Insanity is what it looks. Reality is real. Truth matters

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I get vindication everyday, and I never get triumph.

I feel like I've been ripped off.

If triumph and vindication were stimulants I guess the former would be like crack cocaine compared to coffee.

With crack the first ones often free and coffee is refilled at no charge.... notwithstanding the tip.

Don't forget coffee also provides health benefits. You're an optimist so....

 

[WestCanMan]

On 1/23/2025 at 10:54 AM, myata said:

For a while now, America boasted several characteristics and features in its social life and politics that kept others in the sane world puzzled, baffled and scratching their heads: no but that can't be right. Miracles don't happen. Something will have to give. No, no America pressed on, look we can throw at it whatever we like and however much we fancy and it's bound to stand right here and not as much as shake.

Big bucks and democratic politics: don't mix. The table is just too skewed.

Outrageously priced basic medications and generally health care. Makes zero sense in the modern democratic world. Why does it continue? Simple: big money in politics and concentration of political and media influence.

Big money and media ownership: slogans aren't enough to ensure objectivity of information.

Mass gun ownership: the rest of the democratic world combined doesn't come close to one country by the count of mass shootings. Gun checks in public schools, really?

The cost of public education, including post secondary: just insane.

And the final one, most recently: the assault on the objective truth, the reality itself under the duplicitous and deceitful slogans of "freedom" it has nothing to do with.

Economy and military power, the great facade contributed to influencing people to question these doubts. Wishful thinking, progressive humanity's long time companion played not a small role. But no: miracles don't happen. The foundations of democracy were strong built by generations of thinking and caring citizens to support a better future for their posterity. They withstood crises and wars. But nothing will stand to apathy, absence of thought and care and indifference. As a drying stream, the last drops of democracy are dripping and drying away. And if it could happened to a land this rich and generous this is a stern lesson to everybody: don't follow in that path. Truth matters. Objective reality exists. Big money and democratic politics don't mix. If if doesn't look right or outright insane that's what it is there are no propaganda-driven, dumb-down "explanations": someone just wants us dumb to control and make more dough this is what it always comes down to. This responsibility is bestowed upon us with the role and privilege of being free citizens. And the moment we forget and abandon it, the democracy will go.

America is falling behind on staples, trivial things in the developed democratic world: great public transit; affordable quality healthcare; high-speed trains; clean and healthy natural environment. Purses burst with billions and trillions, propaganda is pumped on the ears of dumbing by the hour pueblo yes it's great that you don't have it and can't have it, it's all for you you should be happy to pay more and outrageously for your basic medications. But look, the reality is real. A grandma in Spain takes a high speed train - right now, that will take her 300 km in just over an hour, at a reasonable price too. You don't have it and you can't even dream of having it. This is the reality of the 21st century America the land of what a trillion bucks in someone's pocket. No words can dismiss or falsify it: the facts.

 

[myata]

I cannot understand people who post random links as "proof" of anything. Are they the same one who respond positively to a total stranger in the street, "here I've got this pure gold pin for only $10 just for you"? With this kind of mindset democracy is impossible. Not a chance in a million, just zero. F@ck yourself up success rate 100.00%.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, User said:

Define general welfare. 

 

I will let you define it. I'm probably not going to challenge it. I'll probably just look at what you are thinking

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

If triumph and vindication were stimulants I guess the former would be like crack cocaine compared to coffee.

With crack the first ones often free and coffee is refilled at no charge.... notwithstanding the tip.

Don't forget coffee also provides health benefits. You're an optimist so....

 

I live in Toronto. Refills are $4. 

Everything sucks

[User]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2 hours ago, User said:

 

I will let you define it. I'm probably not going to challenge it. I'll probably just look at what you are thinking

None of this was my argument.

If you don’t wish to provide anything specific, fine.

my point is made, that you are not offering anything specific here. 

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

Lol...just wait until the triumph wears off and the long slow grind reasserts itself.

Then what will you do?

Win more.

[eyeball]

21 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Win more.

That'll be the craving asserting itself after the initial rush wears off. Best not get too used to the feeling.

[Nationalist]

42 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That'll be the craving asserting itself after the initial rush wears off. Best not get too used to the feeling.

There's already been more sucess than Brandon's whole 4 years.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

Lol...just wait until the triumph wears off and the long slow grind reasserts itself.

Then what will you do?

I told you...win more.

[Michael Hardner]

13 hours ago, User said:

None of this was my argument.

If you don’t wish to provide anything specific, fine.

my point is made, that you are not offering anything specific here. 

I'm not arguing, I'm asking you how you think about this.

If you don't want to respond that's fair.

Not every discussion is oppositional.

[User]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm not arguing, I'm asking you how you think about this.

If you don't want to respond that's fair.

Not every discussion is oppositional.

Here were my thoughts:

"Nope, the battle has not been won. We are currently winning at the moment though and will at a minimum have great wins for the next 4 years, likely even 8 more. Congress needs to solidify more of this in legislation. States and local governments are doing that now as well. Except for the more left wing ones, they are going the opposite direction. 

So, not moving on. 

Which billionaires? Most of them are in fact helping us, which is why they are billionaires. They are not wealthy because they came into your house and stole from you. Most are wealthy because they have created things of great value to society, and people willingly give them money in exchange for the products they offer to better their lives. 

There are a lot of things, more than we can ever discuss here in a lifetime, that can be better or worse. The way those are all measured would be subjective or different based on each persons idea of what is better or worse. Some would be more hard and objective truths... so, what in particular are we talking about?"

Of which, you responded only to this:

"...so, what in particular are we talking about?"

If you were interested in hearing my thoughts, you skipped over almost all of them to respond with an entirely too vague comment where I asked you to be more specific, and now you say you want to hear my thoughts.

See above.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, User said:

 

Of which, you responded only to this:

"...so, what in particular are we talking about?"

If you were interested in hearing my thoughts, you skipped over almost all of them to respond with an entirely too vague comment where I asked you to be more specific, and now you say you want to hear my thoughts.

See above.

I didn't skip them, I read them and had nothing to add.

I want to know how you will know that economic policies are working.  What metrics define success or failure?

[eyeball]

On 1/26/2025 at 6:56 AM, A Freeman said:

our Creator has expressly prohibited the use of pharmaceutical poisons/witchcraft/witches' brew

Oh FFS...not another one.

[User]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I didn't skip them, I read them and had nothing to add.

You say you want my thoughts... but then you ignore my thoughts. They had plenty to add in regards to your comments. 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I want to know how you will know that economic policies are working.  What metrics define success or failure?

OK. I have no interest in changing the subject to try to explain something I never spoke about in the first place when you already ignored what I said in response to what you were already trying to talk about. 

Thanks, no thanks. 

[Michael Hardner]

51 minutes ago, User said:

1. You say you want my thoughts... but then you ignore my thoughts. They had plenty to add in regards to your comments. 

2. OK. I have no interest in changing the subject to try to explain something I never spoke about in the first place when you already ignored what I said in response to what you were already trying to talk about. 

Thanks, no thanks. 

1. Well I just had no response.  Isn't that ok?  If I had a major take or disagreement with your perspective I would say so.  I don't understand why this is a sticking point.  I don't expect you to comment on everything that I say.

 

2. Why do I detect hostility in this response?  I sure didn't intend any.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well I just had no response.  Isn't that ok?  If I had a major take or disagreement with your perspective I would say so.  I don't understand why this is a sticking point.  I don't expect you to comment on everything that I say.

It is no more a sticking point to me than it is to you in ignoring them and trying to get my thoughts on something else instead. 

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. Why do I detect hostility in this response?  I sure didn't intend any.

I have no idea why you detect hostility. This is an online forum where we write things, and one of the oldest sayings is that reading someones tone is hard, so you shouldn't presume to know someones tone. 

I am merely responding to your question and explaining why I have no interest in it. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

42 minutes ago, User said:

1. It is no more a sticking point to me than it is to you in ignoring them and trying to get my thoughts on something else instead. 

2 I have no idea why you detect hostility. This is an online forum where we write things, and one of the oldest sayings is that reading someones tone is hard, so you shouldn't presume to know someones tone. 

3. I am merely responding to your question and explaining why I have no interest in it. 

1. Ok.

2. Ok.

3. Ok, you don't have to answer of course.

[A Freeman]

The reason for the two-party political system in the United States is to provide we the people is to DIVIDE us and mesmerize us with the ILLUSION of choice.

 

That way, people can be divided and distracted by endless arguments over which party is best, and which party policies they support, etc., while the international banking cartel continues to manipulate BOTH parties into doing whatever they (their paymasters) tell them to do. Endless wars, FAKE "pandemics", moral rot, political corruption, rampant injustice, increasing poverty and the crime that poverty, injustice and oppression spawns are somehow now widely accepted in the land of the fee and the home of the slave.

 

It should be self-evident after almost 250 years of this charade that demoncrazy "democracy" doesn't work. The gap between the rich and the poor has steadily increased throughout the history of the U.S., bringing us to the situation we find ourselves in today, where the richest 1% of the country owns half of the country's net worth.

 

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."

- Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe