Finance minister resigns Winter statement day

[herbie]

2 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

singh calling for  trudeau to  resign . as a ndp voter in last election  can we have singh resign 2 please ndp needs fresh blood lol

Persuade Nathan Cullen to reenter federal race. He could explain how the NDP played Trudeau all these years and benefited Canadians in terms they could understand. I mean there's plenty of dimwits that actually use the 'only to get his pension' to cover the fact the can't see past his turban.

Add on those who've yet to mention Freeland's objection to the wimpy uncoordinated response or plans to Trump's threats. Tack on those that think increasing border security and NATO spending will lessen the deficit and cutting or cancelling social programs will win votes.

PP's at it again, calling for his weekly non-confidence motion while he watches the Libs collapse of their own accord rather than offering no policies, no alternatives, no positive reason to ask for support. Foolish. Watch their tower collapse and there will be a better chance of a Mulroney like sweep with Canadians voting in spring rather than mid-winter.

And if they do, even a solid NDP supporter will agree the NDP may lose a few seats and the Bloc may end up the official opposition.

[Politics1990]

11 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

PP is not going to cut any oil he is going to ramp up all our resources....oil and gas included....He is going to cut funding to Foreign identities, and organizations, cut some of our new social programs, cut the CBC, and if we are lucky maybe reduce the postal service to one pony and 2 riders...cut civil service numbers....

But until he announces his election campaign promises you liberals and NDP support will continue to guess, and speculate that the sky is fallen...atleast for the next 8 to 12 years... and once things get back on plane, a liberal will come in and wreck it all....

shocker  conservative cutting social programs for the poor and lower middle class never seen that coming .

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

Persuade Nathan Cullen to reenter federal race. He could explain how the NDP played Trudeau all these years and benefited Canadians in terms they could understand. I mean there's plenty of dimwits that actually use the 'only to get his pension' to cover the fact the can't see past his turban.

Add on those who've yet to mention Freeland's objection to the wimpy uncoordinated response or plans to Trump's threats. Tack on those that think increasing border security and NATO spending will lessen the deficit and cutting or cancelling social programs will win votes.

PP's at it again, calling for his weekly non-confidence motion while he watches the Libs collapse of their own accord rather than offering no policies, no alternatives, no positive reason to ask for support. Foolish. Watch their tower collapse and there will be a better chance of a Mulroney like sweep with Canadians voting in spring rather than mid-winter.

And if they do, even a solid NDP supporter will agree the NDP may lose a few seats and the Bloc may end up the official opposition.

i would perfer alexander boultrice but cullen  would be a nice 2nd choice  . as long as its not that  nutjob niki ashton i don't care at thispoint lol

[Army Guy]

15 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

shocker  conservative cutting social programs for the poor and lower middle class never seen that coming .

i would perfer alexander boultrice but cullen  would be a nice 2nd choice  . as long as its not that  nutjob niki ashton i don't care at thispoint lol

No the shocker is blowing past their assigned guard rail of 40 bil....by more than 20 billion....all of this by spending well north of 800 billion in the last 9 years...Some one has to pay for all of this....and despite everything you think you know money does not grow on trees...So something has to go...starting at social programs, and much much more...you can't have what you can't afford...

 

Edited December 16, 2024 by Army Guy

[Politics1990]

6 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

No the shocker is blowing past their assigned guard rail of 40 bil....by more than 20 billion....all of this by spending well north of 800 billion in the last 9 years...Some one has to pay for all of this....and despite everything you think you know money does not grow on trees...So something has to go...starting at social programs, and much much more...you can't have what you can't afford...

 

lol  yea goodluck with that see how unpopular he becomes as soon as he starts touching them lol

[Army Guy]

22 minutes ago, herbie said:

Add on those who've yet to mention Freeland's objection to the wimpy uncoordinated response or plans to Trump's threats. Tack on those that think increasing border security and NATO spending will lessen the deficit and cutting or cancelling social programs will win votes.

 

Well there is always living with those 25 % tariffs, i mean we atleast you will  have your dignity right... Last time i checked the federal government has responsibilities to uphold that may or may not be popular with the voters.......border security, and defense are two of those...I don't like paying for car insurance either, but it gives my family peace of mind....and it is my responsibility....right now we are living well above our stated income...and something needs to be cut, we have already cut border and defence for decades, there is nothing left to cut...

[Army Guy]

1 minute ago, Politics1990 said:

lol  yea goodluck with that see how unpopular he becomes as soon as he starts touching them lol

look if justin can survive for 9 years i'm sure PP can as well....you still don't get the fact we can't afford all of these nice to have social programs, I'm sure raising taxes would be more popular...but somehow or some place cuts need to be made....

[Politics1990]

3 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

look if justin can survive for 9 years i'm sure PP can as well....you still don't get the fact we can't afford all of these nice to have social programs, I'm sure raising taxes would be more popular...but somehow or some place cuts need to be made....

ye it depends which social p rograms lol

[Army Guy]

1 minute ago, Politics1990 said:

ye it depends which social p rograms lol

Well lets do some math...if your 60 billion over spent this year , then and i'm only guessing becasue i'm not a math prodigy you need to find 60 bil in cuts....just to break even....even more if you want to pay down some of our debt...

[Politics1990]

Just now, Army Guy said:

Well lets do some math...if your 60 billion over spent this year , then and i'm only guessing becasue i'm not a math prodigy you need to find 60 bil in cuts....just to break even....even more if you want to pay down some of our debt...

allright which social programs would you personally cut then  

[NAME REMOVED]

 

"In Oct, I signed a letter with 23 MPs from across Canada, asking the PM to step down and begin a formal process to replace him.  Today, I publicly reiterate my request that the Prime Minister step down and initiate a leadership process to take our country in a new direction."

 

[Army Guy]

Just now, Politics1990 said:

allright which social programs would you personally cut then  

It's not up for me or you to decide, there is a limited amount of options here...Continue to spend like we have been doing and having something like what happen to greece happen, where other nations are in charge of your finances.. or cut expenses via spending like social programs, spending funding to other nations, UN , dictators etc....or raise taxes to pay for your new found social programs which one would you prefer to do....Lets not forget about the elephant in the room call the debt...it needs to come down as well...

[Politics1990]

7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

It's not up for me or you to decide, there is a limited amount of options here...Continue to spend like we have been doing and having something like what happen to greece happen, where other nations are in charge of your finances.. or cut expenses via spending like social programs, spending funding to other nations, UN , dictators etc....or raise taxes to pay for your new found social programs which one would you prefer to do....Lets not forget about the elephant in the room call the debt...it needs to come down as well...

the debt will never  come down lol its just gonna keep rising over time lets be honest

[eyeball]

48 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

PP is not going to cut any oil he is going to ramp up all our resources....oil and gas included...

I thought unleashing just meant doing away with all the red tape holding them back but you figure unleashing also means more  subsidies and tax breaks for oil and gas companies.

I wonder why Poilievre never uses the term unleashing when it comes to the military?

But that said, what if Poilievre did do something like just declare an emergency upon his election and immediately throw $100 billion or so at the military, border security and drug enforcement to appease Trump?

I doubt we'd hear squat from you guys about that deficit.

 

[Army Guy]

6 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

the debt will never  come down lol its just gonna keep rising over time lets be honest

I came down under chretien, which proves it can come down....And thats not a solution, you gave up before even looking for a solution....you sure your not a liberal in Justins cabinet.... 

[Politics1990]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

I thought unleashing just meant doing away with all the red tape holding them back but you figure unleashing also means more  subsidies and tax breaks for oil and gas companies.

I wonder why Poilievre never uses the term unleashing when it comes to the military?

But that said, what if Poilievre did do something like just declare an emergency upon his election and immediately throw $100 billion or so at the military, border security and drug enforcement to appease Trump?

I doubt we'd hear squat from you guys about that deficit.

 

 

 

of course you wouldn't the majority of them would rather be american then canadian anyway on here lol

Just now, Army Guy said:

I came down under chretien, which proves it can come down....And thats not a solution, you gave up before even looking for a solution....you sure your not a liberal in Justins cabinet.... 

positive i been wanting trudeau to go for well over a year lol. i just  ain't gonna be fooled by a snakeoils salesman like PP lol

[suds]

16 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

allright which social programs would you personally cut then  

Reducing the budget of every government department by 10% would be a good place to start. However, meeting our 2% commitment to Nato might help us avoid the 25% tariff.

[Politics1990]

Just now, suds said:

Reducing the budget of every government department by 10% would be a good place to start. However, meeting our 2% commitment to Nato might help us avoid the 25% tariff.

doubt even PP matches the 2% lol

[eyeball]

Christia Freeland seems to have the very qualities and qualifications we need most to deal with the issue of Trump and his tariffs.

She's been both Minister of Foreign Affairs and Finance but most of all she knows how to stand up to a childish narcissistic bully.

[suds]

4 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

doubt even PP matches the 2% lol

If it makes economic sense he will.

[Politics1990]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Christia Freeland seems to have the very qualities and qualifications we need most to deal with the issue of Trump and his tariffs.

She's been both Minister of Foreign Affairs and Finance but most of all she knows how to stand up to a childish narcissistic bully.

well she did make him mad last time to be fair which i enjoyed lol

[Army Guy]

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I thought unleashing just meant doing away with all the red tape holding them back but you figure unleashing also means more  subsidies and tax breaks for oil and gas companies.

I wonder why Poilievre never uses the term unleashing when it comes to the military?

But that said, what if Poilievre did do something like just declare an emergency upon his election and immediately throw $100 billion or so at the military, border security and drug enforcement to appease Trump?

I doubt we'd hear squat from you guys about that deficit.

 

He has said he was going to just that, unleash all our resources and make our economy grow once again....i take it you don't like money is that it...

He has said already he is going to cut foreign aid and give that funding to the military...more than they are getting with the liberals....who cut the military by 1 bil this year alone...and he has already said the military is not his top priority...

You do know it is our nations responsibility for it's own security, not trumps, we have been the ones that decided to let that responsibility slide so you guys could have a few more social programs...well now trump has had enough and there is going to be consequences for being lardards... And who knows what it is going to cost to fix, but what i do know is the tariffs are going to cost a lot more...for you and me.... 

 

[Politics1990]

4 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

He has said he was going to just that, unleash all our resources and make our economy grow once again....i take it you don't like money is that it...

He has said already he is going to cut foreign aid and give that funding to the military...more than they are getting with the liberals....who cut the military by 1 bil this year alone...and he has already said the military is not his top priority...

You do know it is our nations responsibility for it's own security, not trumps, we have been the ones that decided to let that responsibility slide so you guys could have a few more social programs...well now trump has had enough and there is going to be consequences for being lardards... And who knows what it is going to cost to fix, but what i do know is the tariffs are going to cost a lot more...for you and me.... 

 

jeeze why  don't you  go bow down to trump some more lol dear lord

[Army Guy]

17 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

of course you wouldn't the majority of them would rather be american then canadian anyway on here lol

positive i been wanting trudeau to go for well over a year lol. i just  ain't gonna be fooled by a snakeoils salesman like PP lol

your vote is your to use anyways you want....over the last 9 years we had a good look at the liberals /NDP bring to this nation....and what they did or did not do....and if you like scandals . more lies, and deception and a government that has not really done anything of value then sure, vote for anyone of them. but don't expect things or results to change..... 

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

  unleash all our resources ...

"Ours" 🤔 so I own some?

[Army Guy]

Just now, Politics1990 said:

jeeze why  don't you  go bow down to trump some more lol dear lord

I guess we will wait and see....and we will see if trump is serious about Canada making some changes....changes that are our responsibility...