August1991 Posted November 23, 2024 Report Posted November 23, 2024 (edited) This is bad on so many levels. At least Harper cut the GST permanently. == To have a civilised society, we need taxes. Tax compliance is a better measure of democracy than voter turn out. Quote me. Our federal GST is a remarkable tax. Mulroney did it. The US (public debt/gdp ratio is above 100 and rising) is the only civilised state without a federal VAT. Rand Paul, take note. Edited November 23, 2024 by August1991 Quote
herbie Posted November 23, 2024 Report Posted November 23, 2024 Thanks for telling us Capt. Obvious. Kind of like beating the dead horse of the axe the carbon tax for years like it's gonna make us wealthy or something is for the unimaginative Opposition. Quote
Army Guy Posted November 23, 2024 Report Posted November 23, 2024 Now all those lefties can finally pay off that sex change surgery they've dreamed about....there is a guy down the street that does it for half of that he just uses a axe....and a bottle of that cheap Jack daniels so there might or might not be an infection, he says he just likes to hear the screams when he pours it on... He also does front end lobodime's with a hammer and a small nail punch, but he can't figure out why not many survive, but its cheap...make sure you tell him your a lefty...tell him army guy sent you... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted November 23, 2024 Report Posted November 23, 2024 3 hours ago, August1991 said: This is bad on so many levels. At least Harper cut the GST permanently. == True. This is just harmful Quote To have a civilised society, we need taxes. To have a civilized society taxes must be kept to a minimum necessary to deliver core services and nothing more Quote Tax compliance is a better measure of democracy than voter turn out. Quote me. It is no such thing and trust me you probably don't want that quoted to you. Quote Our federal GST is a remarkable tax. Mulroney did it. It's one of the only tax that poor people pay. It's remarkable in that respect Quote The US (public debt/gdp ratio is above 100 and rising) is the only civilised state without a federal VAT. Rand Paul, take note. Ours is rising faster and we have the GST. Lefties take note Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
August1991 Posted November 23, 2024 Author Report Posted November 23, 2024 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: .... Ours is rising faster and we have the GST. Lefties take note Disagree. By any measure, Cdn govt (sub/federal) debt to GDP ratio is well below 100%. True, since Trudeau Jnr, it is rising ===== The US is another story. It is a Ponzi scheme. The US debt (sub/federal) is rising faster than GDP growth. This is not sustainable. I suspect that Trump -like Mulroney- will impose a US federal consumption tax (VAT). Quote
August1991 Posted November 23, 2024 Author Report Posted November 23, 2024 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: Now all those lefties can finally pay off that sex change surgery they've dreamed about... AG, most people are right-handed. But some are lefties. A civilised state makes both get along. Quote
Dougie93 Posted November 23, 2024 Report Posted November 23, 2024 14 hours ago, August1991 said: This is bad on so many levels. At least Harper cut the GST permanently. == To have a civilised society, we need taxes. Tax compliance is a better measure of democracy than voter turn out. Quote me. Our federal GST is a remarkable tax. Mulroney did it. The US (public debt/gdp ratio is above 100 and rising) is the only civilised state without a federal VAT. meanwhile the American economy is booming while Canada's economy is moribund Americans are 40% richer than Canadians per capita with the Canadian dollar spiralling down against the USD Quote
CdnFox Posted November 23, 2024 Report Posted November 23, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, August1991 said: Disagree. By any measure, Cdn govt (sub/federal) debt to GDP ratio is well below 100%. True, since Trudeau Jnr, it is rising I literally said is rising faster under Trudeau than it is in the US, and you reply by saying you disagree but it's definitely rising faster under Trudeau than it is in the US Have you ever considered not being a complete effing tard!?! Because that would be great Edited November 23, 2024 by CdnFox Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
August1991 Posted November 27, 2024 Author Report Posted November 27, 2024 On 11/23/2024 at 10:54 AM, Dougie93 said: meanwhile the American economy is booming while Canada's economy is moribund Americans are 40% richer than Canadians per capita with the Canadian dollar spiralling down against the USD Agreed, on your first two points. But as to your third point, I disagree with the implication. The value of a currency is not a signal of well-being: ask any older woman who dyes her hair. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 27, 2024 Report Posted November 27, 2024 2 hours ago, August1991 said: Agreed, on your first two points. But as to your third point, I disagree with the implication. The value of a currency is not a signal of well-being: ask any older woman who dyes her hair. The value of a currency is definitely without a doubt a signal of well-being of a country. In a world of fiat currency, the value is basically a statement on how the rest of the world sees your economy. If they see your economy is strong and that people are likely to invest in your country than the dollar tends to go up. If they see you as weak and your economy failing then the dollar tends to go down. Our current dollar is not a good sign Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
August1991 Posted November 27, 2024 Author Report Posted November 27, 2024 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: The value of a currency is definitely without a doubt a signal of well-being of a country. .... Disagree. If you are retired and fly to Cuba or buy stuff at Dollarama, a lower Canadian dollar is hurtful. But if you live in Canada and make stuff, we are now priced better. Some win, some lose. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 27, 2024 Report Posted November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, August1991 said: Disagree. And you're wrong and Also ignorant of basic currency trading 1 hour ago, August1991 said: If you are retired and fly to Cuba or buy stuff at Dollarama, a lower Canadian dollar is hurtful. That is one of the stupidest things you have said in the entire time I have known you. And it was up against some pretty stiff competition. First off that proves my point. A low dollar occurs when people have lack of faith in Canada and a low dollar hurts you. Whether you're in Cuba or not you weirdo. 1 hour ago, August1991 said: But if you live in Canada and make stuff, we are now priced better. No we are not. In order to make things we must either buy the materials from other people, Or produce the material ourselves. If our dollar is low then purchasing it from other people costs more money and hurts us. Materials ourselves the cost still goes up because people around the world are willing to pay More money for the same product because their dollar is worth more and we still have to compete against that because there's nothing stopping somebody from selling their product elsewhere. So of course they're going to charge the going world market rate. If somebody is willing to pay $10 a bushel for wheat in American dollars and our dollar is low then we have to pay a lot more Canadian dollars to be able to buy that same bushel of wheat even if it was grown here. So you're entirely wrong, but the funny thing is you didn't even address what I said. You claim you disagreed and then went off on a completely different tangent. What I said is that the value of a dollar is a signal of a country's well-being. The stronger the country is the higher its dollar value. And nothing you said there addresses that Why are you so weird? Nothing I've said about is even remotely controversial, it's pretty common knowledge Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Dougie93 Posted November 27, 2024 Report Posted November 27, 2024 (edited) 12 hours ago, August1991 said: Agreed, on your first two points. But as to your third point, I disagree with the implication. The value of a currency is not a signal of well-being: ask any older woman who dyes her hair. I would agree that a low dollar is a double edged sword decreasing the price of exports, while increasing the price of imports however, in this context, what it signals is a decrease in foreign investment to Canada in favour of increasing investment in America instead critically, President Trump is signalling that America will take less resources from Canada producing those resources in America instead, particularly energy resources although clearly President Trump seeks to leverage Canada into providing America with bulk water exports which Canada currently declines to provide and of course President Trump is going to punish Canada for its lack of security investment using trade protectionism as the ship on terms of Canada "fighting fire with fire" by retaliation that is obviously a bluff, Canada can't win a trade war with America, so Canada will fold mind you, Canada's parochial protectionism is in fact counterproductive thus Canada "losing" this war would actually a net win for the Canadian consumer Edited November 27, 2024 by Dougie93 Quote
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