Cheers Everyone! Let's all Hope for Renewed Peace and Prosperity

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Yes i know. You explained she out and out called them Nazis and his rallies Nazi rallies, failed to provide any evidence of her saying that and then lamely tried to pivot into "well she implied it." the fact you couldn't provide evidence for your initial and oft-repeated claim and then tried ot backtrack and retcon your argument is obvious to all.

Again: you said she said it. Multiple times!

It worked for Trump. 

Anyway, there's plenty of factors to explain the defeat, the biggest one being that Dem voters stayed home (which I highly doubt they did because they were upset with Trump voters being called garbage), pretending your preferred theory is the right one is just another example of you trying to bend reality to fit your own preconceptions.

Oh look, continuing the lie in a desperate hope that if you repeated often enough it'll become true.

She said trump was like Hitler. I played you that video and if she's saying trump at the rallies is Hitler than she's saying that the attendees are Nazis.

I get that you feel the need to lie about it rather than address the facts here

The voter turnout was good, about the same as usual (except 2020 when miraculously it was unusually high (ballot harvest much?) ) 

Dems didn't stay home.

People just got sick of lies from people like you. They're sick of the woke, they're sick of the bullshit, they're sick about lies that trump is Hitler, they're sick of being called garbage and Nazis and deplorables, and they're sick of giggling harris.

The exit polls are fairly telling. People didn't give a shit about all of this crap and lies the democrats were selling, they cared about the economy and they thought that trump would be the best person to manage that. The lies about how birth control would be banned didn't sell, the lies about this being the last election ever didn't sell, none of your bullshit sold

[eyeball]

22 hours ago, Black Dog said:

I rolled my eyes so hard reading this they fell out of my head and rolled across the room like marbles. What a bunch of horseshit.

This is a part of the clear pattern of Trump people telling us he won't do the things he says he will do while also believing he will do the things he says he will do. 

The hope he'll keep his promises certainly shines through.

I'm reminded of the enthusiasm usually on display for populist phrases like "we're going to crack down and get tough on" fill-in-blank-here.

I guess the most obvious clue of what's ahead should be apparent in how quickly Trump releases the Democrats Jan 6 hostages. Notwithstanding how forgiving Trump's supporters are it's also clear they're very impatient. If he fu cks the dog on this it'll plant the first seeds of doubt that will bloom into a field of weeds in no time at all.

It'll be the same when Poilievre is elected - the high often ridiculous expectations of so many conservative voters will leave them little room or time in which to manoeuvre.

 

[Black Dog]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Oh look, continuing the lie in a desperate hope that if you repeated often enough it'll become true.

She said trump was like Hitler. I played you that video and if she's saying trump at the rallies is Hitler than she's saying that the attendees are Nazis.

The only person lying here is you, the person who claimed multiple times that Harris said (not merely implied) that Trump supporters are Nazis. As an added bonus, she didn't even talk about the rallies in the video you posted so that's just another fiction you're layering on here. You're just a sad, compulsive liar.

Edited November 7, 2024 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

The only person lying here is you, the person who claimed multiple times that Harris said (not merely implied) that Trump supporters are Nazis. As an added bonus, she didn't even talk about the rallies in the video you posted so that's just another fiction you're layering on here. You're just a sad, compulsive liar.

Sorry kiddo, I know you like to accuse others of what you yourself do it doesn't change the facts.

And the election results show it. You can lie to your heart's content but intelligent people see through your shit and the dems. Trump is not Hitler, trump is not a fascist, trump is not a communist russian agent, trump is not a dictator etc etc his supporters are not Nazis, they're not garbage, they're not deplorables, etc etc

They didn't appreciate you saying they were and they said that message pretty clearly

[Black Dog]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry kiddo, I know you like to accuse others of what you yourself do it doesn't change the facts.

Yes the facts are you claimed multiple times that Harris said (not merely implied) that Trump supporters are Nazis and she didn't. You lied.

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And the election results show it. You can lie to your heart's content but intelligent people see through your shit and the dems. Trump is not Hitler, trump is not a fascist, trump is not a communist russian agent, trump is not a dictator etc etc his supporters are not Nazis, they're not garbage, they're not deplorables, etc etc

They didn't appreciate you saying they were and they said that message pretty clearly

 

Them not appreciating being called garbage does not in any way invalidate the premise that they are, in fact, garbage.

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

Yes the facts are you claimed multiple times that Harris said (not merely implied) that Trump supporters are Nazis and she didn't. You lied.

You keep changing your story there. And I've been extremely clear.

You're like this every time you don't want to deal with the facts. You try and pull some sort of weird matlock logic out and keep changing what you think I said to promote your lies. 

I even simplified it for you to make it easier and you're still lying about it, 

End of the day people didn't care for it and delivered a massive knockout punch in the form of one of the bigger victories in American history. Certainly the single most greatest comeback story in living political memory

Your lies and your games and the giggling literally made trump look exceptionally desirable to vote for. That's how sick of your shit the Americans are

It'll be the same in Canada next year.

[Black Dog]

29 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You keep changing your story there. And I've been extremely clear.

You're like this every time you don't want to deal with the facts. You try and pull some sort of weird matlock logic out and keep changing what you think I said to promote your lies. 

I even simplified it for you to make it easier and you're still lying about it, 

Again, the only person who's changed their story is you who went from saying "Harris said Trump voters were Nazis" multiple times to "she implied it when talking about Trump".

Maybe you're simply too stupid to follow, but it's quite straightforward: you made a claim that was a lie and tried to retcon in when you were caught out. Just admit it and move on.

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End of the day people didn't care for it and delivered a massive knockout punch in the form of one of the bigger victories in American history.

Lol this horseshit again,  you can't even take a win without lying about it, what a loser.

Edited November 7, 2024 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Again, the only person who's changed their story is you who went from saying "Harris said Trump voters were Nazis" multiple times to "she implied it when talking about Trump".

Maybe you're simply too stupid to follow, but it's quite straightforward: you made a claim that was a lie and tried to retcon in when you were caught out. Just admit it and move on.

Lol this horseshit again,  you can't even take a win without lying about it, what a loser.

I made a claim that's 100% true, provided the proof and now your buthurt and this happens all the time with you. Whenever you hear a truth you don't like you just pretend and argue that it's not true even when you're force-fed facts.

 

[Black Dog]

59 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I made a claim that's 100% true, provided the proof and now your buthurt and this happens all the time with you.

LOl your "proof" was two links that didn't quote harris and a video of Harris where she doesn't mention Trup's supporters or rallies. so no, none of the evidence showed she called trump's supporters Nazis.

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Whenever you hear a truth you don't like you just pretend and argue that it's not true even when you're force-fed facts.

I honestly can't tell if you're just keeping this charade up because you simply can't stand to admit being wrong or if you're genuinely delusional enough to think that you're right, either way, it's funny as hell.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

LOl your "proof" was two links that didn't quote harris and a video of Harris where she doesn't mention Trup's supporters or rallies. so no, none of the evidence showed she called trump's supporters Nazis.

 

They did actually talk about harris in the first two ones. And That she had made those statements. And if Trump is Hitler than his supporters are Nazis. So simple

Sorry kid you can't lie your way out of it. And America would seem to agree

[Black Dog]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They did actually talk about harris in the first two ones. And That she had made those statements.

Nope.

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And if Trump is Hitler than his supporters are Nazis. So simple

This is true but Harris never said it.

[Michael Hardner]

18 hours ago, eyeball said:

 

It'll be the same when Poilievre is elected - the high often ridiculous expectations of so many conservative voters will leave them little room or time in which to manoeuvre.

 

They are very forgiving people 💕

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Nope.

 

Awww   Still in denial kiddo, how sad

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And if Trump is Hitler than his supporters are Nazis.

This is true but Harris never said it.

But she did say that trump was Hitler. As you admit. So she is agreeing that the supporters are Nazis. As you admit. 

So she did say it and you just been yanking your own little chain the whole way along     Yeash you do that a lot. Pages and pages and in the end you wind up admitting i was right all along. 

The election really messed you up didn't it? Is if you left he's here that seem to have suffered some permanent emotional damage.  Hope you feel better

 

[Black Dog]

Just now, CdnFox said:

But she did say that trump was Hitler. As you admit. So she is agreeing that the supporters are Nazis. As you admit. 

She said Trump admired Hitler and he's a fascist. She never said anything about his supporters which, again, was your claim. Why are you still lying when I have you in 4K?

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So she did say it and you just been yanking your own little chain the whole way along

She didn't and we know she didn't becaus eyou have no evidence she did.

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Yeash you do that a lot. Pages and pages and in the end you wind up admitting i was right all along.

LOL no.

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he election really messed you up didn't it? Is if you left he's here that seem to have suffered some permanent emotional damage.  Hope you feel better

Not really, but that would still beat being born with a perfectly smooth brain like you.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

She said Trump admired Hitler and he's a fascist. She never said anything about his supporters which, again, was your claim. Why are you still lying when I have you in 4K?

She didn't and we know she didn't becaus eyou have no evidence she did.

LOL no.

Not really, but that would still beat being born with a perfectly smooth brain like you.

So now you're going back on whatever you had said before.  

Okay kiddo. I think I've had too much fun playing with the mentally disabled already  I'm starting to feel guilty  

I'm sure you think if you keep lying but somehow magically this will become true. We both know it isn't and that you're completely and utterly full of shit and you pretty much admitted it just moments ago.

So you go ahead and keep insisting that your lies are true and I'll just sit here and pat you on the head and say sure kid  

 

[Black Dog]

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So now you're going back on whatever you had said before.  

You really do have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever do you, it's quite remarkable.

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Okay kiddo. I think I've had too much fun playing with the mentally disabled already  I'm starting to feel guilty  

I'm sure you think if you keep lying but somehow magically this will become true. We both know it isn't and that you're completely and utterly full of shit and you pretty much admitted it just moments ago.

 

You lied about Harris calling Trump supporters Nazis and now you're lying about me admitting she did. Is there anything you won't lie about?

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So you go ahead and keep insisting that your lies are true and I'll just sit here and pat you on the head and say sure kid  

 

Of course you will. Because you don't have an actual argument and can't prove she said what you said she said. Because you're a liar and a loser.

[impartialobserver]

in stark contrast to the last election.. it has been remarkably mellow afterwards. Proof that life goes on. Even my most liberal coworkers and facebook friends have been fairly quiet. Its called being an adult. You win some, you lose some. Also, it shows how out of touch with reality some on here are. 

Edited November 8, 2024 by impartialobserver

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

You really do have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever do you, it's quite remarkable.

You lied about Harris calling Trump supporters Nazis and now you're lying about me admitting she did. Is there anything you won't lie about?

Of course you will. Because you don't have an actual argument and can't prove she said what you said she said. Because you're a liar and a loser.

Sure kid  

[Black Dog]

20 hours ago, eyeball said:

The hope he'll keep his promises certainly shines through.

I'm reminded of the enthusiasm usually on display for populist phrases like "we're going to crack down and get tough on" fill-in-blank-here.

I guess the most obvious clue of what's ahead should be apparent in how quickly Trump releases the Democrats Jan 6 hostages. Notwithstanding how forgiving Trump's supporters are it's also clear they're very impatient. If he fu cks the dog on this it'll plant the first seeds of doubt that will bloom into a field of weeds in no time at all.

It'll be the same when Poilievre is elected - the high often ridiculous expectations of so many conservative voters will leave them little room or time in which to manoeuvre.

The thing everyone seems to have forgotten is that Trump basically gave up on being President about halfway through his first term and just spent the rest golfing and on "Executive Time" a.k.a watching TV. I highly doubt the shell of a man we saw in the shambolic campaign is capable of doing much more than that for the bulk of this term (assuming he doesn't croak in office).

[WestCanMan]

On 11/7/2024 at 12:17 AM, CdnFox said:

well according to the dems

he ACTUALLY SAID he'd see blood in the streets!!!

He ACTUALLY SAID he was going to be a dictator and destroy the constitution and there would be no more elections. 

He ACTUALLY SAID he would use the military to arrest judges and journalists. 

He ACTUALLY SAID he would ban puppies, kill kittens and cancel christmas!! (ok i made that one up but it sounds like something they'd say he said  )

Very little of what the left things he actually said was things he actually said. 

I'm glad that Trump got elected but I'm not looking fwd to the next 4 years of paranoid delusions in the headlines of CBC, CTV, CNN et al. 

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm glad that Trump got elected but I'm not looking fwd to the next 4 years of paranoid delusions in the headlines of CBC, CTV, CNN et al. 

Oh I'm sure it will be brutal.

I really really would have hoped that the left would learn their lesson and realize that that kind of nonsense just hurts them. I know that we have both been telling them for over a year that all the nonsense, all the fake lawsuits, all the twisting of words and claiming he said stuff that he never said only makes people go to him more and the election proved that

But I don't think they're getting that message just yet. The left has a bad habit where if one of their ideas completely fails they get it into their head that somehow it would start to work if they just tried to do it more and harder.

And pretty soon they're going to realize who the next FrontRunner is going to be and they're going to put JD Vance in their crosshairs and we'll get to here the same crap about him

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Oh I'm sure it will be brutal.

I really really would have hoped that the left would learn their lesson and realize that that kind of nonsense just hurts them.

I don't know if it really does though. The DNC belched out the weakest candidate possible and they didn't lose by all that much, all things considered.

Kamala's negatives: 

1. refused to do anything but read from the teleprompter for 75 days, then had disastrous appearances on CNN, 60 Minutes, the View, and a few podcasts
2. her running mate drove drunk at 96 mph, lied about military service, and surrendered his state to rioters
3. she was a pro-riot, defund police, anti-fracking candidate who tried to pretend that she had completely changed between the ages of 55 and 59, but never really explained why to anyone
4. she had a terrible record in the WH, opening up the border to a catastrophic level, and the Biden/Harris administration inflicted massive inflation on the country
5. she really never gave a good interview. She's just famous for dodging questions and cackling.

Just contrast that to Josh Shapiro, if he would have run in her place:

1. He has no need to hide, he answers questions like a pro
2. He couldn't find a worse running mate than Timmy Tampon
3. He doesn't have a record of pandering to rioters or denigrating police
4. He doesn't have a record of abject failure that he has to make excuses for

Kamala ran with 1,000% support from the MSM, but when she got in front of the camera she was basically Medusa - she turned everyone to stone with her answers. She somehow made enemies of both ACooper and Bill Whittaker while they were trying to be as friendly as possible.

If Shapiro also ran with 1,000% support from the MSM, and was just a bit above average on TV, he definitely would have won imo, regardless of how many lies the MSM, and how much they slandered Republicans. All he had to do was get 4% more support in a few key states. 

Was Kamala bad enough to lose 4% in those swing states? Good God, I hope so. She was a total id10t. If Obama did those media appearances for her on 60 Minutes and CNN's Town Hall with AC, he would have had viewers eating out of the palm of his hand. 

[CdnFox]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

I don't know if it really does though. The DNC belched out the weakest candidate possible and they didn't lose by all that much, all things considered.

I think by most measures it was a pretty epic loss. And remember that the candidate before her was also failing horribly even though the media was giving him all the breaks and we had false figures about job employment and crime and other things as well. And I'm talking about before the debate when most of America still believe that he was capable of serving another term

I mean, you're quite correct. Their candidate was a crap candidate.

And I agree there are others you probably would have won but I wonder if their entire campaign would have been based on the continuation of slandering trump as being their only real policy point. If they did win I would suspect it would be because they would have offered something more than just that. Basically the democrats going back to January believe they could win entirely on slagging trump.

I would further point out that when trump was convicted his donations actually went up. That suggests that the fake lawsuits didn't really hurt his reputation they actually helped it a little. 

I have no doubt that a different candidate who put together a real campaign and focused far less on trump and far more on what they could do for the country would have had a real chance at winning. But that's kind of my point, creating a fake narrative and fake quotes that trump never said as well as conjuring fake charges fake Russians and fake everything else is not going to win you an election. You need to bring real policy, real confidence, real people to the table and not rely so heavily on the media and cardi B.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I think by most measures it was a pretty epic loss. And remember that the candidate before her was also failing horribly even though the media was giving him all the breaks and we had false figures about job employment and crime and other things as well.

Trump only won:

• Wisc by 0.8%
• Mich by 1.4%
• Penn by 2.1%
• Georgia by 2.2%

 

That's 60 electoral college votes right there, all decided by 2.2% or less. 

Biden was doing OK until he went live on national TV and turned into a pumpkin, for all to see. 

I think that Kamala was easily a minus-5% candidate. She had a horrible record and she was horrible when talking to friendly interviewers. I can't think of a single good moment for her on TV, aside from the 3-on-1 debate vs Trump. 

I don't honestly think that the MSM's slander campaign was the difference-maker. I'd love to believe that voters were smart enough to see past it, and reject them on that basis, but I personally think that Kamala's general uselessness was a far larger factor.  

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump only won:

• Wisc by 0.8%
• Mich by 1.4%
• Penn by 2.1%
• Georgia by 2.2%

 

That's 60 electoral college votes right there, all decided by 2.2% or less. 

Biden was doing OK until he went live on national TV and turned into a pumpkin, for all to see. 

I think that Kamala was easily a minus-5% candidate. She had a horrible record and she was horrible when talking to friendly interviewers. I can't think of a single good moment for her on TV, aside from the 3-on-1 debate vs Trump. 

I don't honestly think that the MSM's slander campaign was the difference-maker. I'd love to believe that voters were smart enough to see past it, and reject them on that basis, but I personally think that Kamala's general uselessness was a far larger factor.  

But he won them all. He also won a lot of other seats that he wasn't expected to win such as Ohio. Kamala also lost ground in every single county in the entire country. Think about that, literally every county every single part of the country moved substantially closer to the republicans than they were in 2020

 

He massively increased his black And Latino voters. He outperformed with women who the dems thought they had locked up. He's the first republican president in about 20 years that won the popular vote and the college as well.

It was actually a pretty spectacular victory. The margins might seem tight in a couple of states but they actually represent a significant change and victory that is from one end of the country to the other. And on top of it took the senate. So is victory now gives him A clear mandate, he's got the house and he's got the senate and he's got the supreme court

Newsies are already coming up with cutesy terms like the red realignment or the red tide or the red wave. I absolutely get that at first glance it may not seem like it was some sort of overwhelming victory but it genuinely was an overwhelming victory. It may not have been super deep but it was countrywide