Who will Make Canada Great Again?

[Army Guy]

On 11/23/2024 at 8:21 PM, herbie said:

Better yet, anyone who thinks Canada needs to be "great" can move south.

The rest of us will settle for Canada being "best".

Best at what exactly, making maple syrup, poutine, spending others money, so many social programs,  really tell us what canada is best at...just a couple of lines...i can't think of anything we are the best at...we not even the best at hockey...or beer drinking....although we are pretty good at whining and complaining , lets not forget pointing fingers, not stepping up and owning our mistakes...screwing others over, we are almost the best at that...

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Greatness implies power, something Canada's never been interested in.
It would be better if we could merely return being the moderating influence that we were in previous years.

Thats the thing we are not even consider a moderating power, not even a nation with any influence over anything global...Under the Liberals/NDP Canada is almost irrelevant when it comes to anything... 

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

I totally bristle at any suggestion that we copy the US in any way shape or form. Jaysus Christ, we are Canadians. We know who we are, and don't need any direction from our big-headed cousins to the South. Yeah, we love them, but they can never capture the coolness of being Canadian. 

Lol, how many movies do we have watch about "Americans save the world!" 

Just give me my campfire, a doobie, a smirk at the silliness of human beings, and a Vodka with Bubly.

Canadian laugh at the truth of their existence, but Americans take it much too seriously.

 

while you've been high the world has passed you by....Sir, it is the great Canadian dream to think we are NOT american...and yet most of what we do is American...without America we would cease to exist....Americas fart in the wind and we feel it here somehow...

only in your minds does anyone think Canadians are cool, everything in our federal government is broken, we need to rob 6 banks to buy a home, millions are eating out of food banks, our government has ruined our inter national reputation and standing...I guess if cool means treating our homeless like criminals, our vets like shit, giving out free drugs becasue the situation is almost hopeless....our senior population like a burden...Our own government has said we don't have any culture to speak of, diversity is our best friend, and has been used like a weapon....only people of any color, creed, race, or religion, are cool as long as your not white if your white you can never be cool....it's uncool to think your cool if your white...unless your part of the LGBTQ community then you can be cool again... 

How many times has Canada saved the world, we can't even save ourselves....maybe if we made our own movies that we would watch we can't even do that we are to cool...we are just jealous of our neighbors to the south we need to poke fun about them to not break down crying over there freedoms that we don't have....

We don't laugh at our existence we dream about being some place else where leaders of a nation make good decisions and place country above themselves and do not rob this nation of it's own tax dollars to benefit themselves...

everyone likes a good doobie, and a case of beer now and then....but you have to be on it every night to smile and think we as a nation are cool...when in reality we are all on the short bus, drooling and licking the windows wishing we could be an American....

[Radiorum]

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Sir, it is the great Canadian dream to think we are NOT american

I think we are most like them at the family level. I think both American and Canadian parents want the same for their children - to be safe and healthy, to be responsible, to have empathy, to strive for excellence, to succeed in life.

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

without America we would cease to exist.

I know this is true. And I recognize the very important leadership role the US plays in the world as the  protector of democracy. "Democracy dies in darkness" and Putin is pulling the wool over many eyes.

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

we are just jealous of our neighbors to the south

I may not have made this plain, but I have a very great affection for the US. I have always considered Americans as my cousins. And it concerns me deeply to see what is going on down there now.

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

wishing we could be an American....

I don't see this sentiment in my circle.

[Politics1990]

well it won't be PP  i can tell you that lol

[BlahTheCanuck]

Canada is still great. It did not stop being great just because of one incompetent Prime Minister.

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

I think we are most like them at the family level. I think both American and Canadian parents want the same for their children - to be safe and healthy, to be responsible, to have empathy, to strive for excellence, to succeed in life.

I know this is true. And I recognize the very important leadership role the US plays in the world as the  protector of democracy. "Democracy dies in darkness" and Putin is pulling the wool over many eyes.

I may not have made this plain, but I have a very great affection for the US. I have always considered Americans as my cousins. And it concerns me deeply to see what is going on down there now.

I don't see this sentiment in my circle.

And yet why does so many Canadians go out of their way to tell the world they are not american, that we are so much different, that we blame them for most of the worlds problems....I think we are more than family, we are the same only separated by a border.

Canadians take advantage of Americans when ever we can, economically, for defense, even in our international relations, at almost every topic there is...Had this relationship been the other way around we would be dissing the americans as lazy, unappreciative, deceitful, not to be trusted in any way....Putin has nothing to do with this, we have been doing it for decades, and only recently has anyone really brought it up over and over and over again...we are not a reliable partner period. and somehow most Canadians take pride in that...and then wonder why nobody wants to really sit down and talk with us...

The US should just kick us out of all our defensive alliances, NATO, NORAD, 5 EYES, all of them, until we can get our sh!t together...use us as an example of this is what happens when to purposely don't adhere to the agreements you signed on to...

I've served alongside of US forces in many parts of the worlds sh!t holes. they have my deepest respect, and in many cases considered them brothers in arms...and sadly more resect for them than i do have for average Canadians...  

If i could i would have moved a long time ago to the states, I served this nation for 34 years, and while i'm proud of my service and hold those i served with, with the highest regards, in most cases my own nation let us down big time, and as a vet it disgusts me how this once great nation treats it's vets...This is not just my opinion, this is most vets i talk to...And canadians know all of this, and sit and watch, almost as if they say glad i'm not one of them poor bastards...when They ( Canadians)are the ones that hold the power to change all of this....

1 hour ago, BlahTheCanuck said:

Canada is still great. It did not stop being great just because of one incompetent Prime Minister.

How so, what makes canada so great....talk to me goose...

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

well it won't be PP  i can tell you that lol

You know this how, an assumption or based on facts......what makes you think PP is not going to do a better job...And while PP is not my favorite pick he is what we have in the seat today after uptine tries ....although i did offer my bet hamster, who i think could have done a better job than justin...

[Nefarious Banana]

23 hours ago, Radiorum said:

 We know who we are, and don't need any direction from our big-headed cousins to the south.

Wrong!  We don't know who we are . . . or even what we want to be.  Adrift in a leaking boat.  Sad

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Wrong!  We don't know who we are . . . or even what we want to be.  Adrift in a leaking boat.  Sad

the vast majority of "Canadians" have already become de facto Americans by way of the internet

"Canadian" Americans are simply useful id1ots for the Democrat party traitors to the republic

MAGA Republicans are frankly far too lenient towards "Canada"

the Eagle with thunderbolts in talons grasped should rightly view "Canada" as an enemy of American freedom

How are you, Minstrel Johnny Bull ? We'll settle next with you . . .

[athos]

8 hours ago, Radiorum said:

I think we are most like them at the family level. I think both American and Canadian parents want the same for their children - to be safe and healthy, to be responsible, to have empathy, to strive for excellence, to succeed in life.

I know this is true. And I recognize the very important leadership role the US plays in the world as the  protector of democracy. "Democracy dies in darkness" and Putin is pulling the wool over many eyes.

I may not have made this plain, but I have a very great affection for the US. I have always considered Americans as my cousins. And it concerns me deeply to see what is going on down there now.

I don't see this sentiment in my circle.

I agree. Unlike real sovereign countries, there are regions in the world whose destiny is to be someone's puppet colony forever.

[Dougie93]

On 11/24/2024 at 6:59 PM, Radiorum said:

 We know who we are,

a Post National State with no core identity

translation ;

a Democrat party proxy fake country which went so far up its own Woke lunatic leftist ass

that it ceased to exist

[Radiorum]

7 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

well it won't be PP  i can tell you that lol

I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

[Radiorum]

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

And yet why does so many Canadians go out of their way to tell the world they are not american, that we are so much different, that we blame them for most of the worlds problems....I think we are more than family, we are the same only separated by a border.

Canadians take advantage of Americans when ever we can, economically, for defense, even in our international relations, at almost every topic there is...Had this relationship been the other way around we would be dissing the americans as lazy, unappreciative, deceitful, not to be trusted in any way....Putin has nothing to do with this, we have been doing it for decades, and only recently has anyone really brought it up over and over and over again...we are not a reliable partner period. and somehow most Canadians take pride in that...and then wonder why nobody wants to really sit down and talk with us...

The US should just kick us out of all our defensive alliances, NATO, NORAD, 5 EYES, all of them, until we can get our sh!t together...use us as an example of this is what happens when to purposely don't adhere to the agreements you signed on to...

I've served alongside of US forces in many parts of the worlds sh!t holes. they have my deepest respect, and in many cases considered them brothers in arms...and sadly more resect for them than i do have for average Canadians...  

If i could i would have moved a long time ago to the states, I served this nation for 34 years, and while i'm proud of my service and hold those i served with, with the highest regards, in most cases my own nation let us down big time, and as a vet it disgusts me how this once great nation treats it's vets...This is not just my opinion, this is most vets i talk to...And canadians know all of this, and sit and watch, almost as if they say glad i'm not one of them poor bastards...when They ( Canadians)are the ones that hold the power to change all of this....

How so, what makes canada so great....talk to me goose...

 

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I am sorry you are feeling disillusioned with Canada. I've always been a very proud Canadian, so it's easy for me to speak, but I haven't seen what you have seen. And it's always in the one-on-one relationships that we find the deepest meaning, eh?

[Radiorum]

I have to disagree with some of the comments made about the Canadian identity. I think there is a pronounced Canadian identity. This goes all the way back to our founding. I've done a lot of reading about the battle for the continent back in the 18th century, resulting in those with an emphasis on community settling in Canada and those with an emphasis on individual rights remaining in the US. This is probably the biggest difference between us.

I see a lot more arrogance from Americans, too. Canadians are humble. Americans don't laugh at themselves as much as we do. And of course the stereotype is true - we are more courteous and kind. It's true - we say sorry a lot!

I hope you'll take the few minutes to watch the video below which nicely sums up what it means to be Canadian

(BTW Chris Hadfield was  NASA astronaut)

 

[Dougie93]

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

If i could i would have moved a long time ago to the states,

last of the United Empire Loyalists

defending the free world in the name of the British Crown in North America

a Scots German Empire to find a Northwest Passage

Canada Bereft broods over the fallen upon Hill One Four Five at Pas de Calais

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I have to disagree with some of the comments made about the Canadian identity. I think there is a pronounced Canadian identity. This goes all the way back to our founding. I've done a lot of reading about the battle for the continent back in the 18th century, resulting in those with an emphasis on community settling in Canada and those with an emphasis on individual rights remaining in the US. This is probably the biggest difference between us.

I see a lot more arrogance from Americans, too. Canadians are humble. Americans don't laugh at themselves as much as we do. And of course the stereotype is true - we are more courteous and kind. It's true - we say sorry a lot!

I hope you'll take the few minutes to watch the video below which nicely sums up what it means to be Canadian

(BTW Chris Hadfield was  NASA astronaut)

 

There used to be but there really isn't anymore We used to be more courteous and kind but let me tell you we are not anymore. That has gone severely downhill.

Canadians used to be humble. The joke has always been that the America has so many things that they're proud of, well Canadians are proud of the fact they're not Americans. And we're not as an arrogant as they are it's true, but Now Canadians are entitled. We have become a nation of Karen's.

We are unwilling to stand up for what's right and yet we rush to defend that which really isn't. Truckers thrown out of work by forced drug policies and medical treatments are declared enemies of the state, while people screaming for the death of Canada and all of its Jews while burning cities don't even warrant a comment from the prime minister.

There is very little Canadian identity to be proud of these days. Justin Trudeau has pretty much destroyed it, hitting right against left, rich against poor, east versus west, urban versus rural, gay versus straight, christian versus Muslim, and any other group he can find where he can create division and then milk it for votes.

Sorry kid. You were born about 15 years too late for a Canadian identity

 

[Dougie93]

45 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 Canadians are humble.

nonsense

Canadians are the most priggish, sneering, self righteous snobs on the face of the earth

as a desperate defence mechanism of course

in the face of an American juggernaut at their gates

 

[Dougie93]

52 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 And of course the stereotype is true - we are more courteous and kind. It's true - we say sorry a lot!

Canadians are courteous, but not kind

Canadians are polite, but cold

while Americans are rowdy, yet warm

Canadians are passive aggressive, which originates in Canada's 19th century Victorian society

Canadians fancy themselves to be superior,

there is a deep seated impulse in Canada to emulate the British Victorians therein

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

 This goes all the way back to our founding. I've done a lot of reading about the battle for the continent back in the 18th century, resulting in those with an emphasis on community settling in Canada and those with an emphasis on individual rights remaining in the US. This is probably the biggest difference between us.

which founding ?

the founding of Canada by the House of Bourbon at Quebec in 1603 ?

or the founding of British North America by the House of Hanover in 1763 ?

are you invoking the collectivist rights paradigm of the French ?

or the Individual rights paradigm of the British ?

Canada is not a unified state, there is no  "us" in Canada

the left wing collectivists side with the French & Indians

while the right wing individualists side with America

[Radiorum]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

which founding ?

the founding of Canada by the House of Bourbon at Quebec in 1603 ?

or the founding of British North America by the House of Hanover in 1763 ?

are you invoking the collectivist rights paradigm of the French ?

or the Individual rights paradigm of the British ?

Canada is not a unified state, there is no  "us" in Canada

the left wing collectivists side with the French & Indians

while the right wing individualists side with America

Yeah, Quebec is really their own country, aren't they?

I'm speaking about the United Empire Loyalists who decided what kind of country we were to be.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

Yeah, Quebec is really their own country, aren't they?

I'm speaking about the United Empire Loyalists who decided what kind of country we were to be.

The United Empire Loyalists were Americans

they didn't come from England, they came from Pennsylvania

and they were fearsome Scots Irish Protestant zealots

the Orange Order of Upper Canada

whom would not recognize this leftist lunatic shithole that Canada has become

the United Empire Loyalists would hang Justin Trudeau and all his Cabinet from the yardarm as traitors

[Radiorum]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

they came from Pennsylvania

Actually, a lot more of them were from upstate (then the province of) New York, especially the Mohawk Valley

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

they were fearsome Scots Irish Protestant zealots

No, most of the Scots-Irish stayed in the US. Most of the Scottish that came were Catholic. They settled Glengarry County in Ontario.

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

whom would not recognize this leftist lunatic shithole that Canada has become

the United Empire Loyalists would hang Justin Trudeau and all his Cabinet from the yardarm as traitors

You been drinking?

 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

Actually, a lot more of them were from upstate (then the province of) New York, especially the Mohawk Valley

No, most of the Scots-Irish stayed in the US. Most of the Scottish that came were Catholic. They settled Glengarry County in Ontario.

You been drinking?

 

an United Empire Loyalist is by definition an Orangeman

William Prince of Orange

Glorious Revolution of 1688

The Scots Irish are the Ulster Scots

Roman Catholic Scots are Jacobites, the sworn enemies of the United Empire Loyalists

United Empire Loyalists swear fealty to the British Crown ; House of Hanover

Roman Catholic Scots swear fealty to Bonnie Prince Cherrie; House of Stewart

this is the Scots Highland Roman Catholic lament, commemorating their defeat at Culloden in 1745

 

[Radiorum]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Roman Catholic Scots are Jacobites, the sworn enemies of the United Empire Loyalists

No, not according to the book I read The People of Glengarry