and suppress border crossings. It's coming. Just be patient. But it is good to see these apprehensions. Just the perception that it's happening has a suppressive effect on illegal crossings. 3 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
NAME REMOVED Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: At that rate, if they arrested 461 everyday, they would only be getting 1/3 of the illegal arrivals that arrive in a year. So they wouldn't be keeping up. So this isn't an effective operation. Unless you count the show, the political show, that makes people like you excited. And what I'm learning is this is just an emotional performance from the administration so I guess it is effective... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States#:~:text=Illegal entry,-Main article%3A Illegal&text=There are an estimated half,the United States each year. This ICE operation in Boston, was well as the one in Chicago, was completely politically motivated. they are targeting Blue States. What I find interesting, is by reviewing data in regards to undocumented immigrants by states, Massachusetts has only 250,000 undocumented immigrants. That pales in comparison with California (2.2 million), Texas (1.6 million) and Florida (775,000). California will be ground zero, for this operation. There is a very real chance that ICE will meet great resistance from the State level, as well as Latinos and business leaders in general, considering how important the workers are to the economy. I have a feeling they will be targeting New York and New Jersey. Quote
ironstone Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 36 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: This ICE operation in Boston, was well as the one in Chicago, was completely politically motivated. they are targeting Blue States. What I find interesting, is by reviewing data in regards to undocumented immigrants by states, Massachusetts has only 250,000 undocumented immigrants. That pales in comparison with California (2.2 million), Texas (1.6 million) and Florida (775,000). California will be ground zero, for this operation. There is a very real chance that ICE will meet great resistance from the State level, as well as Latinos and business leaders in general, considering how important the workers are to the economy. I have a feeling they will be targeting New York and New Jersey. They are starting with those that have committed criminal acts in the US. Why are you opposed to having criminals removed? The angry man in the link posted above has 17 convictions. It is going to be very practically impossible to ever remove all of them. It was very easy for Biden and Harris to keep the border wide open, allowing thousand of unvetted people in every day. It's infinitely more difficult to track them down as the previous administration had no idea of where these unvetted people ended up. 2 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Deluge Posted January 24 Author Report Posted January 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: At that rate, if they arrested 461 everyday, they would only be getting 1/3 of the illegal arrivals that arrive in a year. So they wouldn't be keeping up. So this isn't an effective operation. Unless you count the show, the political show, that makes people like you excited. And what I'm learning is this is just an emotional performance from the administration so I guess it is effective... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States#:~:text=Illegal entry,-Main article%3A Illegal&text=There are an estimated half,the United States each year. It's a two way street, Mike: The number of entrants will plummet, and the apprehensions will pick up as they get better and more experienced. It's going to take a little time; we're not even a week into this thing. Edited January 24 by Deluge 1 Quote
Deluge Posted January 24 Author Report Posted January 24 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: This ICE operation in Boston, was well as the one in Chicago, was completely politically motivated. they are targeting Blue States. What I find interesting, is by reviewing data in regards to undocumented immigrants by states, Massachusetts has only 250,000 undocumented immigrants. That pales in comparison with California (2.2 million), Texas (1.6 million) and Florida (775,000). California will be ground zero, for this operation. There is a very real chance that ICE will meet great resistance from the State level, as well as Latinos and business leaders in general, considering how important the workers are to the economy. I have a feeling they will be targeting New York and New Jersey. Illegal aliens. They are illegal aliens, not undocumented immigrants. They are criminals, and the violent ones are going down first. I expect to see I.C.E. lassoing illegal aliens in every f*cking state. Quote
User Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: At that rate, if they arrested 461 everyday, they would only be getting 1/3 of the illegal arrivals that arrive in a year. So they wouldn't be keeping up. So this isn't an effective operation. Unless you count the show, the political show, that makes people like you excited. And what I'm learning is this is just an emotional performance from the administration so I guess it is effective... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States#:~:text=Illegal entry,-Main article%3A Illegal&text=There are an estimated half,the United States each year. First, what numbers are you using that arrive in a year? Because part of this is also a return to the Trump policies of making people wait in Mexico and empowering the Border Patrol to actually prevent illegal entries. They have started the wall back up too. Illegal entries are radically down since Trump took office. Second, that is only the start. As Tom Homan has said, they will be ramping this up. Third, This "political show" will also go to deter a lot more people from making the journey when the know they can't just schedule an appointment with the app on their phone to be let in like they could with Biden. So yes, this is going to be an effective operation and far more effective than anything Biden was doing. It already is. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, User said: 1. First, what numbers are you using that arrive in a year? 2. Because part of this is also a return to the Trump policies of making people wait in Mexico and empowering the Border Patrol to actually prevent illegal entries. They have started the wall back up too. Illegal entries are radically down since Trump took office. 3. Second, that is only the start. 4. So yes, this is going to be an effective operation and far more effective than anything Biden was doing. It already is. 1. Your question is valid. Let me double check... from the Wiki article I cited "There are an estimated half million illegal entries into the United States each year" 2. Also valid - the number cited might go down 3. Also valid, the number of arrests could go up 4. Well Biden's administration didn't even try to deport so-called "low level" offenders so it already is Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
User Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Your question is valid. Let me double check... from the Wiki article I cited "There are an estimated half million illegal entries into the United States each year" Notice something here? Biden is not President anymore. A return to Trump era policies alone and erasing what Biden has done will dramatically reduce these numbers. 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 2. Also valid - the number cited might go down No reason to think it will not based on the evidence. 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 3. Also valid, the number of arrests could go up No reason to think they will not, based on the evidence. 4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 4. Well Biden's administration didn't even try to deport so-called "low level" offenders so it already is Glad we can agree that this effective and is not just a show. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 1 hour ago, User said: Glad we can agree that this effective and is not just a show. I measure effectiveness against what was promised. One of the criticisms of trump is he makes Grand promises, such as to end the war in Russia within 24 hours. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted January 24 Author Report Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I measure effectiveness against what was promised. One of the criticisms of trump is he makes Grand promises, such as to end the war in Russia within 24 hours. Hey, better than fighting proxy wars and flinging the border gates wide open. Quote
User Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I measure effectiveness against what was promised. One of the criticisms of trump is he makes Grand promises, such as to end the war in Russia within 24 hours. That is quite the bait and switch there. So, now that you are moving the goal posts on how you are going to define what is effective, then... what was the promise Trump made you are measuring this against? Quote
Nationalist Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, User said: That is quite the bait and switch there. So, now that you are moving the goal posts on how you are going to define what is effective, then... what was the promise Trump made you are measuring this against? @Michael Hardner is simply mud-slinging. Its hardly worth replying to. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
NAME REMOVED Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 (edited) ICE harassing Native Americans. Sad, but this was to be expected. Edited January 25 by DUI_Offender Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 False story. In a statement to KNAU, ICE says it hasn’t been active in Flagstaff or on the Navajo Nation in the last week and that officers don’t target individuals based on the color of their skin, their language or ethnicity. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Deluge Posted January 25 Author Report Posted January 25 4 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: ICE harassing Native Americans. Sad, but this was to be expected. Where's your source, comrade? We need more info. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: False story. In a statement to KNAU, ICE says it hasn’t been active in Flagstaff or on the Navajo Nation in the last week and that officers don’t target individuals based on the color of their skin, their language or ethnicity. Any updates on the Syrian terrorist phone that a former conservative gadfly happened to find in the middle of the desert? Quote
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