Harretz has finally caught on: If It Looks Like Ethnic Cleansing, It Probably Is

[robosmith]

If It Looks Like Ethnic Cleansing, It Probably Is

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For three and a half weeks, Israeli forces have been besieging the northern Gaza Strip. Israel has almost completely blocked the entry of humanitarian aid, thereby starving the hundreds of thousands of people who live there. Information emerging from the besieged area is only partial, because ever since the war began, Israel has barred journalists from entering Gaza.

But even based on the little that has been revealed to the public, two things can be said about the siege. First, the scale of the civilian casualties from the army's daily bombings of towns and refugee camps in northern Gaza – children, women, elderly people and men who are innocent of any crime – is enormous.

Moreover, medical and other aid facilities have largely collapsed, and other institutions are also collapsing. Consequently, hundreds of thousands of people are now at risk of starvation or are already suffering terrible hunger.

 

 

 

 

Israel says it told the residents that they needed to leave northern Gaza, and even now, they can still move southward on routes the army has designated for this purpose. Thus the residents, many of whom have already been uprooted two or three times or even more from the places to which they have fled the terrors of war, are now being asked to move again. Yet Israel has refrained from giving the displaced any guarantee that they will be able to return once the war ends.

 

It's been obvious for some time that Netanyahu's extreme right wing government wants ALL of GAZA for the Jews.

[Legato]

Funny that, starving yet lots of cash for rockets and such.

[robosmith]

39 minutes ago, Legato said:

Funny that, starving yet lots of cash for rockets and such.

No one ever said HAMAS was taking care of their fellow Gazans, but that doesn't justify ETHNIC CLEANSING LIKE YOU'RE IMPLYING. 🤮

Edited October 31, 2024 by robosmith

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No one ever said HAMA was taking care of their fellow Gazans, but that doesn't justify ETHNIC CLEANSING LIKE YOU'RE IMPLYING. 🤮

Then why don't they?

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, Legato said:

Then why don't they?

Because they are busy fighting their IMPRISONMENT and APARTHEID.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Because they are busy fighting their IMPRISONMENT and APARTHEID.

So they chose to stock up on rockets but decided not to bother with stocking up on food.

Doesn't look like ethnic cleansing to me.Looks to me like hamas's happy to let their people starve.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

So they chose to stock up on rockets but decided not to bother with stocking up on food.

Doesn't look like ethnic cleansing to me.Looks to me like hamas's happy to let their people starve.

Starving is NOT what has killed 42,000+ palestinians, though it certainly hasn't helped the ones who escaped the indiscriminate BOMBING to survive.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Starving is NOT what has killed 42,000+ palestinians, though it certainly hasn't helped the ones who escaped the indiscriminate BOMBING to survive.

What killed 42000 palestinians is mostly trying to attack the israeli army - most of those dead are soldiers - and the rest got killed by the soldiers deciding to hide behind them when the israelis fought back. 

So if anyone's 'ethnic clensing' its hamas, killing it's own people to further it's political ambition 

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What killed 42000 palestinians is mostly trying to attack the israeli army - most of those dead are soldiers - and the rest got killed by the soldiers deciding to hide behind them when the israelis fought back. 

So if anyone's 'ethnic clensing' its hamas, killing it's own people to further it's political ambition 

Gee...It's almost like electing Hamas was a bad idea.

[ironstone]

With the exception of Israel, there is a 'cleansing' of sorts in that part of the world. Jews and Christians are not exactly welcome in certain muslim countries in the Middle East.

Hamas is entirely to blame for their casualties.

[Hodad]

45 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Gee...It's almost like electing Hamas was a bad idea.

That was almost 20 years ago. About half of the Gazan population wasn't even alive at that time. About 3/4 of the population weren't old enough to have voted. 

What kind of sicko justifies killing children because of a vote their parents or grandparents cast? 

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

That was almost 20 years ago. About half of the Gazan population wasn't even alive at that time. About 3/4 of the population weren't old enough to have voted. 

What kind of sicko justifies killing children because of a vote their parents or grandparents cast? 

What kind of sicko puts military arms and personnel in civilian areas?

Young Gazans who didn't vote for Hamas probably...eh?

[Hodad]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

What kind of sicko puts military arms and personnel in civilian areas?

Young Gazans who didn't vote for Hamas probably...eh?

Yep, Hamas is bad. There isn't any debate about that. 

But it's a weak-ass deflection from your position that people who overwhelmingly did NOT vote for Hamas can be justly killed because a small minority of living Gazans voted for Hamas almost 20 years ago. 

Instead of admitting that your position is morally untenable, you simply try to deflect. Gross.

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Yep, Hamas is bad. There isn't any debate about that. 

But it's a weak-ass deflection from your position that people who overwhelmingly did NOT vote for Hamas can be justly killed because a small minority of living Gazans voted for Hamas almost 20 years ago. 

Instead of admitting that your position is morally untenable, you simply try to deflect. Gross.

If it's such a small minority, why do they allow their urban areas to be turned into military installations?

Look...the Gaza situation has been doomed ever since Hamas was elected. 

IMO...the Zionists and the Palestinians should be surrounded, nothing goes in and nothing come out. Let them fight it out till there's a clear winner. They both obviously hate the other and this will not be resolved until all the bad blood is spilled all over that mostly useless chunk of sand.

Edited October 31, 2024 by Nationalist

[Fluffypants]

28 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Yep, Hamas is bad. There isn't any debate about that. 

But it's a weak-ass deflection from your position that people who overwhelmingly did NOT vote for Hamas can be justly killed because a small minority of living Gazans voted for Hamas almost 20 years ago. 

Instead of admitting that your position is morally untenable, you simply try to deflect. Gross.

59% of the population supports Hamas and 70% agreed with their role in the war.

Even if there was a vote Hamas would win hands down. They don't feel oppressed by Hamas they like them therefore they aren't innocent in all this.

[Hodad]

20 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

If it's such a small minority, why do they allow their urban areas to be turned into military installations?

Look...the Gaza situation has been doomed ever since Hamas was elected. 

IMO...the Zionists and the Palestinians should be surrounded, nothing goes in and nothing come out. Let them fight it out till there's a clear winner. They both obviously hate the other and this will not be resolved until all the bad blood is spilled all over that mostly useless chunk of sand.

No surprise. What you're suggesting is simply genocide. 

[Hodad]

10 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

59% of the population supports Hamas and 70% agreed with their role in the war.

Even if there was a vote Hamas would win hands down. They don't feel oppressed by Hamas they like them therefore they aren't innocent in all this.

And that support will likely grow as Bebe continues to validate every fear and suspicion Gazans might harbor toward their VASTLY more powerful oppressors. Life in Gaza wasn't good before the war. Now when most Gazans have lost family members to the indiscriminate Israeli assault of course Gazans will cling to any organized resistance.

There are many and complex reasons why Hamas still has significant support, but Netenyahu's callous campaign in Gaza will simply make future peace that much harder. 

Edited October 31, 2024 by Hodad

[Nationalist]

41 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No surprise. What you're suggesting is simply genocide. 

No it's not. Isreal could carpet bomb and level all of Gaza, but the Palestinian genome would still exist.

I said at the very beginning of this...

For the sake of peace in the region, Israel should have leveled Gaza in one, merciless air campaign on the 8th. This would be over and I do not believe the other Arab nations would have risked getting involved.

No more war...and no more Hamas.

Edited October 31, 2024 by Nationalist

[Hodad]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No it's not. Isreal could carpet bomb and level all of Gaza, but the Palestinian genome would still exist.

I said at the very beginning of this...

For the sake of peace in the region, Israel should have leveled Gaza in one, merciless air campaign on the 8th. This would be over and I do not believe the other Arab nations would have risked getting involved.

No more war...and no more Hamas.

And no more global support for Israel. THEN the Arab nations would get involved.

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

And no more global support for Israel. THEN the Arab nations would get involved.

Lol...neither would happen. But I would be all for the USA extricating themselves from military support...till it's over.

[Hodad]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...neither would happen. But I would be all for the USA extricating themselves from military support...till it's over.

Absolutely it would. If Israel simply killed all the Gazans they would become an overnight pariah nation. 

[Fluffypants]

16 minutes ago, Hodad said:

And no more global support for Israel. THEN the Arab nations would get involved.

Did they ever have global support? They are the only country under constant attack and get crapped on for retaliating.

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Absolutely it would. If Israel simply killed all the Gazans they would become an overnight pariah nation. 

Yes they would have...for a while.

But the fighting would be over.

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

Did they ever have global support? They are the only country under constant attack and get crapped on for retaliating.

Well...in all honesty...Israel will never completely escape the way they took Palestine. There may always be those who despise Israel.

[User]

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's been obvious for some time that Netanyahu's extreme right wing government wants ALL of GAZA for the Jews.

You people are disgusting. 

Lets review... Israel wants nothing to do with Gaza. They left almost 20 years ago and handed it over to the people there. Israel was perfectly content with letting the Palestinian people there run that place into the ground all they wanted to and were mostly content with hiding behind a missile shield while the thugs there launched rockets at them. 

It was not until Hamas launched one of the worst terrorist attacks in history, killing over 1,000 people, raping, torturing, and taking hostages, that Israel said enough was enough and invaded. 

NO ONE wants anything to do with Gaza. Israel can't give the place away to anyone to run it because no one wants to deal with the generational hate and terrorism that has been instilled into the population.