The FBI was Busy Lying and Committing Crimes for the Dems Instead of Doing their Job, Now This...

[WestCanMan]

While the FBI was lying and committing crimes regarding Russian collusion, J6, the laptop, Whitmer, etc, terrorists, presidential assassins and school shooters were getting out ahead of them.

The FBI is a joke. Terrorists are winning while the FBI is on their various crime sprees.

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

While the FBI was lying and committing crimes regarding Russian collusion, J6, the laptop, Whitmer, etc, terrorists, presidential assassins and school shooters were getting out ahead of them.

The FBI is a joke. Terrorists are winning while the FBI is on their various crime sprees.

Of course they were, you clown. 

Their pre-crime unit normally would have picked up on something as coordinated and sophisticated as "guy in a truck." The paper trail and chatter must have been off the charts. Something must have gone wrong. Possibly there was a minority report?

Edited January 2 by Hodad

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

While the FBI was lying and committing crimes regarding Russian collusion, J6, the laptop, Whitmer, etc, terrorists, presidential assassins and school shooters were getting out ahead of them.

The FBI is a joke. Terrorists are winning while the FBI is on their various crime sprees.

serious question though, is that really in the FBI's jurisdiction? I thought the crimes had to involve going across state borders or something, like organizations or activities or crimes happening in more than one state?

I admit i'm a little unclear on their mandate. But in my defense THEY often seem to be a little unclear on their mandate. 

[Nationalist]

Wray is in for some interesting investigations. The FBI is in for some interesting changes.

I've heard that the FBI and DOJ can resist change in various ways. But I'd bet a few high level fires and some mass firings will get their attention rather quickly.

The DC crowd need to be treated to a dismantling that will scare the Hell out of all the bureaucracies.  Trump's admin needs to shake the tree relentlessly. 

Edited January 2 by Nationalist

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Hodad said:

Of course they were, you clown. 

Their pre-crime unit normally would have picked up on something as coordinated and sophisticated as "guy in a truck." The paper trail and chatter must have been off the charts. Something must have gone wrong. Possibly there was a minority report?

The Mossad catches 1,000 of those guys a year, but in America, guys with sniper rifles can just wander within 200m of a presidential candidate...?

How was the FBI completely unaware of the entire J6th "insurrection"? Don't they have access to 4chan? Didn't they have access to Donald Trump's Twitter feed? How hard was that? How did the US Gov't almost get overthrown (Chutkan's words, and she's a Wash DC judge, so she must know) by a few hundred unarmed guys? They didn't even have 1 gun and they almost "overthrew the US gov't"..... How did the FBI miss that? How was Pelosi unaware, and unprepared? "Uh, let's get 20,000 Nat Guard t protect congress after the insurrection!" Honestly, she's that dumb and yet she's still one of the most powerful Dems in the country?

The FBI couldn't find their ass with both hands. 

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

serious question though, is that really in the FBI's jurisdiction? I thought the crimes had to involve going across state borders or something, like organizations or activities or crimes happening in more than one state?

I admit i'm a little unclear on their mandate. But in my defense THEY often seem to be a little unclear on their mandate. 

The FBI's mandate is basically to investigate anything they want in order to prevent serious crime or protect the country. 

I think there are restrictions in place in terms of what level of crime has to occur in order for them to be allowed to take over all of the evidence in a case and tell local PD's that they're no longer in charge of an investigation, but they don't need to wait for crimes to happen in order to get involved. 

This is the top of the FBI's own page called "What we investigate"...

Maybe they should aim higher, like saying what we combat, or what we try to prevent lol, because it seems like they're just busy watching it all happen while they spend all their energy trying to get Demonrats elected.

How's the war on human trafficking going? Are places like "the US Treasury" getting hacked? How's the fight against "Public Corruption" going? 😂 They couldn't even catch Biden FFS, and he jokes about his crimes on TV. He can't even ride a bike or walk up stairs, but he can rake in millions for his family and stay three steps ahead of the FBI...

When I look at all the top 6 things that they're "investigating", and how well they're doing at preventing all that stuff from happening, it's kind of scary that they're the ones preventing "weapons of mass destruction" from being used against Americans. If they can't catch wind of an insurrection being planned by 4chan troglodytes, or notice the Bidens doing anything corrupt, what will it take for them to catch someone before they deploy a WMD? "Hey, what's this thing you dropped on my toe? Why does it say "biohazard" on the side? Why are you all wearing gas masks in the subway station? Do you need a hand getting this thing on the train?"

Seriously...

Butler Pennsylvania: "Excuse me officer, can I borrow your ladder?"

FBI: "Don't go up there, son, that's a dangerously sloped roof."

"Just pass me that guitar case, would ya? Now buzz off." 

Edited January 2 by WestCanMan

[ironstone]

The FBI seems pretty uncomfortable about calling out the motivation for this attack. 

https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2025/01/01/fbi-spokeswoman-this-is-not-a-terrorist-event-initial-claim-backtracked-by-agency-hours-later/

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, ironstone said:

The FBI seems pretty uncomfortable about calling out the motivation for this attack. 

https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2025/01/01/fbi-spokeswoman-this-is-not-a-terrorist-event-initial-claim-backtracked-by-agency-hours-later/

It's never an islamist terrorist attack at the beginning. They need to let the emotion go away before they admit to that. 

[impartialobserver]

I find it interesting that most on here think that they have insider information. Everything that they "know" came from secondary media sources. 
 

[WestCanMan]

33 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I find it interesting that most on here think that they have insider information. Everything that they "know" came from secondary media sources. 
 

What "insider info" are you referring to?

[impartialobserver]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What "insider info" are you referring to?

What I infer is that you have some insider source that is telling you that the FBI knowingly and deliberately looked the other way on this one. I can freely admit that I have no insider information and do not know if they knew of this guy and if so, how. 

[WestCanMan]

26 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

What I infer is that you have some insider source that is telling you that the FBI knowingly and deliberately looked the other way on this one. I can freely admit that I have no insider information and do not know if they knew of this guy and if so, how. 

I never said that they did that. I just said that they waste so much time and energy helping the Dems on their elections that they have let more important work slide. 

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deliberately looked the other way on this one.

If I wanted to go full conspiracy theorist I'd say that the FBI, etc, need to let a few terrorist attacks succeed just so that the general public understands that the risk is real, much like Churchill theoretically left his family in Coventry rather than tip them off on an impending Luftwaffe bombing raid so that the Germans didn't know Britain was deciphering their Enigma Machine codes. 

If there were never any successful terrorist attacks then there would be no funding from congress to prevent future attacks, and then there could be far more devastating attacks in the future due to a lack of preparedness. 

People could go on all day about whether it's Zionists who want a few successful attacks to occur or the US gov't wants them or whether it's merely the will of islamist haters alone, or who's to blame for this madness, or which groups are ok'd by the gov't to be attacked and whether or not some others are protected, but I'd contend that the FBI needs the occasional attack to succeed to get funding from congress. 

They can never admit to that, because that would be like telling Johnny's mom that they ok'd his death, but that's how the game is played at the highest levels. We're just pawns. If that wasn't the case then we'd never start/join wars because you can't do that without losing soldiers. 

[impartialobserver]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I never said that they did that. I just said that they waste so much time and energy helping the Dems on their elections that they have let more important work slide. 

If I wanted to go full conspiracy theorist I'd say that the FBI, etc, need to let a few terrorist attacks succeed just so that the general public understands that the risk is real, much like Churchill theoretically left his family in Coventry rather than tip them off on an impending Luftwaffe bombing raid so that the Germans didn't know Britain was deciphering their Enigma Machine codes. 

If there were never any successful terrorist attacks then there would be no funding from congress to prevent future attacks, and then there could be far more devastating attacks in the future due to a lack of preparedness. 

People could go on all day about whether it's Zionists who want a few successful attacks to occur or the US gov't wants them or whether it's merely the will of islamist haters alone, or who's to blame for this madness, or which groups are ok'd by the gov't to be attacked and whether or not some others are protected, but I'd contend that the FBI needs the occasional attack to succeed to get funding from congress. 

They can never admit to that, because that would be like telling Johnny's mom that they ok'd his death, but that's how the game is played at the highest levels. We're just pawns. If that wasn't the case then we'd never start/join wars because you can't do that without losing soldiers. 

So in short, you are guessing. That's fine. I have no idea what they actually do or if they knew about this guy. Unlike you though, I do not trust media sources (no matter the outlet). Folks like to say that we fudge numbers and yet when pressed for specifics.. can never offer even the slightest verifiable detail. All they have is secondary media sources. 

[Matthew]

13 hours ago, Hodad said:

Their pre-crime unit normally would have picked up on something as coordinated and sophisticated as "guy in a truck."

And plus a "guy in an Airbnb" should have really tipped them off.

[Matthew]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

How was the FBI completely unaware of the entire J6th "insurrection"?

They were aware and lots of Intel and dozens of operatives emedded in the far right groups involved. But at what point do vaugly seditious plans become illegal? The US gives a remarkably high level of freedom for openly seditious speech and activism in peacetime.

Trump people are so witless that when they violently took over the seat of government, their next step was to wander around and take selfies. So I'm sure the FBI accurately assessed these people as not a "clear and present danger."

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

So in short, you are guessing. That's fine. I have no idea what they actually do or if they knew about this guy. Unlike you though, I do not trust media sources (no matter the outlet). Folks like to say that we fudge numbers and yet when pressed for specifics.. can never offer even the slightest verifiable detail. All they have is secondary media sources. 

I'm not guessing... What are you talking about?

We know they wasted all that time and money because they admitted to wasting all that time and money:

• They're the ones who said that they spent $25M or whatever committing crimes and lying about Russian collusion.
• I don't doubt Zuckerberg when he says that it was the FBI that told FB that "Russian disinformation about a laptop" was coming their way.
• I don't doubt the FBI when they say that they bought weed to get their Whitmer kidnapping partners high, or when they say that they gave those guys guns, ammo and explosives.
• They're the ones who made persecuting J6 rioters their primary concern, after years of letting BLM and Antifa attack gov't buildings, including the attack on the WH - where they attacked secret service members with actual weapons like molotovs, fireworks, etc - which injured several dozens of officers. 

There's zero guessing involved here. No theories. None of this has anything to do with stats that I may or may not have access to. This is all based on things that the FBI has either admitted to, or things that they got caught doing by various judges. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Matthew said:

They were aware and lots of Intel 

So why did Pelosi leave the capitol unguarded then?

On the day of "the 'insurrection' that the FBI was aware of" according to you, Matthew the Expert, the exterior of the capitol was guarded by basically no one. And the cops were even opening doors to let "insurrectionists" in. Why were none of them charged with treason?

I can guarantee you that Secret Service wasn't letting BLM rioters and Antifa Rioters into the WH, so were those guys actual insurrectionists? Do you think that they would have started milling about casually after they got into the WH, or would it have been far more violent? Right Matty?

Anyways, after the J6 "insurrection" was over, and there was no longer any need for security there, the exterior looked like a Nat Guard photo op (because it was a Nat Guard photo op):

Why didn't the J6 committee ever investigate the complete lack of security based on the perceived threat level, Matthew the Expert? 

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dozens of operatives emedded in the far right groups involved.

Exactly. Just like Ray Epps, the textbook seditionist.

Sonofabunch, it's almost like you said something intelligent there. I nearly fell off my chair.  

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, Matthew said:

They were aware and lots of Intel and dozens of operatives emedded in the far right groups involved. But at what point do vaugly seditious plans become illegal? The US gives a remarkably high level of freedom for openly seditious speech and activism in peacetime.

Trump people are so witless that when they violently took over the seat of government, their next step was to wander around and take selfies. So I'm sure the FBI accurately assessed these people as not a "clear and present danger."

The FBI is focused on Christians. The Muslim who  attacked in New Orleans had posted his fealty to ISIS on numerous occasions. Were they focused on ISIS followers at all? Evidently not.

Wray needs to be drawn an quartered as does that twit Garland.

Edited January 3 by Nationalist

[Matthew]

39 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So why did Pelosi leave the capitol unguarded then?

The FBI does not work for Congress. It works for the Justice Dept of the Executive Branch which at that time was led by *checks notes* Donald Trump.

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

The FBI is focused on Christians.

🙄

Edited January 2 by Matthew

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, Matthew said:

The FBI does not work for Congress. It works for the Justice Dept of the Executive Branch which at that time was led by *checks notes* Donald Trump.

🙄

It is supposed to be lead by Brandon.

But lies an traitorous leanings are Libbie traits. You go Libbie...

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Matthew said:

The FBI does not work for Congress. It works for the Justice Dept of the Executive Branch which at that time was led by *checks notes* Donald Trump.

🙄

Ahhh - you mean back when the fbi agents were caught texting each other about how they'd do what it took to 'stop' trump?    gotcha

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ahhh - you mean back when the fbi agents were caught texting each other about how they'd do what it took to 'stop' trump?    gotcha

Ya know...it looks like quite a number of Libbies deserve to have Trump's DOJ and FBI investigate them. 

As Domestic Terrorists.

Edited January 2 by Nationalist

[WestCanMan]

24 minutes ago, Matthew said:

The FBI does not work for Congress. It works for the Justice Dept of the Executive Branch which at that time was led by *checks notes* Donald Trump.

😂 You stupid f'ck. The FBI works for the United States of America, not Donald Trump. 

If what you're saying is true then why did the FBI run the witch hunt against Trump, dummy? Why did they try to coerce false testimony from people who were in jail for charges unrelated to collusion if they were working for him?

FYI it was the FBI's job to prevent the US gov't from being overthrown, if at all possible. Of course they would have alerted the people in charge of capitol security. Of course Pelosi was told that there was an insurrection mounting if the FBI "knew that". If she wasn't told, then someone committed treason. 

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya know...it looks like quite a number of Libbies deserve to have Trump's DOJ and FBI investigate them. 

As Domestic Terrorists.

sounds like a few FBI agents should be investigated as well to be honest  

I'm sure there's a few people who are a little worried about what the future may hold for them given their actions

[WestCanMan]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

sounds like a few FBI agents should be investigated as well to be honest  

FBI: "Donald's limo was double-parked in a couple of reserved spots outside of a DC restaurant on Jan 6th. The owners of the restaurant didn't complain - they were happy to have the presidential limo in front of their business - but it happened during a mostly peaceful protest, so the FBI can charge him with a new felony charge every single minute. Seeing as the Limo was there for 34 minutes, that's 34 felony parking violations.