myata Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) The future of freedom in the world can be at stake. No pathetics and/or exaggerations at this time and in this reality. Someone will have to stand with it, and for it. Or it may just decide to leave this world of ours. This is a hard call and a tall order. But the Time can bring those up once in a while as its known to do. And to that challenge there are excuses. Only two answers are allowed: win and gain a pass into the future; or fall back, to the past. Edited January 9 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
NAME REMOVED Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 Have solace in the fact that if America ever follows through with their threats of annexing Canada, Europe will provide us with Billions of dollars in arms, necessities, intelligence, and even military personnel, even greater the Ukraine. 1 Quote
xul Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 (edited) When an orange fur cat comes in a rat infested barn, all of these would-be rat leaders, they call themselves litter Napoleon, litter Churchill, litter Hitler...., begin fussing around like the world is going to end.😜 After all, they are not what they think they are. They are just some tiny, powerless, vulnerable rats.😢 Reporter: Mr. President, will Salmon be involved when you have the dinner with Putin? Trump: They will be involved. They will be on the menu... Edited February 18 by xul Quote
August1991 Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 The Soviet Union is no more. Germany is united. Since NATO defeated the Soviet Union, we have no need for NATO. ===== Let's rethink things. Quote
Videospirit Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 NATO certainly needs to prepare for the possibility of a future without the United States. We need to diversify our logistics and supply lines. We cannot solely rely on the United States for any aspect of our military production, we must be able to produce everything ourselves in the event the united states chooses to abandon us. None of the NATO nations could stand up to the United States on our own if it chose to start annexing nato nations by force. Putin is eying eastern Europe with greed. Alliances are more necessary than ever. Quote
500channelsurfer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 EU is very fractured and does not have a good record of efficiency. Its governments are often coalitions due to their electoral systems, and prone to collapses and crises. Its members are many and of widely varying political ideologies. The US is continuing the trend of ending the previous global order, which began with Putin annexing pieces of Ukraine, by diverging from recent Western foreign policies. When the US becomes more isolationist and more and more intricate and overlapping alliances develop, the world becomes more unstable. Should Europe manage to get itself together into a formidable force, this would result in a tri-axis world, among the most dangerous of international situations. Quote
I am Groot Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) On 1/9/2025 at 12:45 PM, NAME REMOVED said: Have solace in the fact that if America ever follows through with their threats of annexing Canada, Europe will provide us with Billions of dollars in arms, necessities, intelligence, and even military personnel, even greater the Ukraine. No, it won't. The only reason it could provide Ukraine with all that is because they had been building up their military prior to the war and were able to stand off the Russian invasion and even push them back from their capital. They had over 700k active military. That would not happen in Canada. An invasion would be over in a day. We have no military to speak of and what we do have are poorly armed and equipped. Edited February 20 by I am Groot Quote
I am Groot Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 On 2/19/2025 at 12:01 AM, August1991 said: The Soviet Union is no more. Germany is united. Since NATO defeated the Soviet Union, we have no need for NATO. ===== Let's rethink things. I think you should apply your last sentence to the second one. Because the second one lacks a little something... Quote
August1991 Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 On 1/9/2025 at 9:59 AM, myata said: The future of freedom in the world can be at stake. No pathetics and/or exaggerations at this time and in this reality. Someone will have to stand with it, and for it. Or it may just decide to leave this world of ours. Disagree strongly. Europe is facing a Summer 1914 situation. This is not the 1930s. Quote
eyeball Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 13 hours ago, August1991 said: This is not the 1930s. Oh yes it is. Trump has made it's alliances contingent on control of its allies resources. He's turned America's security assurances into a Public Enemy Era style protection racket. If the agreement they're trying to blackmail Zelenskyy into signing is any indication America wants half. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
500channelsurfer Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 Merz seems to believe Europe can stand as a power on its own. Perhaps this is why Zelensky is not hurrying into any agreement yet. Quote
500channelsurfer Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn04551n6wpo The European leaders are still fixated on US involvement as a requirement to be involved in solving the Ukraine crisis. They are not ready to stand on their own. Trump is right that we all need to exceed 2% GDP in military spending immediately. The US has a strong history of isolationism and it was not logical for Western Europe to assume it would be pre-eminent forever. Instead of NATO expanding eastward, a different security agreement should have been set up when countries east of Poland began joining. Hopefully they will realize this and follow-through with action. Quote
August1991 Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 On 2/24/2025 at 7:37 PM, 500channelsurfer said: Merz seems to believe Europe can stand as a power on its own. Perhaps this is why Zelensky is not hurrying into any agreement yet. Imagine. We in America get along - in peace. Manitoba does not attack South Dakota. Russia, France, England, Germany, Prussia... whatever. Get along. Quote
Scott75 Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 11 hours ago, August1991 said: Imagine. We in America get along - in peace. Manitoba does not attack South Dakota. Russia, France, England, Germany, Prussia... whatever. Get along. Ukraine and Russia were getting along relatively well, until 2014. A good article on what happened then: https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/24/timeline-euromaidan-the-original-ukraine-crisis/ Quote
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