Is there any way left for Kamala to win?

[CdnFox]

As  i predicted in August, in the final weeks of the election harris would start to nosedive against trump and she has few options to pull it back. 

Nationally trumps about to catch up and pass her.  This chart is from about october 1

 

And worse in the swing states she's underwater and sinking. 

Technically speaking while the grass look quite graphic she still technically able to catch up if she can turn things around and get people interested. But if that doesn't happen by the end of the week she's going to be so far down it's going to be really hard for her to turn it around.

 

I hear she's thinking of appearing on Joe Rogan of all things. 

Is there anything she can actually do right now to turn this around and start building momentum again? Or is this basically over?

[robosmith]

Yeah, you can get out of your right wing echo chamber and face REALITY.

[Fluffypants]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As  i predicted in August, in the final weeks of the election harris would start to nosedive against trump and she has few options to pull it back. 

Nationally trumps about to catch up and pass her.  This chart is from about october 1

 

And worse in the swing states she's underwater and sinking. 

Technically speaking while the grass look quite graphic she still technically able to catch up if she can turn things around and get people interested. But if that doesn't happen by the end of the week she's going to be so far down it's going to be really hard for her to turn it around.

 

I hear she's thinking of appearing on Joe Rogan of all things. 

Is there anything she can actually do right now to turn this around and start building momentum again? Or is this basically over?

She wants to go on Rogan but I don't think he will take her. He doesn't want to get involved.

[Fluffypants]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Yeah, you can get out of your right wing echo chamber and face REALITY.

Whats the reality? The more interviews she does the lower her polls go. Her interviews are so bad they become campaign ads for Trump.

Whoever the leadership of the Democrat party is really thinks the movie "Shes all That" was a documentary. Where you can take an unpopular girl and make her prom queen just by giving her a make over and pretending she is cooler than she is.

[West]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As  i predicted in August, in the final weeks of the election harris would start to nosedive against trump and she has few options to pull it back. 

Nationally trumps about to catch up and pass her.  This chart is from about october 1

 

And worse in the swing states she's underwater and sinking. 

Technically speaking while the grass look quite graphic she still technically able to catch up if she can turn things around and get people interested. But if that doesn't happen by the end of the week she's going to be so far down it's going to be really hard for her to turn it around.

 

I hear she's thinking of appearing on Joe Rogan of all things. 

Is there anything she can actually do right now to turn this around and start building momentum again? Or is this basically over?

Unless she wins the national vote by between 2-3% she will have a tough time. 

Then again, statically for Biden to have won in 2020 while losing certain percentages of certain demographics was pretty much impossible. 

If Trump wins, leftist billionaires will try to collapse the stock marked. Because of Biden's covid policies, the wealth shifted out of the middle class to left wing billionaires by design. Hopefully the voters are willing to deal with short term pain to the benefit of their children. It's the only way

Edited October 22, 2024 by West

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Yeah, you can get out of your right wing echo chamber and face REALITY.

You're right.  There's no way she possibly could and i'm just kidding myself pretending otherwise 

  

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

Whats the reality? The more interviews she does the lower her polls go. Her interviews are so bad they become campaign ads for Trump.

Whoever the leadership of the Democrat party is really thinks the movie "Shes all That" was a documentary. Where you can take an unpopular girl and make her prom queen just by giving her a make over and pretending she is cooler than she is.

Interviews are pretty much out. The only thing that hurts are worse than the hostile interviews are the friendly ones. I mean hell it wasn't exactly a hostile environment at the view when she told them she didn't see any difference between her and Biden

I originally said that if they aren't managing to get a fair bit ahead by the end of September they're only option would be to have Biden step down and make her the president. If they had gone all of October with the Disney princess theme and pictures of the first woman president taking office and such it might have once again whipped up a lot of positive feeling and and support for her out of emotion. But now it's too late even for that.

Already got a crazy amount of advertising out there but most of it is anti-trump. The problem with anti-trump advertising is most people already think trump is a bit of a dink, even the people who are going to be voting for him. So people just tune out any kind of negative message. I warned about this effect at the beginning of the year when they were going so crazy with all of their accusations and court battles at the time

She might get some headway if she were to do a major platform release. Kind of like the liberal red book in Canada or o'Toole's last campaign, a comprehensive written plan that really outlines a vision for the future and how it's going to get there that clearly spells out the benefits to all of the various groups she wants to appeal to.

But the problem is I don't think she has one and it's probably too late to write one unless they get very busy right now

[Fluffypants]

There is a silver lining for Democrats if she loses and that is that it won't become common place to just dump the candidate the people chose just because they appear to be losing and install another candidate.

Edited October 22, 2024 by Fluffypants

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

There is a silver lining for Democrats if she loses and that is that it won't become common place to just dump the candidate the people chose just because they appear to be losing and install another candidate.

It's true, it's nice to see them punished for that. And there is a very strong possibility that Biden will come back and say he could have won it and they should never have done that. It won't be true but enough people will believe it that it will create a rift in the party.

It'll probably make them think more about Diversity hires for VP positions.

They're going to have to do a long rethink. Trump's gone after the next one so they won't be able to run against his record, and I'll have to think very carefully about the mistakes they made and why America rejected them.

I mean there's no physical way they could have slagged him off more, it's not like he has a brilliant reputation in many respects, they had all the money in the universe and all of the mainstream press covering for them 24/7. It doesn't get much sweeter than what they had and they still lost horribly

The republicans are going to have to do some thinking too. I suspect the era of trump is over and they'll want somebody that brings more stability and Cooperation one way or another.

But in the short term I just don't see anything Kamala can do to swing the poles back into her favor. Trump would have to make some sort of gargantuan mistake

[Fluffypants]

20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's true, it's nice to see them punished for that. And there is a very strong possibility that Biden will come back and say he could have won it and they should never have done that. It won't be true but enough people will believe it that it will create a rift in the party.

It'll probably make them think more about Diversity hires for VP positions.

They're going to have to do a long rethink. Trump's gone after the next one so they won't be able to run against his record, and I'll have to think very carefully about the mistakes they made and why America rejected them.

I mean there's no physical way they could have slagged him off more, it's not like he has a brilliant reputation in many respects, they had all the money in the universe and all of the mainstream press covering for them 24/7. It doesn't get much sweeter than what they had and they still lost horribly

The republicans are going to have to do some thinking too. I suspect the era of trump is over and they'll want somebody that brings more stability and Cooperation one way or another.

But in the short term I just don't see anything Kamala can do to swing the poles back into her favor. Trump would have to make some sort of gargantuan mistake

I think Vance is the future, he is Trump without the baggage.

[robosmith]

22 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

I think Vance is the future, he is Trump without the baggage.

Vance has a huge amount of HIS OWN baggage. See his and Theil's mentor Curtis Yarvin.

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[ironstone]

It's election night. In the key swing states, polling stations pull down the shutters, kick out Republican observers and then lock the doors. Vans pull up and start unloading...

Yes, Harris can still win but it will look very sketchy.

[Fluffypants]

33 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Vance has a huge amount of HIS OWN baggage. See his and Theil's mentor Curtis Yarvin.

Inside the New Right, Where Peter Thiel Is Placing His ...

Vanity Fair

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Apr 20, 2022 — They're not MAGA. They're not QAnon. Curtis Yarvin and the rising right are crafting a different strain of conservative politics.

 

White Nationalism

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https://www.vanityfair.com › topic › white-nationalism

 

They're not MAGA. They're not QAnon. Curtis Yarvin and the rising right are crafting a different strain of conservative politics.

We know all about them hard hitting journalists at Vanity Fair, what happened did Vance dare to wear white after labor day or did he wear skinny jeans to a wedding?

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

We know all about them hard hitting journalists at Vanity Fair, what happened did Vance dare to wear white after labor day or did he wear skinny jeans to a wedding?

The Left is already giving up on Kamala and has accepted trump will win and is looking for the next invented 'threat' 

Worse than reganomics - worse that maga - its.......  Theilology!!!!! Or YARVINISM!!!! Or MDCA (make democrats cry again!)  

No matter who the current republican is that person is WAY worse than the LAST guy!  

It would be that way if Jesus ran. They say he had an out of control drinking problem and shows up at weddings to promote alcoholism and is a threat to the world's water supply. A claim he led a suicide pact with his followers and then he's done authorized medical procedures to return to life. He exploited hookers and women for his own personal gain. Etc etc

[robosmith]

18 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

We know all about them hard hitting journalists at Vanity Fair, what happened did Vance dare to wear white after labor day or did he wear skinny jeans to a wedding?

You're mistaking Vance for Obama who was excoriated for wearing a TAN suit by RepubliCONS and FOS LIES.

Only you MAGA CULT consider that a faux pas.

But congrats on your LAME attempt to DEFLECT from the Curtis Yarvin SCANDAL. Maybe READ about it instead of asking stupid questions.

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[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, West said:

Unless she wins the national vote by between 2-3% she will have a tough time. 

Then again, statically for Biden to have won in 2020 while losing certain percentages of certain demographics was pretty much impossible. 

If Trump wins, leftist billionaires will try to collapse the stock marked. Because of Biden's covid policies, the wealth shifted out of the middle class to left wing billionaires by design. Hopefully the voters are willing to deal with short term pain to the benefit of their children. It's the only way

biden won because of extensive ballot harvesting in key states (And because trump ran a crap campaign of course) 

But this time it looks like the key states are going to be going to trump based on the trend lines. It's not over yet at this moment, the race is still fairly close, but Kamala is definitely trending down quickly and unless she has some way of turning that around and picking it back up or unless trump makes some sort of horrible mistake in the last minutes then that gap is going to widen and it's already almost at the point where it's pretty much a trump victory.

If she held it where it is right now she might be able to peg out so to speak, to steal a cribbage term. And by that I mean she might be able to win based on voter turnout. Right now it looks like the vote is close enough that if she could manage to harness the democrats get out the vote team effectively she might very well win even though she's behind in the polls.

Like I said that gap is widening and it's widening quickly and I don't see how she can stop that.

[August1991]

38 minutes ago, ironstone said:

It's election night. In the key swing states, polling stations pull down the shutters, kick out Republican observers and then lock the doors. Vans pull up and start unloading...

Yes, Harris can still win but it will look very sketchy.

Disagree. Strongly.

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Rather, you Americans are now voting the way that we Canadians submit our census forms.

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, August1991 said:

Disagree. Strongly.

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Rather, you Americans are now voting the way that we Canadians submit our census forms.

 

We've already been over why that is a complete lie. Further you insisted it was impossible for trump to win. You stated that the democrats found Kryptonite or some such other nonsense and that the republicans would never be able to win again.

You've insisted that multiple times.  Those are you constant claims - the republcans can't win because the us votes on a census form and kryptonite. 

But the dems are losing and when they do you're going to look like the most uneducated loser in the world. 

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

She wants to go on Rogan but I don't think he will take her. He doesn't want to get involved.

He's taking Trump.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-appear-joe-rogans-podcast-latest-outreach-young-male-voters-rcna176622

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

He's taking Trump.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-appear-joe-rogans-podcast-latest-outreach-young-male-voters-rcna176622

wow, that might really help with his GOTV with younger people if he does it right.