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3 hours ago, West said:

I have no doubt you believe Trump is Hitler. Hence my previous comment about the radicalization by the content you consume earlier. 

^This makes no sense, since I have NEVER SAID ^THIS. Do you even understand what "parallels" means?

Posted
7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Cannon isn't on the SCOTUS, dummy. You claimed the SCOTUS ruled and now you're just posting DRIVEL

This was a reference to a different question. 

I'll tell you what. Please provide me with what you want me to read that you think will help me get to your position on Trump. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, West said:

Okay. Point me to the actual full speech in context and I'll take a listen. I've come to the conclusion that the media often selectively edits clips out of context to make a point 

Study the early history of Hitler and see if you can spot the similarities.

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After leading a failed coup in 1923, he turns the Nazis into a legitimate, mainstream party and plots to overthrow Germany's political elite.

 

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I'm not participating in this discussion any further than pointing out that in the OP's interpretation "information" means any combination of symbols, verbal, digital, written etc regardless of and without any relation to its veracity and verifiability.

A rational individual has abilities to differentiate/classify such "information" into classes of plausibility, from "verified fact" to "deliberate untruth". For the OP, this difference has no meaning. I don't see any point in a discussion under such premises.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
9 minutes ago, myata said:

I'm not participating in this discussion any further than pointing out that in the OP's interpretation "information" means any combination of symbols, verbal, digital, written etc regardless of and without any relation to its veracity and verifiability.

A rational individual has abilities to differentiate/classify such "information" into classes of plausibility, from "verified fact" to "deliberate untruth". For the OP, this difference has no meaning. I don't see any point in a discussion under such premises.

Actually it's more a discussion on how one comes to form moral and philosophical conclusions which is basically the discussions that are had on an internet political forum. 

If you want it to be strictly academic I imagine we will run into the same issues of the same people not accepting studies that would go against their worldview. Essentially making this pretty much useless

 

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If there's no difference between truth and falsity than any "conclusion" can be true and wrong at the same time. You can argue forever about nothing. Just dumb but what would one expect with such a premise?

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted

Interesting thread.

I have said many times that I take in all available information and then rely on my own senses to guide me.

I do have a question for our resident Libbies though. 

Has anything Brandon has done, produced positive results for the American people?

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Interesting thread.

I have said many times that I take in all available information and then rely on my own senses to guide me.

I do have a question for our resident Libbies though. 

Has anything Brandon has done, produced positive results for the American people?

the strongest economy is human history?

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thought this adds nicely to the conversation. form The Hill.

Fake news hits home: My side of the interview that never happened

"A colleague sent me a link to an article that featured me as a subject matter expert on space medicine. The article stated that I was interviewed to discuss how lessons learned from astronaut health in microgravity could be relevant to living longer and healthier on Earth. 

My titles at NASA and at several academic institutions as well as quotes were highlighted throughout this article.

And it was all fake. "

Posted
8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

If you think NOTHING was good, that may be a sign you're a partisan.  All admins do some good.

Yes I am rather partisan Mike. That's what happens when you watch one side of the political spectrum take power and proceed to impose nothing but destruction on the citizens.

Why not answer the question? What "good" has Brandon and his admin produced?

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
On 1/17/2025 at 6:53 AM, Nationalist said:

Yes I am rather partisan Mike. That's what happens when you watch one side of the political spectrum take power and proceed to impose nothing but destruction on the citizens.

Why not answer the question? What "good" has Brandon and his admin produced?

Finally, we agree! Like how the economy was flagging under Bush 1 and Clinton revived under Clinton. Or how Bush 2 squandered a balanced budget, spiked deficits and handed the economy to Obama in complete shambles before the Obama recovery. Or how Obama gave Trump a strong economy and Trump spiked deficits and left Biden a dumpster fire. And now Biden is handing Trump another strong economy. 

It's a pattern all right.

I wonder how long it will take the Republicans to fark it up this time? With the tariff plan, not very long.

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On 1/17/2025 at 3:53 AM, Nationalist said:

Yes I am rather partisan Mike. That's what happens when you watch one side of the political spectrum take power and proceed to impose nothing but destruction on the citizens.

Why not answer the question? What "good" has Brandon and his admin produced?

IRA has provided a bonanza of infrastructure spending (to reduce COSTS and INFLATION through EFFICIENCY) and JOBS in renewable energy. 

I know you're not a fan of RE, but it really does COST LESS than fossil fuels these days. 

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