How the left holds anti-Christian, anti-Bible views and is destructive to society

[blackbird]

The fact is this is evident from their views, policies, and many laws and policies they support.  The more left, the more anti-Bible or anti-Christian their beliefs.

All of this can be easily proven by examining and comparing their beliefs with the Bible.  You might say why does this matter?  The answer is it matters big time to a nation because our political leaders are supposed to also be leaders in how society should think and function.  There are basically two directions to go; either toward God and building a God-fearing Christian society or opposing God and building a decadent, crumbling society.  Which way would you choose to go?

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Why the Left Mocks the Bible

The Bible tells of a greater source of truth than human reasoning. The Left can’t handle that.

At PragerU, we have released about 400 videos on virtually every subject outside of the natural sciences and math. Along with 2 billion views, the videos have gotten tens of thousands of comments. So we have a pretty good handle on what people most love and most hate. For example, any video defending America or Israel inevitably receives many negative responses. But no videos elicit the amount of contempt and mockery that videos defending religion, explaining the Bible, or arguing for God do.

Why is that?

There is a good reason. The Bible and the Left (not liberalism, leftism) are as opposed as any two worldviews can be. While there are people who claim to hold both a Bible-based worldview and left-wing views, these people are few in number. Moreover, what they do is take left-wing positions and wrap them in a few Bible verses. But on virtually every important value in life, the Left and the Bible are diametrically opposed.

Here are a few examples:

• The biblical view is that people are not basically good. Evil therefore comes from within human nature. For the Left, human nature is not the source of evil. Capitalism, patriarchy, poverty, religion, nationalism, or some other external cause is the source of evil.

• The biblical view is that nature was created for man. The left-wing view is that man is just another part of nature.

• The biblical view is that man is created in the image of God and, therefore, formed with a transcendent, immaterial soul. The left-wing view — indeed, the view of all secular ideologies — is that man is purely material, another assemblage of stellar dust.

• The biblical view is that the human being has free will. The left-wing view — again, the view of all secular outlooks — is that human beings have no free will. Everything we do is determined by environment, genes, and the matter of which we are composed. Firing neurons, not free will, explain both murders and kindness.

• The biblical view is that while reason alone can lead a person to conclude that murder is wrong, murder is ultimately and objectively wrong only because there is a transcendent source of right and wrong — God — who deems murder evil.

• The biblical view is that God made order out of chaos. Order is defined by distinctions. One such example is male and female — the only inherent human distinction that matters to God. There are no racial or ethnic distinctions in God’s order; there is only the human sex distinction. The Left loathes this concept of a divine order. That is the primary driver of its current attempt to obliterate the male-female distinction.

• The biblical view is that the nuclear family is the basic unit of society — a married father and mother and their children. This is the biblical ideal. All good people of faith recognize that the reality of this world is such that many people do not or cannot live that ideal. And such people often merit our support. But that does not change the fact that the nuclear family is the one best suited to create thriving individuals and a healthy society, and we who take the Bible seriously must continue to advocate the ideal family structure as the Bible defines it. And for that, perhaps more than anything, we are mocked.

• The biblical view holds that wisdom begins with acknowledging God. The secular view is that God is unnecessary for wisdom, and the left-wing view is that God is destructive to wisdom. But if you want to know which view is more accurate, look at the most godless and Bible-less institution in our society: the universities. They are, without competition, the most foolish institutions in our society.

For nearly all of American history, the Bible was the most important book in America. It is no longer. This is a moral and intellectual catastrophe. If you want to understand why, consider reading The Rational Bible, my commentary on the first five books of the Bible. The second volume of The Rational Bible, Genesis, is published today.               unquote

Bible & the Left -- Why the Left Mocks the Bible's Truth | National Review

[Michael Hardner]

I need to point out, as per PEW, that religion continues to decline...

 

 

 

[herbie]

Religion is the opiate of the Masses.

It just burns people to hear the truth.

[Michael Hardner]

Also ... MY opinion ...

Such major social forces such as religion can't be easily assessed for their impact on daily life.  However, given the moral and metaphysical implications there definitely must be major effects and they're not going to be obvious either.

I would submit that the so-called culture wars are an echo of the ecumenical clashes that were common in public life in past centuries.  I once did some research on the churches in my small Ontario hometown and found, in the microfilms, evidence of viscous fights between the Presbyterians, Anglicans, and Methodists (these were pre-United Church days) over placement, and land allocation with the same accusations of elitism and favour with the elite classes.

"God is dead, and we have killed him" said the philosopher.  And he knew that there would a horrible period where humans would grasp for meaning and - for a time - find none.  To my mind, our tribalism, hedonism, fake-patriotism are all symptoms of a post-modern people who don't have a good reason to live.

MHO - My Humble Opinion 

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

Religion is the opiate of the Masses.

It just burns people to hear the truth.

Old phrase.  

It's still with us, in the shrill morality of the fervent... in lots of ways...

[NAME REMOVED]

Jesus Christ was a leftist. He believed in helping the sick, poor, and needy. He preached forgiveness, and went after the biblical oligarchs in the synagogues. 

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Jesus Christ was a leftist. He believed in helping the sick, poor, and needy. He preached forgiveness, and went after the biblical oligarchs in the synagogues. 

 

Kind of an anti-Semite too, with defacing that temple and all...

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Jesus Christ was a leftist. He believed in helping the sick, poor, and needy. He preached forgiveness, and went after the biblical oligarchs in the synagogues. 

No, Jesus was not a leftist.  Yes he believed in helping the sick, poor and needy.  That does not make him a leftist.   A leftist is an entirely different kind of person.

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Was Jesus a social justice warrior?

There there, little woke Christian. I know. It’s getting rough out there. Come on in, grab a pew, and take a few moments to catch your breath. Here’s a juice box and some string cheese to fortify yourself before heading back out into the big bad world.

There. Feeling better?

Good.

I know…it’s hard to be perpetually offended by what the world wants you to be offended by and still project an image of being a faithful Christ-follower. I get it. The pressure to agree with whatever the world sends down the pike is immense, so much so that it’s much easier to compromise the truth of the Gospel rather than risk being labeled a racist, or a homophobe, or anti-love, or even, God forbid, a ‘Karen’.

I know. It’s a tough act to juggle, but rest assured, I’m here fo…what? What’s that, you say? Jesus was a social justice warrior too?

Really?

Now, I’m sure you’ve heard well-meaning friends say so, maybe even a minister or two, but are you sure about that? Have you studied the scriptures out to make certain that’s true and not just taken their words at face value? Because, you see, anyone can pull scriptures out to justify what they want to justify. To know what Jesus stood for you need to take a look at the whole thing, the entire Gospel, not just a few well-chosen verses that appear to prop up a worldly viewpoint that has no roots in the Gospel of Christ.

No. Jesus wasn’t a social justice warrior.

Jesus stood for justice, not social justice. There is a difference between the two. Ah, I see you’re having trouble with this, but hey, no worries, we can compare the two…

Justice is the pursuit of what is right according to an absolute, impartial standard. It’s guided by what’s morally acceptable, unbiased, and concerns itself with matters that will impact anyone and everyone. Basically, justice hangs on what God says is right, period.

Social justice, however, is directly opposite. Its focus is on what is perceived as lacking for some when compared to what someone else has. It’s biased, driven by what’s socially acceptable, and only involves itself in matters that are believed to affect specific groups. Basically, social justice hangs on what the people say is right.

So what does this mean?

Well, it means that yes, a Christian can, and should, involve themselves in helping the poor, the oppressed, and fighting against the evil of the world, but do you honestly believe that Jesus would stand next to someone hurling a brick through a window in the name of ‘social justice’ and cheer them on? Do you think that Jesus would call some of His children racists simply because of the color of their skin? Do you really believe that Jesus would condemn an entire group of people because some people who lived hundreds of years ago committed sin? Do you truly believe that Jesus would be that shallow, that selfish, that worldly to support an organization whose leader recently said that if they don’t get what they want they’ll burn the system down?

The Jews of His time period wanted a social justice warrior, someone who would free them from their oppressors, but not once did Jesus give in to their expectations. Instead, he told them to ‘render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar’s (Matt. 22:21)’. Not once did Jesus pick up a sign, or hurl bottles at the soldiers, or spit in people’s faces, or curse or loot a store or take entire city blocks hostage until His demands were met.

No. He didn’t. Because that wasn’t the justice He came for. His purpose, His mission, was this…

“For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.” (Luke 19:10)

Everything Jesus did had one goal in mind, to bring sinners to repentance so they could find eternal salvation from sin and freedom from the injustices of the world. His message was one of peace, not rioting. As a Christ-follower, shouldn’t that be our goal too?

There is a right way to fight for justice, and a wrong way. There is either God’s way, or the world’s way, you can’t do both.   unquote

Was Jesus a Social Justice Warrior? The Answer May Surprise You. – KathyWereb.com

Jesus also did not support policies, laws, and practices that leftists advocate.  The O.P. at the beginning of this article points that out.

Jesus would also not support Socialism which is confiscating the wealth of those that have it and re-distributing to others.  The commandment "thou shalt not steal" should make that clear.  Socialists oppose the right to private property.  The Bible clearly defends it.

The big thing that Jesus would oppose is the leftist's anti-Bible and anti-Christian ideology.

 

Edited January 1 by blackbird

[blackbird]

Here is another article explaining Jesus was not a social justice warrior (or leftist).

I know there are some churches or denominations that believe their mission is social justice but this is not the real purpose of a church.  These churches misinterpret the Bible by taking one verse here or there and using them to support their view.  This is often done by many cults and false teachers.

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Jesus was no social justice warrior

Posted by Jason Dulle under Historical Jesus, Social

Jesus’ foremost mission was the salvation of sinners, not social justice. While the marginalized and oppressed tended to be the most receptive to Jesus’ message, his message was for all people because all people need to be saved.

What about Jesus’ healing ministry? While Jesus surely had compassion on the sick, His miracles had a bigger purpose than just helping the destitute and needy. They were intended to reveal His identity and confirm His message.

Jesus never raised money for the poor or went on a campaign to liberate the oppressed. If those things could be done, great, but that was not Jesus’ mission, and it’s not the church’s mission either. Our primary mission is to preach the gospel and call sinners to repentance. If we can help their lot in life along the way, all the better, but we must keep the Great Commission the central mission of the church.

Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason recently wrote an article related to this topic. He debunks the idea the myth that Jesus was a social justice warrior championing the cause of the poor and oppressed. Check it out."

Jesus was no social justice warrior | Thinking to Believe

[herbie]

That's why he ate all the loaves and fishes and told the mob to get a f*cking job and buy your own. Toppled the tables of the money lenders as they weren't charging enough to deliver a good return to the shareholders. Told the lepers to beg opn the corner until they had enough shekels for a real doctor.

You got a pretty f*cked up mind to think Jssus was some hero of the right.

[blackbird]

Read the article I posted.

"What about Jesus’ healing ministry? While Jesus surely had compassion on the sick, His miracles had a bigger purpose than just helping the destitute and needy. They were intended to reveal His identity and confirm His message."

Your language demonstrates your warped thinking.

Edited January 1 by blackbird

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, blackbird said:

The fact is this is evident from their views, policies, and many laws and policies they support.  The more left, the more anti-Bible or anti-Christian their beliefs.

The more you read about Jesus the human being the more obvious it becomes why they nailed him to a cross.  He was a progressive who was at least 3000 years or more ahead of his time.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Jesus was no social justice warrior

You figure he was just another angry bitter white guy?

[User]

4 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Jesus Christ was a leftist. He believed in helping the sick, poor, and needy. He preached forgiveness, and went after the biblical oligarchs in the synagogues. 

 

That doesn't make someone a leftist. 

People on the right are charitable with their own money, time, and resources, that is not what makes someone right vs left. 

What Jesus didn't do or preach was that his followers should vote for and support a leader to tax everyone else to help the sick, poor, and needy... or to get the evil rich people's money through taxes to do those things for them. 

 

[User]

It is comical how folks who are not Christian will believe Jesus is everything except who he actually claimed to be and reject the very thing he claimed to be here for... 

But yeah, sure, Jesus was some progressive Marxist hippie leftist social justice warrior... just not the son of God who died for your sins. *eye roll*

[eyeball]

27 minutes ago, User said:

But yeah, sure, Jesus was some progressive Marxist hippie leftist social justice warrior... just not the son of God who died for your sins. *eye roll*

He was a natural born humanist. This son of himself nonsense is what eye rolls are reserved for. 

His death only served to prolong the length of time it's taken to seperate church and state. His life is still making it inevitable.

[Moonlight Graham]

  

6 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Jesus Christ was a leftist. He believed in helping the sick, poor, and needy. He preached forgiveness, and went after the biblical oligarchs in the synagogues. 

 

The left believes the government should force us to all to pay taxes in order to provide these things through the government.  Jesus never said this, as helping was voluntary.  He therefore wasn't a communist.  Its much easier to give money to the poor when its not your money.  I think there's stats or polls showing religious people give more to charity.

Jesus believes in the leftwing notion of income and power equality over hierarchy but went about it much differently.  So Jesus was a kind of a social justice libertarian and anti-greed, anti-violence.  He probably also didn't believe in abortion or sex before marriage or divorce, and who knows about LGBT stuff.

So he's kind of half left, half right. 

 

Edited January 1 by Moonlight Graham

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

He was a progressive who was at least 3000 years or more ahead of his time.

Where did you get that idea?  The definition of progressivism is:

"Progressivism is a left-leaning political philosophy and reform movement that seeks to advance the human condition through social reform – primarily based on purported advancements in social organization, science, and technology."

Jesus did not come to earth to be involved in or promote some kind of political agenda.

He said clearly his kingdom is not of this world. 

The phrase "kingdom of God" is mentioned more than 80 times in the New Testament.

"Ron Rhodes, Theology Professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, offers this bite-sized definition of the Kingdom of God: “God’s present spiritual reign over His people (Colossians 1:13) and Jesus’ future reign in the millennial kingdom (Revelation 20)."

Jesus ministry on earth was not about politics or "progressivism".  He came to earth to preach about the Kingdom of God.  The gospel of John makes it clear to be part of Jesus' kingdom required faith in Jesus as the Savior.

Progressivism is a left-leaning political ideology to do with this world's social system.  Nothing to do with what Jesus talked about.

Edited January 1 by blackbird

[eyeball]

Just now, blackbird said:

Where did you get that idea? 

We still have a long way to go.

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

Progressivism is a political ideology to do with this world's social system.  Nothing to do with what Jesus talked about.

Progressivism is exactly what Jesus talked about.

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Progressivism is exactly what Jesus talked about.

Can you give some examples of what he said?

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Can you give some examples of what he said?

Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you - a formula for getting along in the world. Everything else was just window dressing.

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you - a formula for getting along in the world. Everything else was just window dressing.

 Progressivism is a broad political philosophy.  Nothing to do with what Jesus said "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you".  You are mixing apples and oranges.

[blackbird]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Progressivism is exactly what Jesus talked about.

Jesus did not get involved in politics and political ideologies. 

Progressivism is a word that refers to secular humanist ideology.  The Bible very clearly opposes that.

"• The biblical view is that the human being has free will. The left-wing view — again, the view of all secular outlooks — is that human beings have no free will. Everything we do is determined by environment, genes, and the matter of which we are composed. Firing neurons, not free will, explain both murders and kindness."

Left wing secular or progressivism ideology believes the above bold sentence.  That is not what Jesus taught.

People often try to put their own spin on what the Bible teaches and it is fairly easy to cherry pick a verse or two to support unbiblical ideologies.

Edited January 1 by blackbird

[eyeball]

16 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 Progressivism is a broad political philosophy.  Nothing to do with what Jesus said "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you".  You are mixing apples and oranges.

I'm simply applying Occam's Razor to them.

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, blackbird said:

People often try to put their own spin on what the Bible teaches and it is fairly easy to cherry pick a verse or two to support unbiblical ideologies.

You're no different.

[blackbird]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

You're no different.

I don't think so.  I know you don't believe much of what I tell you.  But all you have to do is Google the subjects and do a little reading of articles on the subjects.  They will tell you.  

In the introductory post I posted an article with a list of things that show how leftist secular humanism is the total opposite of what the Bible teaches.  It is very clear.  But you either didn't read it or your mind is locked in some other way of thinking and you just can't see it.  I will pray that God opens your mind to the truth.   But I don't think it is useful to go on with silly debates and meaningless one liners.   Happy new year.