US Health Care system has failed America (The Brian Thompson CEO Assassination)

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Matthew said:

I don't believe shame has any societal value and I think most of the insecurities people carry in life stem from our culture's misplaced reliance on shame.

You've got some seriously mixed messages going on in this thread then. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

The value is in holding public figures who are accountable to all of us to some standard of behaviour.

How could that not have value ?

Well after he was shot, sure.  Nobody heard of him before.

Right - so like if society didn't like gays we should shame them till they smarten up right? A lot of people felt they needed to be held to a higher standard of behavior. 

Or we should just shame trans people till they learn to behave better. 

Unless you have evidence to the contrary this exec did not break any laws, did not do anything wrong.  If you feel something the company did is so bad that it shouldn't' be allowed then change the law. 

But if you're going to go with public shaming for behavior you don't like.... you better be willing to accept people you DO like being shamed because others have a different opinion. 

Typical leftie - always want YOUR rules pushed on others but not so eager the other way around. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Matthew said:

I agree, though to be clear I do think vigilante justice ought to be illegal and if the killer is found he ought to be fully prosecuted and that the police should fully use their normal effort at capturing him. Rule of law and due process are valuable parts of our political culture.

In this sense the classic folk hero rebel vigilante is willing to sacrifice his own freedom and safety for his just cause. But yeah people overwhelmingly seem to be hoping he stays at large.

TBH, lots of Americans sign up to fight in wars where they might die, lose libs, get their faces burned beyone recognition, and/or end up being POWs and being tortured. For what? So that terrorists in Afghanistan shoot a few less girls over a 15-yr period, and then things just go back to normal after the troops withdraw?

Not much is achieved in those wars and the risk is far greater than what you'd face in America for one murder.  

[Black Dog]

They got a suspect and based on his public social media posts, he's a weird techbro, apparently.

[gatomontes99]

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The person of interest nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from “Unabomber’’ Ted Kaczynski — and apparently hated the medical community because of how it treated his sick relative, law-enforcement sources told The Post on Monday.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/person-of-interest-in-fatal-shooting-of-unitedhealthcare-boss-brian-thompson-idd-as-luigi-mangione-an-ex-ivy-league-student/

Our "Ivy Leagues" have become a breading ground for radicals and pyschopaths.

Edited December 9, 2024 by gatomontes99

[eyeball]

32 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Our "I've Leagues" have become a breading ground for radicals and pyschopaths.

Probably not as many psychopaths as radicals which are a problem too but apparently only 8% of CEO's are Ivy League yet 12% of CEO's are psychopaths.

12% of corporate leaders are psychopaths. It’s time to take this problem seriously

https://fortune.com/2021/06/06/corporate-psychopaths-business-leadership-csr/

  

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Probably not as many psychopaths as radicals which are a problem too but apparently only 8% of CEO's are Ivy League yet 12% of CEO's are psychopaths.

12% of corporate leaders are psychopaths. It’s time to take this problem seriously

https://fortune.com/2021/06/06/corporate-psychopaths-business-leadership-csr/

  

Well the CEOs aren't the ones out there shooting people

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Suspect in fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson ID’d as Luigi Mangione, an ex-Ivy League student

The suspect nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from “Unabomber’’ Ted Kaczynski — and seethed in a manifesto, “These parasites had it coming,” law enforcement sources told The Post on Monday.

Tech whiz Luigi Mangione, 26, originally from Towson, Md., apparently hated the medical community because of how it treated his sick relative, sources said.

He has not been charged in the slaying but was taken into custody Monday morning while eating at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pa., ending an intense manhunt sparked by the coldblooded execution of Thompson outside a Manhattan hotel last week, sources said.

The former prep school valedictorian was caught with a ghost gun that uses 9mm bullets, a silencer, a US passport, four fake IDs with names used during the killer’s stint in New York City and the manifesto, sources said. The manifesto consisted of two and a half handwritten pages that mirrored the quotes that Mangione posted on his Goodreads account from wacky anti-establishment Ted Kaczynski, the infamous “Unabomber’’ who terrorized the country for nearly two decades by mailing deadly bombs before he was nabbed in 1996, sources said.

 

“Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness,’’ Kaczynski wrote at one point in a quote liked by Mangione.

“Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual’s internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.’’

The manifesto said the suspect acted alone, sources said.

Mangione had a particularly personal reason to hate the medical community — its treatment of an ailing relative, sources said. Online obituaries show he lost a grandmother in 2013 and grandfather in 2017.

His LinkedIn page indicates that he once worked in an assisted-living facility for the elderly for a few months in 2014, while still in high school. It is unclear if Mangione has yet made any statements to cops.

Mangione also subscribed to anti-capitalist and climate-change causes, according to law-enforcement sources, citing online activity gleaned by authorities.

Mangione was valedictorian of his 2016 high school graduating class at the Gilman School in Baltimore, where he played soccer, according to online sites. High school tuition at the all-boys school is nearly $40,000 a year.

He said at the time of graduation that he planned to seek a degree in artificial intelligence, focused on the areas of computer science and cognitive science at the University of Pennsylvania, according to an interview with the Baltimore Fishbowl.

The tech hotshot graduated cum laude from the private Ivy League institution in Philadelphia with a Bachelor of Science in Engineering (BSE), Computer and Information Science in 2020, according to his LinkedIn profile.

He also completed a Master of Science in Engineering (MSE), Computer and Information Science at the University of Pennsylvania, his profile states. His LinkedIn suggests he is a data engineer at a car company based in California, although he lists his current home as Honolulu in Hawaii.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/person-of-interest-in-fatal-shooting-of-unitedhealthcare-boss-brian-thompson-idd-as-luigi-mangione-an-ex-ivy-league-student/

This is a sad day. I was really rooting for the shooter to never be found.

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Probably not as many psychopaths as radicals which are a problem too but apparently only 8% of CEO's are Ivy League yet 12% of CEO's are psychopaths.

12% of corporate leaders are psychopaths. It’s time to take this problem seriously

https://fortune.com/2021/06/06/corporate-psychopaths-business-leadership-csr/

  

Only 12%? 

I have heard in the past, it may be as high as 25%

[Black Dog]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well the CEOs aren't the ones out there shooting people

Why do they need to when they can murder people legally and get applauded for it?

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

Why do they need to when they can murder people legally and get applauded for it?

And which CEO do you know of gun to anyone down?  Or personally murdered anyone. 

None? Not one?  Ok then. 

[User]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Why do they need to when they can murder people legally and get applauded for it?

Are you ever honest about anything?

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Suspect in fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson ID’d as Luigi Mangione, an ex-Ivy League student

The suspect nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from “Unabomber’’ Ted Kaczynski — and seethed in a manifesto, “These parasites had it coming,” law enforcement sources told The Post on Monday.

Tech whiz Luigi Mangione, 26, originally from Towson, Md., apparently hated the medical community because of how it treated his sick relative, sources said.

He has not been charged in the slaying but was taken into custody Monday morning while eating at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pa., ending an intense manhunt sparked by the coldblooded execution of Thompson outside a Manhattan hotel last week, sources said.

The former prep school valedictorian was caught with a ghost gun that uses 9mm bullets, a silencer, a US passport, four fake IDs with names used during the killer’s stint in New York City and the manifesto, sources said. The manifesto consisted of two and a half handwritten pages that mirrored the quotes that Mangione posted on his Goodreads account from wacky anti-establishment Ted Kaczynski, the infamous “Unabomber’’ who terrorized the country for nearly two decades by mailing deadly bombs before he was nabbed in 1996, sources said.

 

“Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness,’’ Kaczynski wrote at one point in a quote liked by Mangione.

“Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual’s internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.’’

The manifesto said the suspect acted alone, sources said.

Mangione had a particularly personal reason to hate the medical community — its treatment of an ailing relative, sources said. Online obituaries show he lost a grandmother in 2013 and grandfather in 2017.

His LinkedIn page indicates that he once worked in an assisted-living facility for the elderly for a few months in 2014, while still in high school. It is unclear if Mangione has yet made any statements to cops.

Mangione also subscribed to anti-capitalist and climate-change causes, according to law-enforcement sources, citing online activity gleaned by authorities.

Mangione was valedictorian of his 2016 high school graduating class at the Gilman School in Baltimore, where he played soccer, according to online sites. High school tuition at the all-boys school is nearly $40,000 a year.

He said at the time of graduation that he planned to seek a degree in artificial intelligence, focused on the areas of computer science and cognitive science at the University of Pennsylvania, according to an interview with the Baltimore Fishbowl.

The tech hotshot graduated cum laude from the private Ivy League institution in Philadelphia with a Bachelor of Science in Engineering (BSE), Computer and Information Science in 2020, according to his LinkedIn profile.

He also completed a Master of Science in Engineering (MSE), Computer and Information Science at the University of Pennsylvania, his profile states. His LinkedIn suggests he is a data engineer at a car company based in California, although he lists his current home as Honolulu in Hawaii.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/person-of-interest-in-fatal-shooting-of-unitedhealthcare-boss-brian-thompson-idd-as-luigi-mangione-an-ex-ivy-league-student/

This is a sad day. I was really rooting for the shooter to never be found.

Only 12%? 

I have heard in the past, it may be as high as 25%

  The left's new hero. 

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Our "Ivy Leagues" have become a breading ground for radicals and pyschopaths.

Citation required.

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And which CEO do you know of gun to anyone down?  Or personally murdered anyone. 

None? Not one?  Ok then. 

7 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Why do they need to when they can murder people legally and get applauded for it?

 

[gatomontes99]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Citation required.

[Matthew]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well the CEOs aren't the ones out there shooting people

Why would a CEO making tons money off of killing people want to shoot someone?

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Is that Epstein's jet that Trump flew on?

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

 

Couldnt come up with even one huh?

Perhaps more of those execs would be willing to murder people if they were democrats? You lefties seem to be all about the violence and carnage these days

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Why would a CEO making tons money off of killing people want to shoot someone?

I say you couldn't come up with the name of a single person that a CEO killed personally either?

These imaginary dead people that they killed.... Are they in the room with you right now?

They sell an insurance product. If you don't like the insurance product don't buy the insurance product. Buy a different insurance product. And if you feel the laws around the insurance products need to be changed then you Lobby and have the laws changed.

The CEOs are not killing anybody. But left Wingers like you are.

[gatomontes99]

11 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Is that Epstein's jet that Trump flew on?

It's not my fault you don't get it.

[Black Dog]

6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

It's not my fault you don't get it.

I got it, it wasn't very funny, so I thought I'd remind you your president is a pedophile.

[gatomontes99]

Just now, Black Dog said:

I got it, it wasn't very funny, so I thought I'd remind you your president is a pedophile.

You didnt get it so you are shìt posting.

[Black Dog]

Just now, gatomontes99 said:

You didnt get it so you are shìt posting.

You're accusing me of shitposting after shitposting a dumb joke?

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32 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Why would a CEO making tons money off of killing people want to shoot someone?

One of the theories I had about this murder, was that it could have been an inside job. Wasn't Brian Thompson subpoenaed to testify in Congress about unethical business practices of UnitedHealth Group, which included violating antitrust laws, and overcharging consumers?  I could have seen someone paying off an assassin to prevent him from testifying.

However, it appears it was motivated by the assassins ideology. 

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This will be his downfall