eyeball Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 4 hours ago, User said: Where are you getting the pump infrastructure to send sea water up to these tanks in the middle of a fire in time to help put out fires in progress... when they already have an overwhelmed pump system incapable of sending water up to these tanks... AND these systems are fresh water systems used by homes... so you don't design them to use sea water. If you have time to design them to use sea water, you have time to design a large enough fresh water system. Oh, well you do need all this stuff in place in advance. Like experts have said. There was nothing LA could do because...all the issues mentioned above, farmers, smelts, and no end of whiny right wingers complaining about having to pay for something they think is for bullshit. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 23 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, too bad when the need to spend money for all this stuff is even slightly related to climate change it gets shouted down by because it's too woke, farmers start screaming bloody murder, smelts...it's always something. You will say any lie. We are talking about LA, run by the most left wing folks whose budgets can be as woke and climate change friendly as their hearts desire. Quote
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 32 minutes ago, eyeball said: Oh, well you do need all this stuff in place in advance. Like experts have said. There was nothing LA could do because...all the issues mentioned above, farmers, smelts, and no end of whiny right wingers complaining about having to pay for something they think is for bullshit. I already explained what could be done in advance. Enough of your stupid dishonesty. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Sure, too bad when the need to spend money for all this stuff is even slightly related to climate change it gets shouted down by because it's too woke, in CALIFORNIA!?!?! Climate change got "shouted down" because its "too woke" in California. That's your position is it. Tell me you're clueless without telling me. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, User said: We are talking about LA, run by the most left wing folks whose budgets can be as woke and climate change friendly as their hearts desire. At least as woke as Trudeau who bought an oil pipeline and built another alongside it. You don't seem to understand that when close to half your population thinks something is bullshit that costs a fortune it takes the wind out of any government to spend anything on it. 1 hour ago, User said: I already explained what could be done in advance. Enough of your stupid dishonesty. It would certainly help but the reservoirs they had were all full when this started. There really was nothing anyone could do when the winds blew as hard as they did. Between that, Jewish space lasers, weather control satellites and an assortment of lefties what are you gonna do? Have you ever considered Pinochet's approach? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 45 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Climate change got "shouted down" because its "too woke" in California. When funding for shit that's unpopular gets shouted down is when politicians pay the most attention. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 31 minutes ago, eyeball said: At least as woke as Trudeau who bought an oil pipeline and built another alongside it. You don't seem to understand that when close to half your population thinks something is bullshit that costs a fortune it takes the wind out of any government to spend anything on it. You clearly have no clue about American politics, or California politics, or LA politics let alone anything about fighting fires. You are not an honest person to engage with. Quote
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, User said: You clearly have no clue about American politics, or California politics, or LA politics... It's all a FUBAR pile of shit, what else do I need to know? 1 hour ago, User said: ...let alone anything about fighting fires. You are not an honest person to engage with. Yes I am and that's why you always run away and hide when we engage. But yes, I was a volunteer firefighter on a department in a community surrounded by thousands of sq km of dense forest. Then there's the years I spent working in the bush as a foreman and project manager involving oversight of 15-25 man crews, mobilizing, equipment, and vehicles including helicopters, training, logistics, first aid etc. Gathering up and dealing with material from a forest's floor was pretty much exactly what we did. And what was it again in terms of real world background, experience or anything else that might give anyone the sense you have a clue about this topic of discussion? Be honest now. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: It's all a FUBAR pile of shit, what else do I need to know? I don't have enough time in my life to type out everything you need to know. How about you start with getting some more integrity. Quote
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 38 minutes ago, User said: I don't have enough time in my life to type out everything you need to know. You have nothing to say that I need to know. 40 minutes ago, User said: How about you start with getting some more integrity. What do you mean exactly? You're calling me a liar without a single shred of evidence. How about you go fùck yourself? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: You have nothing to say that I need to know. Then don't ask me stupid questions. 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: What do you mean exactly? You're calling me a liar without a single shred of evidence. How about you go fùck yourself? Every step of the way I have called out your dishonesty on here. Quote
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) 8 minutes ago, User said: Every step of the way I have called out your dishonesty on here. With no more evidence than you have integrity. Every single time. It's called running away and hiding. You know the drill. Edited January 15 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hodad Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 14 hours ago, Aristides said: Funnily enough we have the same thing in Canada and it's called equalization. Albertans are always b*tching about it. Right wingers are always going on about high taxation levels in California. Maybe they wouldn't be so high if they weren't sending so much money to the rest of the country. Bunch of ungrateful c*nts. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 3 hours ago, eyeball said: When funding for shit that's unpopular gets shouted down is when politicians pay the most attention. What's that got to do with your claim that properly preparing for a fire that they knew was coming was shouted down because of climate change and wokeism in California? You make these bullshit statements and then when you're challenged on them you run around like chicken little. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: What's that got to do with your claim that properly preparing for a fire that they knew was coming was shouted down because of climate change and wokeism in California? We all know it's coming. I didn't say it was shouted down. I said that politicians knew it would be shouted down if woke concerns about climate change were the reason for s̶t̶e̶a̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ spending taxpayers hard earned money - they simply found it easier to do so on other stuff and took the path of least resistance. So is there any evidence of right wing protesters calling for money to be spent preparing for something that might not happen because of something they don't give a shit about? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: We all know it's coming. No, these warnings are specific to a specific area and we're given to a specific group that has specific responsibilities for that area. I doubt very much you received or read any specific reports dealing with preparedness and recommended changes in Southern California for firefighting Quote I didn't say it was shouted down. I said that politicians knew it would be shouted down if woke concerns about climate change were the reason for s̶t̶e̶a̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ spending taxpayers hard earned money - they simply found it easier to do so on other stuff and took the path of least resistance. Well that's not what you said and even if it was what you said I doubt very much the politicians in california especially Southern California believed that it wasn't worth bringing something up because it would get shouted down for any reason involving wokeism or climate change or the like. Quote So is there any evidence of right wing protesters calling for money to be spent preparing for something that might not happen because of something they don't give a shit about? There's no evidence that the right played a role at all in the decisions in Southern California. In fact it's an extremely left-wing area. The politicians tend to be left wing, it votes left-wing federally, it is seen as a hotbed of left-wing activity. Which is why it's Highly Questionable but you would claim that they didn't move forward because of fears of people criticizing them for wokeism and left-wing thinking regarding climate change of all things Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No, these warnings are specific to a specific area and we're given to a specific group that has specific responsibilities for that area. I doubt very much you received or read any specific reports dealing with preparedness and recommended changes in Southern California for firefighting You mean like the report I posted. It was ignored too by the same people. 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well that's not what you said and even if it was what you said I doubt very much the politicians in california especially Southern California believed that it wasn't worth bringing something up because it would get shouted down for any reason involving wokeism or climate change or the like. So why didn't it get done? I saw Mel Gibson gibbering something about conspiracies to Laura Ingraham the other day, is that what you mean? Apparently there's a lot of that going around these days. 12 minutes ago, CdnFox said: There's no evidence that the right played a role at all in the decisions in Southern California. Why not? They've had right wing governments before. 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Which is why it's Highly Questionable but you would claim that they didn't move forward because of fears of people criticizing them for wokeism and left-wing thinking regarding climate change of all things Well don't forget you got the Mel, Jeff and Arnold's of the world influencing impressionable minds. Politicians can't be too careful. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Venandi Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) IIt appears there is a correlation between obesity and global warming, kind of a chicken and egg thing. Global warming causes people to get fat (too much ice cream on hot days I guess) and fat people contribute to global warming through excessive consumption (about 20% more than fit people). Given the epidemic of obesity, fat people are now the leading cause of global warming. So... instead of cleaning up brush piles and investing in early detection, aerial application, LAFD manning, electrical grid updates and the like, all that's needed is remedial fitness training for fatties (RFTFF). Look Robo... I can do it too, and here's video evidence that I'm right DUH. In the last 5 years this video has been viewed almost 200 times so it must be true DUH Prove this isn't causal DUH Edited January 15 by Venandi Quote
Venandi Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 7 hours ago, eyeball said: So is there any evidence of right wing protesters calling for money to be spent preparing for something that might not happen because of something they don't give a shit about? I care about you... see ya at the gym. Quote
Venandi Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) Robo... here's something else for your superior intellect to chew on with regard to child obesity levels DUH This is all your fault DUH According to the results of a longitudinal cohort analysis published in SSM – Population Health, U.S. researchers found that healthy children (under age 10) were increasingly likely to voice conservative beliefs as older adults (over age 64). This difference arose independently of academic history, personality, or later-life health. The association was propelled by children with better health, and childhood health may somehow impact social forces resulting in adult political attitudes. OK, I'm done now... any chance of a return rational considerations here? Edited January 15 by Venandi Quote
Nationalist Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 12 hours ago, eyeball said: It would certainly help but the reservoirs they had were all full when this started. There really was nothing anyone could do when the winds blew as hard as they did. Must you lie in every post? The Santa Ynez Reservoir was empty when the Pallisades fire started. 2 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 13 hours ago, eyeball said: You mean like the report I posted. It was ignored too by the same people. That youd' never read till now? Sure. Quote So why didn't it get done? Too busy focusing time and money/resources on sheltering illegal mexicans and other woke policy, not enough focus on their core responsibilities. Which is the same thing that happens whenever you lefties get into power. You could say the same of trudeau quite easily. Quote Why not? They've had right wing governments before. Not in the last 30 years or more. Arnie was technically a republican but ran very much on the left. But i love that you're still trying to blame conservatives for what the woke left has broken Quote Well don't forget you got the Mel, Jeff and Arnold's of the world influencing impressionable minds. Politicians can't be too careful. California is very left. And they are a mess, financially and business is fleeing the state and they are not focusing on core issues which means they get more disasters and on and on it goes. Whenever the left gets into power this is what we see. It's just a matter of time Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 8 hours ago, Nationalist said: Must you lie in every post? The Santa Ynez Reservoir was empty when the Pallisades fire started. It was out of commission because it was under maintenance at the time. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: But i love that you're still trying to blame conservatives for what the woke left has broken While you try to blame every single glitch in the Matrix on the left? Sure kid. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 Just now, eyeball said: While you try to blame every single glitch in the Matrix on the left? I don't of course but i'm sure lying about it helps you sleep with your fragile ego at night Quote Sure kid. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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