Why are Transgenders such a serious political issue in this election?

[A Freeman]

There is no such thing as a "transgender" (or dozens of different genders) except in the sick, twisted minds of those foolish enough to believe in such nonsense.

 

Humans, like all other animals on this planet, have two genders, and ONLY two genders: MALE and FEMALE.

 

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His [Own] image, in the Image of God created He him; MALE and FEMALE created He them.

 

Our Creator didn't place us inside a human body of the wrong gender, so that some shrink could come along and advise us it's okay to have a witch doctor mutilate that body in a VAIN attempt to UNNATURALLY try to change it into something that resembles the opposite gender. Those spiritual-Beings (Souls) in male bodies should accept and be learning their NATURAL role just as those spiritual-Beings (Souls) inside of female bodies should accept and be learning their NATURAL roles. We aren't even supposed to dress the human body in clothing of the opposite gender, much less be undergoing the abomination referred to as "gender reassignment surgery".

 

Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall NOT wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the "I AM" thy God.

 

Why is this, like homosexuality, considered an ABOMINATION? Because it is UNNATURAL, and destructive, both spiritually and physically.

 

We were each given the exact body we deserve and need, to learn to overcome its SELFISH desires through self-discipline and obedience to God.

 

Being a queer, sodomite, transgender, etc. is a CAPITAL CRIME under The Perfect Law of Liberty that our Creator gave us (Lev. 18:22; Lev. 20:13), for GOOD reason. Once a society takes the lid off of Pandora's box and not only tolerates but promotes the queer agenda, EVERYONE suffers, and the society eventually destroys itself from within from the obvious moral rot. You cannot attack the basic building block of any civilized society -- the NATURAL family unit -- and expect that society to survive, much less to prosper.

 

The reason the queer agenda is being pushed on Western (Israelite) societies is to do exactly that: destroy them from within. First, get the shrinks - who don't know what they're doing anyway - to revise their diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders so that homosexuality is no longer considered a mental disorder (1973).

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hide-and-seek/201509/when-homosexuality-stopped-being-a-mental-disorder

 

Then, gradually introduce the subject through television, film and the news media, to program the public to be more accepting of it, while allowing their ilk to parade through the streets indecently exposed and unobstructed. Let the pedophiles (e.g. "NAMBLA") march with them, and bring the children along to make sure they're indoctrinated too. Keep the pressure on for decades, until finally there is a token queer in virtually every film and television show, and every university level student has had it hammered in by their lunatic professors that it's not only allegedly okay to be a queer, but people should allegedly be able to do whatever filthy and immoral thing that comes into their minds, regardless of how it negatively affects others or themselves.

 

Anyone who doesn't understand that this was a deliberate, concerted effort is either totally asleep spiritually or actually enjoys being this evil or living in such an evil society, where children are molested, women are raped, and people go to seek the most twisted sexual gratification they can imagine INSTEAD of learning what love really is. Further, anyone who isn't outraged by this abominable, immoral assault on society, and in particular on our children, is guilty of conspiring to commit these capital crimes, whether intentionally or out of ignorance.

 

There will be "woke" (asleep actually) people here who ignorantly see this as some political issue when, in fact, it is simple common-sense. And of course they will want to argue why their satanic worldview is supposedly right, and why our Creator is somehow wrong, because they have been completely indoctrinated into seeing everything upside down and backwards.

 

2 Esdras 5:6-10

5:6 And even he shall rule, [Christ] whom they look not for that dwell upon the Earth, and the fowls shall take their flight away together:
5:7 And the Sodomitish sea shall cast out fish (AIDS), and make a noise in the night, which many have not known: but they shall all hear the voice thereof.
5:8 There shall be a confusion also in many places, and the fire shall often be sent out again, and the wild beasts shall change their places, and child-bearing women shall bring forth monsters (metaphorically):
5:9 And salt waters shall be found in the sweet, and all friends shall destroy one another; then shall common-sense hide itself, and understanding withdraw itself into his secret chamber,
5:10 And shall be sought of many, and yet not be found: then shall unrighteousness and incontinency be multiplied upon Earth.

 

 

For those who may offended by someone pointing out the TRUTH about these obvious crimes, or by Scripture being quoted (which prophesied all of this nonsense would happen because, as Edmund Burke said: "all that's required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing"), please learn to destroy your own egos before it (the ego) destroys you.

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, A Freeman said:

There is no such thing as a "transgender" (or dozens of different genders) except in the sick, twisted minds of those foolish enough to believe in such nonsense.

A large number of people reject the idea of using the Bible as a basis for public policy.

The West was established and thrived in separation of church and state.

People who don't accept that centuries-old cornerstone are increasingly seen as unhinged IMO.

[A Freeman]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

A large number of people reject the idea of using the Bible as a basis for public policy.

Hence the reason we're in the mess we find ourselves in today (e.g. rampant political corruption, oppression and injustice; drowning in debt; poverty and crime; the queer agenda, etc.). The evil majority is usually, if not always WRONG.

 

Exodus 23:1-2

23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.
23:2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to [do] evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to agree falsely with the majority and thereby pervert [judgment]:

 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

The West was established and thrived in separation of church and state.

Nonsense. There are five characters which should make it crystal clear that there is no separation between church and state and never has been. In Canada those characters are "T3010", while in the U.S. they are "501(c)(3)".

 

ALL governments and their agencies are corporate fictions, just as ALL organized religions are corporate fictions. They are in business to sell their product to those gullible enough to pay for it. And neither have anything to do with God nor with Scripture, other than to use and abuse them for profit and power.

 

The reason that the West has thrived is because of the unconditional promise made to Abraham through Isaac and Jacob/Israel, and even with all of the unlawfully made-up rules, legislation, "codes", etc., the West was marginally keeping The Law that God gave us. Now that we've descended into this obvious moral rot, we are finding ourselves further and further in debt, suffering from the poverty, crime and injustice that we've created, and watching the East rise in both financial and military power, as they will be used yet again to humble the arrogant West (the Israelite nations) in the final phase of WW3.

 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

People who don't accept that centuries-old cornerstone are increasingly seen as unhinged IMO.

Given the fact that this is a lunatic asylum, where the most insane inmates are running the asylum, that's not surprising.

 

[Michael Hardner]

14 minutes ago, A Freeman said:

Hence the reason we're in the mess we find ourselves in today  

I'm sure the Jihadists would agree with you.  Lucky for us, most don't.

 

Ok, I hear you.  I don't agree 👍 

[A Freeman]

47 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm sure the Jihadists would agree with you.  Lucky for us, most don't.

 

Ok, I hear you.  I don't agree 👍 

Who said anything about Jihadists? Shariah "law" isn't God's Law, the latter of which is found only in the first five books of the Bible, which the Koran/Quran was sent to CONFIRM (not to contradict).

 

You're trying to associate yet another evil, corporate fictional organized religion ("Islam"), and their made-up writings and rules (the hadith) with God, when they, like all organized religion, teach the exact opposite of what it actually says in Scripture.

 

One would think where the head of state, head of the church and the head of the B.A.R. association are all the same individual that nobody would continue to fall for the "separation between church and state" propaganda when they are very obviously two heads of the same beast system.

 

The politicians that champion "transgender" rights, etc. should be fired immediately by the people, and physically removed from office peacefully, if possible.  That would send the correct message to the rest of the politicians, that such degenerate policies will no longer be tolerated.

[Michael Hardner]

17 minutes ago, A Freeman said:

Who said anything about Jihadists?  

I did. You believe that society should be based on holy books that only a minority of people believe in..

Edited February 8 by Michael Hardner

[SpankyMcFarland]

One major question - when minors should be allowed to make their own decisions regarding gender-affirming care. It’s a tricky one. As with many other decisions, people are going to change their minds. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

One major question - when minors should be allowed to make their own decisions regarding gender-affirming care. It’s a tricky one. As with many other decisions, people are going to change their minds. 

Of course. And there are regrets. 

 

But these ideas, these are concepts: consent, second guessing one's decisions, parental approval. 

 

They apply to all medical/psychological questions.

Certain ones lately have become icons for a non-existent, fabricated, culture war that is set up to Grant power to certain elites.

 

[User]

16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Certain ones lately have become icons for a non-existent, fabricated, culture war that is set up to Grant power to certain elites.

So... who do you think started this culture war then? Is is the people pushing this trans the kids madness or is it the ones fighting back?

14 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Yup.

It's amazing what the MAGA hyenas believe, like children in every school in North America are being groomed by Trans people. If Trump said sticking a carrot up your butt is what real men do, we would see sales of carrots through the roof!

Not just trans people, the sick people on the left support this too.

No, not every school, but the ones where leftists can get their hands on and control of certainly do. 

 

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

but in this case conservatives seem to believe that exposing their children to such issues too soon, whatever that is in the smartphone era, may affect their ultimate sexual identity. I doubt that argument.

This deserves a slight correction. They're concerned it may affect their ultimate sexual identity negatively. In other words, even if there's sexual identity winds up being the same as it would have been regardless children can suffer serious damage from being exposed to these issues too early.

The research on this is pretty extensive, you'll have no trouble finding top of the line research papers showing that children exposed to sexuality at too early in age tend to suffer for it.

Let's be clear, the same people would also not want their children exposed to heterosexual sex acts or sexuality either.

It doesn't matter whether or not children's sexuality begins to develop at an early age. Exposing them to that early or making that part of their lived experience early does real damage. 

If it didn't i guess there'd be no problem letting adults have sex with kids.  This is for example what the man boy love people argue. 

But it does and there is a very GOOD reason why we limit children's exposure to sex or sexuality to 'age appropriate' levels and let them mature naturally. 

 

[NAME REMOVED]

6 hours ago, A Freeman said:

There is no such thing as a "transgender" (or dozens of different genders) except in the sick, twisted minds of those foolish enough to believe in such nonsense.

 

Humans, like all other animals on this planet, have two genders, and ONLY two genders: MALE and FEMALE.

 

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His [Own] image, in the Image of God created He him; MALE and FEMALE created He them.

 

Our Creator didn't place us inside a human body of the wrong gender, so that some shrink could come along and advise us it's okay to have a witch doctor mutilate that body in a VAIN attempt to UNNATURALLY try to change it into something that resembles the opposite gender. Those spiritual-Beings (Souls) in male bodies should accept and be learning their NATURAL role just as those spiritual-Beings (Souls) inside of female bodies should accept and be learning their NATURAL roles. We aren't even supposed to dress the human body in clothing of the opposite gender, much less be undergoing the abomination referred to as "gender reassignment surgery".

 

Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall NOT wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the "I AM" thy God.

 

Why is this, like homosexuality, considered an ABOMINATION? Because it is UNNATURAL, and destructive, both spiritually and physically.

 

We were each given the exact body we deserve and need, to learn to overcome its SELFISH desires through self-discipline and obedience to God.

 

Being a queer, sodomite, transgender, etc. is a CAPITAL CRIME under The Perfect Law of Liberty that our Creator gave us (Lev. 18:22; Lev. 20:13), for GOOD reason. Once a society takes the lid off of Pandora's box and not only tolerates but promotes the queer agenda, EVERYONE suffers, and the society eventually destroys itself from within from the obvious moral rot. You cannot attack the basic building block of any civilized society -- the NATURAL family unit -- and expect that society to survive, much less to prosper.

 

The reason the queer agenda is being pushed on Western (Israelite) societies is to do exactly that: destroy them from within. First, get the shrinks - who don't know what they're doing anyway - to revise their diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders so that homosexuality is no longer considered a mental disorder (1973).

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hide-and-seek/201509/when-homosexuality-stopped-being-a-mental-disorder

 

Then, gradually introduce the subject through television, film and the news media, to program the public to be more accepting of it, while allowing their ilk to parade through the streets indecently exposed and unobstructed. Let the pedophiles (e.g. "NAMBLA") march with them, and bring the children along to make sure they're indoctrinated too. Keep the pressure on for decades, until finally there is a token queer in virtually every film and television show, and every university level student has had it hammered in by their lunatic professors that it's not only allegedly okay to be a queer, but people should allegedly be able to do whatever filthy and immoral thing that comes into their minds, regardless of how it negatively affects others or themselves.

 

Anyone who doesn't understand that this was a deliberate, concerted effort is either totally asleep spiritually or actually enjoys being this evil or living in such an evil society, where children are molested, women are raped, and people go to seek the most twisted sexual gratification they can imagine INSTEAD of learning what love really is. Further, anyone who isn't outraged by this abominable, immoral assault on society, and in particular on our children, is guilty of conspiring to commit these capital crimes, whether intentionally or out of ignorance.

 

There will be "woke" (asleep actually) people here who ignorantly see this as some political issue when, in fact, it is simple common-sense. And of course they will want to argue why their satanic worldview is supposedly right, and why our Creator is somehow wrong, because they have been completely indoctrinated into seeing everything upside down and backwards.

 

2 Esdras 5:6-10

5:6 And even he shall rule, [Christ] whom they look not for that dwell upon the Earth, and the fowls shall take their flight away together:
5:7 And the Sodomitish sea shall cast out fish (AIDS), and make a noise in the night, which many have not known: but they shall all hear the voice thereof.
5:8 There shall be a confusion also in many places, and the fire shall often be sent out again, and the wild beasts shall change their places, and child-bearing women shall bring forth monsters (metaphorically):
5:9 And salt waters shall be found in the sweet, and all friends shall destroy one another; then shall common-sense hide itself, and understanding withdraw itself into his secret chamber,
5:10 And shall be sought of many, and yet not be found: then shall unrighteousness and incontinency be multiplied upon Earth.

 

 

For those who may offended by someone pointing out the TRUTH about these obvious crimes, or by Scripture being quoted (which prophesied all of this nonsense would happen because, as Edmund Burke said: "all that's required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing"), please learn to destroy your own egos before it (the ego) destroys you.

Just what the forum needs.  Another religious nutcase, quoting scripture...

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, User said:

1. So... who do you think started this culture war then?

2.Is is the people pushing this trans the kids madness or is it the ones fighting back?

3. Not just trans people, the sick people on the left support this too.

4. No, not every school, but the ones where leftists can get their hands on and control of certainly do. 

 

1. Newt Gingrich.

2. What does pushing it mean? Expressing an opinion? Having ideas about what is right and wrong? Because that's what everyone does. 

3. By the left, I assume you mean Democrats? In some ways Democrats are to the right of the conservative party of Canada. 

But okay, you're talking about social issues, which is what left right fighting is about today. Let's face it. 

So if you think the people in the left are sick, then they're not mentally well. You should just deny them the vote. You should ban the Democrat party if you think that they're not rational. 

4. Again, just ban the Democrats.  If you think that they're sick, they are crazy... Why not just come out and say they shouldn't exist as a party? I don't get it.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Newt Gingrich.

This is not a serious answer. 

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. What does pushing it mean? Expressing an opinion? Having ideas about what is right and wrong? Because that's what everyone does. 

So... then what culture war is it you think that is fabricated here then, because it seems you are not responding to the actual subject now that this thread is about. 

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

3. By the left, I assume you mean Democrats? In some ways Democrats are to the right of the conservative party of Canada. 

We are not comparing parties. 

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So if you think the people in the left are sick, then they're not mentally well. You should just deny them the vote. You should ban the Democrat party if you think that they're not rational. 

4. Again, just ban the Democrats.  If you think that they're sick, they are crazy... Why not just come out and say they shouldn't exist as a party? I don't get it.

Just a big non-sequitur. Instead of dealing with the subject being discussed, you bring up an irrelevant and absurd topic about banning Democrats. 

 

[NAME REMOVED]

16 minutes ago, User said:

This is not a serious answer. 

So... then what culture war is it you think that is fabricated here then, because it seems you are not responding to the actual subject now that this thread is about. 

We are not comparing parties. 

Just a big non-sequitur. Instead of dealing with the subject being discussed, you bring up an irrelevant and absurd topic about banning Democrats. 

 

Did you have a negative experience with a Transgender? Did she leave you for a more masculine male? We are all friends here, so there is no judgement.

[User]

2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Did you have a negative experience with a Transgender? Did she leave you for a more masculine male? We are all friends here, so there is no judgement.

Just own your position and be brave enough to fight for it, why resort to these petty dishonest games?

[Michael Hardner]

52 minutes ago, User said:

1. This is not a serious answer. 

2. So... then what culture war is it you think that is fabricated here then, because it seems you are not responding to the actual subject now that this thread is about. 

3. We are not comparing parties. 

4. Just a big non-sequitur. Instead of dealing with the subject being discussed, you bring up an irrelevant and absurd topic about banning Democrats. 

 

1. Okay. 

2. I'm responding to what you said. 

3. Have a big problem with the terms right and left, especially as they're used in the context of this culture war we're in. In. So I just want to clarify. No offense. 

4. Well, do you really think they're sick? As you say? Those are your words. Or is that just rhetoric? Honest question.

I believe that people can honestly question gender issues that are coming up. I also believe that rhetoric and dishonest politicking on both sides is divisive, and distracts us from more serious problems.

 

Of course we can talk about anything, the amount of bandwidth this stuff takes is incredible.

[User]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Okay. 

2. I'm responding to what you said. 

3. Have a big problem with the terms right and left, especially as they're used in the context of this culture war we're in. In. So I just want to clarify. No offense. 

4. Well, do you really think they're sick? As you say? Those are your words. Or is that just rhetoric? Honest question.

You did not answer as to what you mean by culture war. Let me cut to the chase, you and others on here only seem to push this as some kind of culture war when it is those on the right opposed to the trans the kids madness fighting back. So... to the point, was it a culture war to you when the trans the kids madness was being pushed to begin with?

You can have problems with right and left... but you are conflating them with parties while I did not. 

Yes, I think people pushing the trans the kids madness are sick. What they are doing is sick, and I will oppose it. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, User said:

 . So... to the point, was it a culture war to you when the trans the kids madness was being pushed to begin with?

You can have problems with right and left... but you are conflating them with parties while I did not. 

Yes, I think people pushing the trans the kids madness are sick. What they are doing is sick, and I will oppose it. 

 

Well, I don't even know if I should answer because the question is cocked.  If people are pushing things then, yes, maybe it's a war that they're engaging in. And certainly some of the statements people make on both sides are about divisiveness 

 

But it's also possible to expression opinion on the topic, to offer solace to confuse youths, lots of things that are objectionable by some... One doesn't need to attack them. 

Nor do people need to demonize folks who are unsure about this either. 

So I'll say that the culture war needs both sides to continue.  But for sure the Republicans started it in the 1990s. 

And if you think it's madness, we then I don't know if we can even discuss it because you think I'm defending madness. I don't think I am. 

I don't see the point in engaging in a discussion if you think I'm evil or crazy. 

It seems like you would so.. 

How many trans people do you know? Assuming you know some, what were their experiences like?

[SpankyMcFarland]

I don’t know any transgender people well so it’s really not an issue I can get worked up about or comment on knowledgeably. In my uneducated opinion, I would like to keep female sport for what they call cis-females. If there are enough trans-male or female athletes at an event then there should be separate categories for them in addition to the traditional two. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

This deserves a slight correction. They're concerned it may affect their ultimate sexual identity negatively. In other words, even if there's sexual identity winds up being the same as it would have been regardless children can suffer serious damage from being exposed to these issues too early.

The research on this is pretty extensive, you'll have no trouble finding top of the line research papers showing that children exposed to sexuality at too early in age tend to suffer for it.

Let's be clear, the same people would also not want their children exposed to heterosexual sex acts or sexuality either.

It doesn't matter whether or not children's sexuality begins to develop at an early age. Exposing them to that early or making that part of their lived experience early does real damage. 

If it didn't i guess there'd be no problem letting adults have sex with kids.  This is for example what the man boy love people argue. 

But it does and there is a very GOOD reason why we limit children's exposure to sex or sexuality to 'age appropriate' levels and let them mature naturally. 

 

I hope we can all agree that such discussions of sexuality should be age-appropriate. I don’t see any damage resulting from my nephews interacting with gay and trans-identifying kids at school in recent years or from the discussions about them by teachers. In my day, as they say, I was fearful of gays and never heard of transgender people - not a good attitude.

[eyeball]

On 10/29/2024 at 9:39 AM, DUI_Offender said:

Lord help us if a pandemic comes along with a 50% fatality rate. 

Ah but how do you know He wouldn't be doing just that? Nothing He does is without a purpose, or so I've been given to understand.

On 10/29/2024 at 9:56 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Well, I'll bet we'll be a lot smarter afterwards though.

We could certainly count on there being a lot fewer right-wingers afterwards. That kind of a hit to the gene pool could result in a communist utopia lasting for generations.

/sarcoff 

[SkyHigh]

Easy, because conservatives have no real policies, so have to focus solely on trying to enflamme their voters personal feelings, because they have no real solutions for real problems. 

Most of the people up in arms have never even come across anyone that's transgender

[User]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well, I don't even know if I should answer because the question is cocked.  If people are pushing things then, yes, maybe it's a war that they're engaging in. And certainly some of the statements people make on both sides are about divisiveness 

There is no if. We have had these discussions before, yet you insist on using language like this. 

As I keep pointing out on here to others and you, it is only a bad "culture war" when we fight back to you and others. 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

So I'll say that the culture war needs both sides to continue.  But for sure the Republicans started it in the 1990s. 

The Republicans did not start pushing trans the kids back in the 90's. 

So, now you are trying to conflate the issue we are talking about here, with the entire concept of a culture war?

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

And if you think it's madness, we then I don't know if we can even discuss it because you think I'm defending madness. I don't think I am. 

Are you admitting that you are defending the trans the kids movement here?

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't see the point in engaging in a discussion if you think I'm evil or crazy. 

You are choosing to label yourself here, not me. We had an agreement. 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

How many trans people do you know? Assuming you know some, what were their experiences like?

What does this have to do with anything?

11 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

Easy, because conservatives have no real policies, so have to focus solely on trying to enflamme their voters personal feelings, because they have no real solutions for real problems. 

Most of the people up in arms have never even come across anyone that's transgender

If the left wing folks are not pushing trans the kids... then there would not be this policy to focus on in opposing them. 

 

[NAME REMOVED]

5 hours ago, User said:

Just own your position and be brave enough to fight for it, why resort to these petty dishonest games?

I don't really care, one way or another. I do think the biological males should not be competing in women's sports. I'm not bothered by Transgender people.

[User]

27 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I don't really care, one way or another. I do think the biological males should not be competing in women's sports. I'm not bothered by Transgender people.

At least you have enough decency to say they should not be in women's sports. 

So... you do agree then, this is a political issue to oppose folks pushing men into womens sports. This is a serious issue because folks on the left are making it one to oppose this. Glad that we got this figured out for you!