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1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

Not sure but if he does impose the tariffs (not just use them as a chesspiece), there will be inflation in the short term. Short term being the primary element.. folks only care about now not next month. 

The price of goods will increase dramatically, if Trump implements his tariff policies. In addition, he will likely start a trade war, that will almost certainly lead to a depression, and more likely a depression not seen since the 1930s. I guess it will depend on the tolerance of the American consumer to either pay the extra costs, or revolt against Government. 

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Just now, DUI_Offender said:

The price of goods will increase dramatically, if Trump implements his tariff policies. In addition, he will likely start a trade war, that will almost certainly lead to a depression, and more likely a depression not seen since the 1930s. I guess it will depend on the tolerance of the American consumer to either pay the extra costs, or revolt against Government. 

I do not know about a depression. But the reason that the inflation will occur is because some of these goods are not produced in the US and so either we pay higher prices or produce them domestically. To produce them domestically would mean building facilities and a whole litany of processes that would take 2 to 3 years at the absolute minimum. 

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

. In addition, he will likely start a trade war, that will almost certainly lead to a depression

That is stupid. A trade war is a very real possibility and that may lead to economic slowdown but it's not going to lead to a depression. It would probably just make the current recession that we are already in slightly worse and we can the united states briefly

 

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Trump's bigger tariff proposals would cost the typical American household over $2,600 a year

https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2024/trumps-bigger-tariff-proposals-would-cost-typical-american-household-over

$2600/year could push a significant amount of American families over the edge. MOst leading economists agree that the Trump plan to impose tariffs and deport 10 million migrant workers would almost certainly cause the worst recession we have seen in our lifetimes, twice as bad as the 2008-09 economic downturn.

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4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

That is stupid. A trade war is a very real possibility and that may lead to economic slowdown but it's not going to lead to a depression. It would probably just make the current recession that we are already in slightly worse and we can the united states briefly

 

quoted wrong person. 

Posted
5 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Not sure but if he does impose the tariffs (not just use them as a chesspiece), there will be inflation in the short term. Short term being the primary element.. folks only care about now not next month. 

If he continues to push them in the face of retaliatory trade actions already being promised by China, there will def be significant increases in prices.

Posted
5 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

quoted wrong person. 

Yeah, for some reason despite the fact that all he did was quote you it wanted to stick your name there no matter what I did. I've got it fixed now. Apologies

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

"My side" lost because too many Democratic voters believed Trump and FOS LIES LIKE YOU ALWAYS defend here. 🤮

Your side lost because too many people saw through your thin veil of lies realized you were dishonest sacks of crap.

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On 12/12/2024 at 9:53 PM, robosmith said:

"My side" lost because too many Democratic voters believed Trump and FOS LIES LIKE YOU ALWAYS defend here. 🤮

Your side lost because enough democrats decided that America is worth saving.

The democrat party is 100% woketard now. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, Deluge said:

Your side lost because enough democrats decided that America is worth saving.

The democrat party is 100% woketard now. 

Just more ^BULLSHIT, as USUAL. Only the MAGA CULT believes YOUR BULLSHIT.

Posted
2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Just more ^BULLSHIT, as USUAL. Only the MAGA CULT believes YOUR BULLSHIT.

There's only one cult in this country, and it's the democrat party. 

Everyone one of you stunted perverts should be locked up for treason. 

Posted
3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Just more ^BULLSHIT, as USUAL. Only the MAGA CULT believes YOUR BULLSHIT.

Yeash dude,  everyone knows you know you're wrong but you're too butthurt to admit it when you go all 'capsaholic' like that  :) 

You should avoid anger typing. It's  no good for your heart OR your caps key

Posted
On 12/6/2024 at 10:23 PM, robosmith said:

More acutely, this survey has seen a pronounced partisan dynamic emerge, arguably in response to the Trump presidency and the Trumpification of presidential politics.

Proponents of the Biden presidency have strong arguments in their arsenal, but his high placement within the top 15 suggests a powerful anti-Trump factor at work. So far, Biden’s record does not include the military victories or institutional expansion that have typically driven higher rankings, and a family scandal such as the one involving his son Hunter normally diminishes a president’s ranking....

Academics do lean left, but that hasn’t changed since our previous surveys. What these results suggest is not just an added emphasis on a president’s political affiliation, but also the emergence of a president’s fealty to political and institutional norms as a criterion for what makes a president “great” to the scholars who study them.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-18/trump-biden-presidents-day-ranking-poll-election-2024

Even the two authors of this survey, Rottinghaus and Vaughn, admit the left biases of their "experts".  Historians and political scientists always seem to trend far left, as evidenced by such assessments of the presidents.

What you see in such rankings is called "presentism", which is the interpretation of history through the lens of today's biases and political/social fads.

As an example, anyone that knows the historical details would never put a dictatorial leader like Lincoln in first place. And these "experts" have Truman in 6th place!

Greatness-2024-Ranking.png

 

 

Posted
15 hours ago, Deluge said:

There's only one cult in this country, and it's the democrat party. 

Everyone one of you stunted perverts should be locked up for treason. 

You can't even cite ONE FACTOR which makes the Democratic Party a cult.

The MAGA CULT has only one der leader, while Democrats easily replaced Biden. Duh

Only a MAGA CULT fanatic would NOT UNDERSTAND that, and you've proven that's YOU.

Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. You can't even cite ONE FACTOR which makes the Democratic Party a cult.

2. The MAGA CULT has only one der leader, while Democrats easily replaced Biden. Duh

Only a MAGA CULT fanatic would NOT UNDERSTAND that, and you've proven that's YOU.

1. Sure I can, roboworm, check out this link to the democrat party's own temple of democracy! 

https://templeofdemocracy.com/index.html#/

Remember, Pelosi herself once referred to their building as a temple of democracy when asked about the January 6 attacks. Cultists say shit like that, and also post shit like in that link. 

2. The Republican party is becoming THE party of the U.S. Constitution. You should stop playing with your ouija board and join in. ;) 

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On 12/19/2024 at 10:03 AM, Deluge said:

1. Sure I can, roboworm, check out this link to the democrat party's own temple of democracy! 

https://templeofdemocracy.com/index.html#/

Nothing at your cite authored by Edward H. Sebesta links it to the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Duh

On 12/19/2024 at 10:03 AM, Deluge said:

Remember, Pelosi herself once referred to their building as a temple of democracy when asked about the January 6 attacks. Cultists say shit like that, and also post shit like in that link. 

A LOT of people consider the Capitol to be a METAPHORICAL temple of democracy. YOU'VE FAILED.

On 12/19/2024 at 10:03 AM, Deluge said:

2. The Republican party is becoming THE party of the U.S. Constitution. You should stop playing with your ouija board and join in. ;) 

Not when Trump USED VIOLENCE to DISRUPT the EC vote count. Duh

YOU'RE DELUGINAL, AGAIN.

Posted
3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. Nothing at your cite authored by Edward H. Sebesta links it to the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Duh

2. A LOT of people consider the Capitol to be a METAPHORICAL temple of democracy. YOU'VE FAILED.

3. Not when Trump USED VIOLENCE to DISRUPT the EC vote count. Duh

YOU'RE DELUGINAL, AGAIN.

1. Sorry, robocultist, everything on that website meets your approval. It's a cultists site and you are 100% behind it. 

2. Wrong. CULTISTS name government buildings their temples. It's what satan worshipping cultists do. 

3. Sorry, comrade, your party is washed up. No more force feeding your woke bullshit to American citizens. ;) 

 

Posted
On 12/19/2024 at 6:25 AM, Contrarius said:

More acutely, this survey has seen a pronounced partisan dynamic emerge, arguably in response to the Trump presidency and the Trumpification of presidential politics.

Proponents of the Biden presidency have strong arguments in their arsenal, but his high placement within the top 15 suggests a powerful anti-Trump factor at work. So far, Biden’s record does not include the military victories or institutional expansion that have typically driven higher rankings, and a family scandal such as the one involving his son Hunter normally diminishes a president’s ranking....

Academics do lean left, but that hasn’t changed since our previous surveys. What these results suggest is not just an added emphasis on a president’s political affiliation, but also the emergence of a president’s fealty to political and institutional norms as a criterion for what makes a president “great” to the scholars who study them.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-18/trump-biden-presidents-day-ranking-poll-election-2024

Even the two authors of this survey, Rottinghaus and Vaughn, admit the left biases of their "experts".  Historians and political scientists always seem to trend far left, as evidenced by such assessments of the presidents.

What you see in such rankings is called "presentism", which is the interpretation of history through the lens of today's biases and political/social fads.

As an example, anyone that knows the historical details would never put a dictatorial leader like Lincoln in first place. And these "experts" have Truman in 6th place!

Greatness-2024-Ranking.png

 

 

Per your cite:

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Academics do lean left, but that hasn’t changed since our previous surveys. 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Per your cite:

 

All you've proven is that Contrarius is correct and your poll was biased. No...it was propaganda. And you bought it.

The Rules for Liberal tactics:

  1. If they can't refute the content, attack the source.
  2. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster.
  3. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened.
  4. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler.
  5. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition.
  6. If they are wrong, blame the opponent.
  7. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa.
  8. If all else fails, just be angry.
Posted
6 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Biden presidency being ranked 14th out of all presidencies is a once in a lifetime joke.

That's why he was reelected after all... Oh no he wasn't.

Even the dead people who voted for him last time said "nope"

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