Free speech or acts of terrorism? Pro Hamas group targets Jewish owned Indigo bookstore with anti-jewish rhetoric

[West]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/jewish-leaders-condemn-hate-filled-anti-israel-protest-outside-indigo-at-torontos-eaton-centre

 

Taking over a business and making threatening comments. 

Free speech or criminal act? 

[Michael Hardner]

Trespassing, criminal but they won't be charged if they vacate.

Taking over a business, didn't happen.

Targeting a Jewish business, anti-Semitic.

Targeting an organization that supports the IDF, anti-Israel.

Making threats is illegal, but I didn't see that mentioned in the article and no one was arrested so I'll assume that's a mistake.

Pretty easy exercise, now let's turn off the taps of outrage and just be Canadian again hm?

[West]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trespassing, criminal but they won't be charged if they vacate.

Taking over a business, didn't happen.

Targeting a Jewish business, anti-Semitic.

Targeting an organization that supports the IDF, anti-Israel.

Making threats is illegal, but I didn't see that mentioned in the article and no one was arrested so I'll assume that's a mistake.

Pretty easy exercise, now let's turn off the taps of outrage and just be Canadian again hm?

Noah Shack, the interim president of the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs, said the protests “threatened Indigo staff and negatively impacted customers simply wanting to enjoy their day.”

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, West said:

... the protests “threatened Indigo staff and negatively impacted customers simply wanting to enjoy their day.”

No mention of making threatening comments though. You have to understand that these corporate types choose their words carefully .

Edited December 28, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[West]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

No mention of making threatening comments though. You have to understand that these corporate types choose their words carefully .

Based on that line, it sounds like staff were threatened. 

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, West said:

Based on that line, it sounds like staff were threatened. 

True.  And yet, he didn't say that either.  See what I mean ?

Corporate types are great at drawing dotted lines, knowing how you will fill them in.  

[User]

33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Taking over a business, didn't happen.

The mall is a business. 

[Michael Hardner]

51 minutes ago, User said:

The mall is a business. 

Taking over a mall, didn't happen.

[West]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Taking over a mall, didn't happen.

According to the story they went into a private business (because it's owned by Jewish people) and chanted slogans, and appear to have caused enough of a disturbance to cause the journalist to write an article about it. 

Don't know why we must tolerate a person's business being targeted because they happen to be of some religious or ethnic background that the other group despises. 

Nothing Canadian about apparently creating chaos in someone's business because of their ethnicity or religion. 

Edited December 28, 2024 by West

[User]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Taking over a mall, didn't happen.

So why were they removed?

 

[West]

2 minutes ago, User said:

So why were they removed?

 

At the heart of the matter is whether or not your business should be the target of harassment, intimidation and bullying over their religion or ethnicity. 

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, West said:

 

Don't know why we must tolerate a person's business being targeted because they happen to be of some religious or ethnic background that the other group despises. 

 

You don't.

I explicitly addressed that individual case in my first response.

19 minutes ago, User said:

So why were they removed?

 

Trespassing and causing a disturbance I expect.  They had no right to be in there.

[User]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trespassing and causing a disturbance I expect.  They had no right to be in there.

So... what exactly is your quibble with the use of take over here then?

They took over a space. In a business. They had to leave. 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trespassing, criminal but they won't be charged if they vacate.

Taking over a business, didn't happen.

Targeting a Jewish business, anti-Semitic.

Targeting an organization that supports the IDF, anti-Israel.

Making threats is illegal, but I didn't see that mentioned in the article and no one was arrested so I'll assume that's a mistake.

Pretty easy exercise, now let's turn off the taps of outrage and just be Canadian again hm?

playing the advocates devil again I see, shouldn't you be spending your time scanning the big box of ignore lists.

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

playing the advocates devil again I see, shouldn't you be spending your time scanning the big box of ignore lists.

Seems like I went through the angles and came down on both sides, all told.

Do you have a specific point, or do you just need attention from me?

[Gaétan]

True we cannot blame all jews for the Hitler of Israel.

[Moonlight Graham]

13 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trespassing, criminal but they won't be charged if they vacate.

Taking over a business, didn't happen.

Targeting a Jewish business, anti-Semitic.

Targeting an organization that supports the IDF, anti-Israel.

Making threats is illegal, but I didn't see that mentioned in the article and no one was arrested so I'll assume that's a mistake.

This is all accurate.  Being annoying at a mall in front of a store whose owner supports Israel also isn't terrorism.

Hopefully they enjoyed some of Heather's Picks before they got kicked out of the mall.

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[CdnFox]

On 12/28/2024 at 7:53 AM, West said:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/jewish-leaders-condemn-hate-filled-anti-israel-protest-outside-indigo-at-torontos-eaton-centre

 

Taking over a business and making threatening comments. 

Free speech or criminal act? 

Well to be honest I didn't read the article but based on your description of them taking over a business that right there moves Beyond free speech