The FBI's Odd Fascination with The White Bogeyman

[WestCanMan]

27 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Yeah you keep saying that but it's horseshit every time. 

Yeah, you keep trying to deny that BLM was engaged in political violence/terrorism but WE ALL F'ING SAW IT, dummy. 

What do you categorize it as then, Black Dummy? Racial violence? Hate crimes? 

[Black Dog]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah, you keep trying to deny that BLM was engaged in political violence/terrorism but WE ALL F'ING SAW IT, dummy. 

No stupid. I acknowledged that some of what went down during that summer could be considered terrorism or insurrection. What I'm disputing is your nonsense claim that 99% of all political violence in the last 10 years was BLM or "antifa" which is farcical.

[WestCanMan]

26 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No stupid. I acknowledged that some of what went down during that summer could be considered terrorism or insurrection. What I'm disputing is your nonsense claim that 99% of all political violence in the last 10 years was BLM or "antifa" which is farcical.

It wasn't just 2020, dude. 

BLM was rioting for the last half of 2014, all of 2015, all of 2016, and the very early part of 2017. 

On top of the riots, there was the scalping of a retarded kid plus several mass-shootings of cops that were also by BLMers. 5 cops killed in Dallas, 2 killed in NYC, and 2 more were shot somewhere else but both survived iirc. That was the one where the black lady was shot in the face but still helped save her partner. 

In the 4 years of rioting, there were hundreds of riots that involved assaults and/or murders and/or arson and/or looting and/or attacks on police/federal buildings/WH, etc. 

It's not like there were hundreds of other terrorist attacks/insurrections. There were no other insurrections, aside from J6 and the BLM attacks on police stations/WH/federal buildings, there were a handful of actual terrorist attacks, and a few acts of political violence.

So it's hundreds and hundreds of BLM 'events' and not much else.

If the BLM riots were considered to be done by white nationalists we both know that Dems/FBI would call it 2,000 terrorist attacks or something stupid like that, but in all honesty, it was probably what, 800? I don't even know. It happened almost every Friday and Saturday night for years, in multiple locations in multiple cities at a time. 

I don't think that they all rose to the level of "terrorist attack", but it was honestly atrocious, and IT WAS ALL SUPPORTED BY THE DEMS, 100%. They even had DA's deciding not to prosecute, or to let them out of jail because of covid, plus losers like Kamala pimping a bail fund to get the few that were arrested back out of jail. 

 

There were about 800(?) BLM attacks, and how many other events were there? 20?

So 20/820 = 2.4% of the political violence came from groups aside from Antifa/BLM? And if you're just talking about racial violence, it's probably way less than 2.4%.

[Black Dog]

47 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It wasn't just 2020, dude. 

BLM was rioting for the last half of 2014, all of 2015, all of 2016, and the very early part of 2017. 

This is absurd of course. there were brief outbursts of unrests in each of those years but the idea that there were years-long riots is insane.

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On top of the riots, there was the scalping of a retarded kid plus several mass-shootings of cops that were also by BLMers. 5 cops killed in Dallas, 2 killed in NYC, and 2 more were shot somewhere else but both survived iirc. That was the one where the black lady was shot in the face but still helped save her partner. 

Can't take you seriously when you keep lumping shot that had nothing to do with BLM in with it.

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In the 4 years of rioting, there were hundreds of riots that involved assaults and/or murders and/or arson and/or looting and/or attacks on police/federal buildings/WH, etc. 

And you're still pretending the white house was attacked in 2020? Come on.

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So it's hundreds and hundreds of BLM 'events' and not much else.

Many of them fictional apparently.

 

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If the BLM riots were considered to be done by white nationalists we both know that Dems/FBI would call it 2,000 terrorist attacks or something stupid like that, but in all honesty, it was probably what, 800? I don't even know. It happened almost every Friday and Saturday night for years, in multiple locations in multiple cities at a time. 

So you're just guessing? Making s**t up in other words?

Yeah, that's what i've been saying.

Research data shows that in 2020 there were 220 "violent demonstrations" out of thousands of protests in what was undoubtedly the most intense period of unrest. So we're expected to beleive there were an additioonal 600 incidents over the previous several years. Nah.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

This is absurd of course. there were brief outbursts of unrests in each of those years but the idea that there were years-long riots is insane.

But @WestCanMan is right, there the same people and the same issues and fairly extended periods of violence. The fact there are pauses in between doesn't mean the violence has started and stopped if the planning and purpose comes from the same group. 

I mean, lots of wars have breaks between battles but we don't call each battle a new war, we lump them all togethter.  The 100 years war for example had long periods of time where there were no hostilities but we still refer to them as one event. 

So it seems pretty reasonable that if blm and antifa are coordinating civil unrest in numerous locations for significant destructive demonstrations over a period of years that it be considered as a single conflict isn't it?

[WestCanMan]

50 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

This is absurd of course. there were brief outbursts of unrests in each of those years but the idea that there were years-long riots is insane.

There were brief spates where the riots were every night in multiple cities for weeks, but in general there were riots almost every weekend somewhere or other in the US. There wasn't a month went by in all that time where there weren't riots somewhere.

In all, the number of BLM riots is definitely in the hundreds, and none of them turned out to be about "black men who were wrongfully killed by police". It was a series of MSM false narratives.

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Can't take you seriously when you keep lumping shot that had nothing to do with BLM in with it.

 Of course it had to do with BLM.

• On January 3, Hill and Tesfaye Cooper drove the victim to the apartment of sisters Brittany and Tanishia Covington, where the four tied up and tortured the victim for hours.^[3]

  Brittany, the younger of the two Covington sisters, began a Facebook Live stream, broadcasting the attackers laughing as they bound, gagged, beat, and taunted the victim, cut out part of his scalp with a knife, made him kiss the floor, and forced him to drink from a toilet. ^[3][4][1] They screamed "F*** white people" and forced the victim to repeat them in shouting "F*** Trump".^[1][5] One of the perpetrators contacted the victim's mother and demanded a $300 ransom for the victim's return.^[6] The Facebook Live stream captured only 28 minutes of what was an hours-long attack. Police suspected that the perpetrators stopped and left the apartment when downstairs neighbors complained about noise levels.^[3]

So that happened in January 2017, after 2.5 years of relentless BLM rioting.

Are you trying to pretend that all of that racial hatred had nothing to do with the fact that those black kids, aged 18, 18, 18 and 24 yrs, just spent the last 3 years being bombarded with hate messaging from BLM, the Dems and CNN? 

3 of them heard nothing on the news from the time they were 15.5 yrs old to 18 yrs old but "Cops hate blacks. Cops are racist. Cops kill black men. Defund the police",  and you don't think that influenced their hate crime? If BLM never existed, they still woulda done that?

Get a life. Stop protecting BLM. It's actually YOUR community that they're doing all the damage to with their hate-mongering.

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And you're still pretending the white house was attacked in 2020? Come on.

It was absolutely attacked. 

Over 60 secret service agents were injured enough to require treatment. The crowd threw bricks, bottles, molotovs and shot fireworks at them. Trump had to go down into the bunker. 

They even burned down a church there, and probably other buildings as well. 

That was BLM. 

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Many of them fictional apparently.

The riots are fictional to you because CNN would have called them "mostly peaceful protests" and you don't think for yourself. 

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So you're just guessing? Making s**t up in other words?

There are 52 weeks in a year, times 2 full years, plus 26 weeks in 2014 and 12 weeks in 2020. That's 142 weeks of rioting. 

Some of those 142 weeks had 7 nights of rioting in multiple cities. Most of those weeks had one or two nights in a few cities. Very few of those weeks had no riots at all. 

To say that there were 800 (riots + assaults + BLM-inspired terrorist attacks) isn't a stretch at all.

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Research data shows that in 2020 there were 220 "violent demonstrations" out of thousands of protests in what was undoubtedly the most intense period of unrest. So we're expected to beleive there were an additioonal 600 incidents over the previous several years. Nah.

220 in 3 months, and you don't think there were 580 riots in 2.5 years? That's 10x as long...

There were at least 800 events where the police did or should have intervened to protect people and property from violent rioters.

For sure more than 95% of the political violence in the US has come from BLMers, as well as 95% of the racial hate crimes. 

[Black Dog]

53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

There were brief spates where the riots were every night in multiple cities for weeks, but in general there were riots almost every weekend somewhere or other in the US. There wasn't a month went by in all that time where there weren't riots somewhere.

In all, the number of BLM riots is definitely in the hundreds, and none of them turned out to be about "black men who were wrongfully killed by police". It was a series of MSM false narratives.

This is all made up, incredible that you believe this.

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 Of course it had to do with BLM.

so that happened in January 2017, after 2.5 years of relentless BLM rioting.

Are you trying to pretend that all of that racial hatred had nothing to do with the fact that those black kids, aged 18, 18, 18 and 24 yrs, just spent the last 3 years being bombarded with hate messaging from BLM, the Dems and CNN? 

 

So again,. no evidence that it was connected to BLM, just pure correlation. 

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It was absolutely attacked. 

Over 60 secret service agents were injured enough to require treatment. The crowd threw bricks, bottles, molotovs and shot fireworks at them. Trump had to go down into the bunker. 

Secret Service Statement on Pennsylvania Avenue Demonstrations

Nothing about molotovs and only 11 USSS were treated for injuries. Trump spent less than an hour in the bunker.

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They even burned down a church there, and probably other buildings as well. 

There was a fire in a church, no church was burned down and "probably" nothing else either.

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The riots are fictional to you because CNN would have called them "mostly peaceful protests" and you don't think for yourself. 

No, shitbird, I'm, aware there were riots, but your exaggerated version of events in no way matches reality.

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There are 52 weeks in a year, times 2 full years, plus 26 weeks in 2014 and 12 weeks in 2020. That's 142 weeks of rioting. 

Some of those 142 weeks had 7 nights of rioting in multiple cities. Most of those weeks had one or two nights in a few cities. Very few of those weeks had no riots at all. 

 

Again, this is utterly insane, were you watching this unfold from Mars?

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To say that there were 800 (riots + assaults + BLM-inspired terrorist attacks) isn't a stretch at all.

220 in 3 months, and you don't think there were 580 riots in 2.5 years? That's 10x as long...

There were at least 800 events where the police did or should have intervened to protect people and property from violent rioters.

For sure more than 95% of the political violence in the US has come from BLMers, as well as 95% of the racial hate crimes. 

 

Again, i can only assume your source for this are small white crystals.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But @WestCanMan is right, there the same people and the same issues and fairly extended periods of violence. The fact there are pauses in between doesn't mean the violence has started and stopped if the planning and purpose comes from the same group. 

I mean, lots of wars have breaks between battles but we don't call each battle a new war, we lump them all togethter.  The 100 years war for example had long periods of time where there were no hostilities but we still refer to them as one event. 

You should feel real feel dumb now that the guy you were saying was right has doubled down on his claim that there were massive riots every single day for two full years in 2015 and 2016.

[CdnFox]

15 hours ago, Black Dog said:

You should feel real feel dumb now that the guy you were saying was right has doubled down on his claim that there were massive riots every single day for two full years in 2015 and 2016.

LOL

Well first off i didn't say he's right.  I said that you were wrong by claiming that just because there's breaks in the rioting it somehow isn't referred to as a year of rioting. 

Which is correct. It was a dumb thing for you to say.  If a group or connected groups regularly organize a number of riots over a few years then it's a few years of riots.  Heck i was even nice about it and you've still managed to turn it into you looking stupid.  Like i always say, you never miss a chance to look stupid  

Second, he's still making more sense than you.  your entire argument seems to be "Nuh UHHHHHHhhhh".  You present nothing substantial to refute his claims. 

@WestCanMan   Here are facts and dates and specifics to support my case. 

You:  "uhhhh ummm.... i can refute that with ... uhhh.... the fact that...... you're on crack!!! that's it!

Yeah, you go girl! You're Winning!!!  

[Black Dog]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL

Well first off i didn't say he's right. 

You literally did you dumb shitbird.

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But @WestCanMan is right, there the same people and the same issues and fairly extended periods of violence.

 

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I said that you were wrong by claiming that just because there's breaks in the rioting it somehow isn't referred to as a year of rioting. 

Which is correct. It was a dumb thing for you to say.  If a group or connected groups regularly organize a number of riots over a few years then it's a few years of riots.  Heck i was even nice about it and you've still managed to turn it into you looking stupid.  Like i always say, you never miss a chance to look stupid  

Second, he's still making more sense than you.  your entire argument seems to be "Nuh UHHHHHHhhhh".  You present nothing substantial to refute his claims. 

No, you see when he said "BLM was rioting for the last half of 2014, all of 2015, all of 2016, and the very early part of 2017" I knew he was claiming there was riots every single week in those periods he mentioned, which he subsequently confirmed.

The problem here is you're an dolt for giving him the benefit of the doubt and thinking he meant something other than what he said.

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Second, he's still making more sense than you.  your entire argument seems to be "Nuh UHHHHHHhhhh".  You present nothing substantial to refute his claims. 

That fact you think the claim that there were riots every single week for 104 straight weeks in 2015/16 makes sense shows you must be hitting the same pipe as him. It's a preposterous claim with no evidence to support it.

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@WestCanMan   Here are facts and dates and specifics to support my case. 

 

I can give a bunch of random dates and make absurd assumptions about hwat transpired, doesn't matter if they're made up.

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[WestCanMan]

16 hours ago, Black Dog said:

You should feel real feel dumb now that the guy you were saying was right has doubled down on his claim that there were massive riots every single day for two full years in 2015 and 2016.

Nice try you stupid f'n crackhead 🤣

[impartialobserver]

I do not work with the FBI and all I know is what I see in second hand media. We only know what they let us know. As for what happens behind closed doors and what they actually prioritize... i do not know. I have a fair amount of knowledge when it comes to the BLS and well.. not that interesting. No high drama, no conspiracies, just some garden variety office politics. 

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

You literally did you dumb shitbird.

 

26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Nice try you stupid f'n crackhead 🤣

LOL, the universal nightmare of all UNMOs from skiing nations.... ya that's actually a standing joke in UN circles, I kid ya not. 

Let's skip to the part where we give a new soccer ball (donated by a Baptist church) to village kids... we'll watch the game, smoke some Marlboros and roast a fuc&^%$ goat for supper. 

How about some goat Herb?

You probably thought the fridge connected to the villages only generator had vaccines or some such in it ...right. Nope, it's actually full of beer. 

 

 

Edited January 28 by Venandi

[Black Dog]

8 minutes ago, Venandi said:

LOL, the universal nightmare of all UNMOs from skiing nations.... ya that's actually a standing joke in UN circles, I kid ya not. 

Let's skip to the part where we give a new soccer ball (donated by a Baptist church) to village kids... we'll watch the game, smoke some Marlboros and roast a fuc&^%$ goat for supper. 

How about that Herb?

Some day you're going to make a post that isn't incomprehensible gibberish, probably by accident.

That day is not today.

[Venandi]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Some day you're going to make a post that isn't incomprehensible gibberish, probably by accident.

Someday you'll be smart enough to understand it.

There's big world out there... go look at it.

Edited January 28 by Venandi

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Someday you'll be smart enough to understand it.

There's big world out there... go look at it.

I dunno if i care to understand your goat f*cking references, but you do you, weirdo.

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

dunno if i care to understand your goat f*cking references

I was suggesting that we eat the goat. 

Believe it or not Doggie, I've actually watched you on FLIR with that goat. 

 

Edited January 28 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

You literally did you dumb shitbird.x

not about his argument, about the fact that you're incorrect suggesting it's not all one event   

Sorry kiddo, swing and a miss   

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

 

 

No, you see when he said "BLM was rioting for the last half of 2014, all of 2015, all of 2016, and the very early part of 2017" I knew he was claiming there was riots every single week in those periods he mentioned, which he subsequently confirmed.

That's not what I'm seeing above.  And unless you're claiming that it was every single day that week what I said Still applies.

But I can see you arguing with him trying to claim he meant every single day and him saying that's not the case. So another case of you trying to rewrite what was said in order to cover up your own stupidity

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The problem here is you're an dolt for giving him the benefit of the doubt and thinking he meant something other than what he said.

No, what I said was still 100% correct. Regardless of the number of riots whether it was daily weekly or monthly a series of events organized by one group or groups could be seen as a continuous event. So it's still 100% legitimate. The actual number of times it occurred is of no import. So it doesn't matter whether or not he was right or wrong about how often it occurred, my comments are still absolutely correct and he is still absolutely correct to refer to it as a single event spanning a time.

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That fact you think the claim that there were riots every single week for 104 straight weeks in 2015/16 makes sense shows you must be hitting the same pipe as him. It's a preposterous claim with no evidence to support it.

It might if I had ever said anything like that. What I said is whether or not it happened every single week if there were events regularly in 2015 and 2016 then you could refer to it as an event just as we refer to the 100 years war as the 100 years war even tho there wasn't fighting every day.  The conflict still began at one point and ended at one point. 

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I can give a bunch of random dates and make absurd assumptions about hwat transpired, doesn't matter if they're made up.

If you do and I can't refute them which seems to be the case and my only come back is that you've been doing cocaine then the balance of probabilities says that you should be believed. 

His argument is more compelling than your argument that he's doing cocaine and making these figures up.

Sorry but you're losing on all fronts here. You're screwing up your responses to him, you're offering no evidence that he's wrong, you're making claims about things I said which I didn't, you're claiming that I support things which I haven't, and your best defenses are that other people are doing drugs. You're just looking like a child

[WestCanMan]

19 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I dunno if i care to understand your goat f*cking references, but you do you, weirdo.

So why don't you come up with your own estimate of how many BLM riots there were in 2014, 2015 and 2016, in addition to the 220 in 90(?) days in 2020, so we can come up with a more accurate estimate of "what percent of political violence/terrorist attacks in the US came from BLM?"

Wanna call it 220? We assume that there were as many riots in those other 3 years as in the 3 months in 2020?  

So 440 BLM riots?

What else compares to that, Black Dummy? 

Over $2B in damages in 2020 alone. Dozens of people murdered.

And yes, when CNN's "ALL COPS ARE RACIST AND THEY WANNA KILL BLACKS" propaganda is on TV 24/7 for 3 years, black kids who turn 18 on the last year absolutely were influenced by that, dummy. The racist torture session was absolutely motivated by BLM and their disinformation/hate propaganda campaign. No BLM BS, no torture session, period. 

[Nationalist]

Huh...You guys are still playing with the Pup in this thread? Such a waste of thought.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Huh...You guys are still playing with the Pup in this thread? Such a waste of thought.

Not for him  

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not for him  

For the pup? LOL... in as much as...

"Here boy...See the ball? Go get the ball boy."

Hell I have more stimulating conversations with drunks at the local bar.

[Venandi]

24 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

"Here boy...See the ball? Go get the ball boy."

You'll have better luck training this dog with goats...

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Huh...You guys are still playing with the Pup in this thread? Such a waste of thought.

You still playing with your daughter's underwear?

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

So why don't you come up with your own estimate of how many BLM riots there were in 2014, 2015 and 2016, in addition to the 220 in 90(?) days in 2020, so we can come up with a more accurate estimate of "what percent of political violence/terrorist attacks in the US came from BLM?"

Why don't you actually offer some proof of the alleged virtually nonstop years long rioting, you degenerate scumbag?

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[Black Dog]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

not about his argument, about the fact that you're incorrect suggesting it's not all one event   

Sorry kiddo, swing and a miss   

That's not what I'm seeing above.  And unless you're claiming that it was every single day that week what I said Still applies.

But I can see you arguing with him trying to claim he meant every single day and him saying that's not the case. So another case of you trying to rewrite what was said in order to cover up your own stupidity

No, what I said was still 100% correct. Regardless of the number of riots whether it was daily weekly or monthly a series of events organized by one group or groups could be seen as a continuous event. So it's still 100% legitimate. The actual number of times it occurred is of no import. So it doesn't matter whether or not he was right or wrong about how often it occurred, my comments are still absolutely correct and he is still absolutely correct to refer to it as a single event spanning a time.

It might if I had ever said anything like that. What I said is whether or not it happened every single week if there were events regularly in 2015 and 2016 then you could refer to it as an event just as we refer to the 100 years war as the 100 years war even tho there wasn't fighting every day.  The conflict still began at one point and ended at one point. 

If you do and I can't refute them which seems to be the case and my only come back is that you've been doing cocaine then the balance of probabilities says that you should be believed. 

His argument is more compelling than your argument that he's doing cocaine and making these figures up.

Sorry but you're losing on all fronts here. You're screwing up your responses to him, you're offering no evidence that he's wrong, you're making claims about things I said which I didn't, you're claiming that I support things which I haven't, and your best defenses are that other people are doing drugs. You're just looking like a child

Gotta be honest this is super boring pedantry by a giant f*ckin loser dork and I fell asleep after like one sentence, try not sucking shit at writing.

[Legato]

6 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Gotta be honest this is super boring pedantry by a giant f*ckin loser dork and I fell asleep after like one sentence, try not sucking shit at writing.

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