BeaverFever Posted October 19, 2024 Author Report Posted October 19, 2024 5 hours ago, User said: Also the dude Obama colluded with to help him win an election by stalling on missile defense policy... You know, back when Democrats were joking that it was not the 1980's anymore to win an election. The only reason you guys hate Putin and Russia as much as you do right now is because it is politically convenient so you can attack Trump with it. Obama didn’t “collude” with Putin there was nothing secretive about diplomatic overtures and attempt at detente. Trump’s ties to Putin are personal and secretive, often contradictory to what he says in public. And AGAIN note that his people attempted to deny, attack and discredit the source of the story with their usual visceral childish insults before Trump basically admitting it was true. Not a single one of you Trump cultists can muster a word to say in response to that, can you? Quote
User Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 48 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Obama didn’t “collude” with Putin there was nothing secretive about diplomatic overtures and attempt at detente. Of course he did. He was caught red handed trying to convey a message to Putin to wait until the election was over to deal with him. 48 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Trump’s ties to Putin are personal and secretive, often contradictory to what he says in public. Who knows what else Obama said that was not caught. 49 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: And AGAIN note that his people attempted to deny, attack and discredit the source of the story with their usual visceral childish insults before Trump basically admitting it was true. Not a single one of you Trump cultists can muster a word to say in response to that, can you? Its amazing how you folks don't pay attention to any of the details. The assertion was that he was sent a "machine" "coveted Covid-19 testing machines" Reality, Russia claimed it was a few test kits. Russia also said there were no phone calls. The way you guys are trumping this up was as if we sent some rare machine and it looks like it was just a handful of those stupid kits that were eventually handed out like candy for Halloween. So, if Russia is your big source for confirming the story, then you must also believe them when they say it is not true about the phone calls? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 So...the guy who was...and may be again...the most powerful man on earth...is in contact with the second most powerful guy on earth. And that's...a bad thing? You Libbies...this is why you always fail. You're what is called...stupid. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted October 19, 2024 Author Report Posted October 19, 2024 3 hours ago, User said: Of course he did. He was caught red handed trying to convey a message to Putin to wait until the election was over to deal with him. LMAO its not colluding for politician in their lame duck phase and running for reelection to accurately state that he would have more flexibility to negotiate treaties once he’s reelected. A person making a single statement is not “collusion” by any definition, especially not when that the statement is simply stating the obvious and done in front of the global media as opposed Trump’s secret meetings and plotting. I love it when you try to equate trump’s disgusting behaviour with something a democrat did that’s absolutely nothing like it 3 hours ago, User said: Who knows what else Obama said that was not caught. Lol ok if you want to play that game: Who knows what secret deals Tump made that weren’t caught? Or other crimes he may have committed? For that matter who knows how many murdered children you have under your bed? I mean “who knows” right? Trumps people were repeatedly meeting and scheming with Russians in secret and repeatedly lied about it. Obama met Medvedev openly at an international conference in full view of the press. Medvedev was pushing him on points of contention and Obama told him to give it a rest because he can’t do anything politically one way or the other until after the election. How much kool-aid does a MAGA need to drink to claim those are the exact same things. And can you MAGAs please get your story straight on democrats and Putin? Are the democrats war mongers who are too hard on Russia and trying to start ww3 or are they pushovers who are too soft on Putin , which was the Republican criticism of Obama’s statement at the time. You folks talk out of both sides of your mouths . 3 hours ago, User said: So, if Russia is your big source for confirming the story, then you must also believe them when they say it is not true about the phone calls? Trump’s people said the whole thing was a lie. At best half of it was true. But now Trump’s saying “If I did call him it was a very smart thing to do” which is obviously an admission. It’s not like he’d go out of his way to tell us about a very smart thing he didn't do. As for why Kremlin only half-corroborated the story, it’s obvious Putin is playing Trump and making him dance on a string. Trump didn’t come out with his backhanded admission until AFTER the Kremlin debunked his campaign’s initial blanket denial Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 10 hours ago, Nationalist said: So...the guy who was...and may be again...the most powerful man on earth...is in contact with the second most powerful guy on earth. And that's...a bad thing? You Libbies...this is why you always fail. You're what is called...stupid. You think Putin is the second most powerful man on earth? You Russian bot-boys are hilarious! 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 41 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: You think Putin is the second most powerful man on earth? You Russian bot-boys are hilarious! You don't? He has the world's largest nuclear arsenal. You Libbies really do take stupid to a whole new depth. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 (edited) 15 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You base that on what exactly? Otherwise than just trying to have the opposite beliefs of whatever a liberal says? What exactly is it you think a “real leader” for Ukraine should do? Surrender? Zelenskyy needs to be replaced. It's all right here, comrade, take a look: https://www.conservapedia.com/Volodymyr_Zelensky As I read through this stuff, I was stunned over how scummy this psychopath is. He's so much worse than just a mooch. Edited October 19, 2024 by Deluge Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: You don't? He has the world's largest nuclear arsenal. You Libbies really do take stupid to a whole new depth. That he can't use because it would mean the end of Russia. Sorry. You guys are nothing but a failed klepto-state that has good cyber ops because that's your only option left and you have nothing to lose. Edited October 19, 2024 by Chrissy1979 1 Quote
myata Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 Vlad got really scared because this was a new thing, it was spreading silently and deadly and his sucky clueless Sussia had no clue what to do about it. Now where would he turn to, to who - in such a pickle? Our eyes and the brain: they exist for a reason. We knew everything. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 11 hours ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO its not colluding for politician in their lame duck phase and running for reelection to accurately state that he would have more flexibility to negotiate treaties once he’s reelected. That is the very definition of colluding. Obama tried to relay a secret message to Putin, so he would back off the missile defense stuff until after the election. Why would Obama need to wait for more flexibility? As in... once he wins the election, then he is a lame duck and can do what he wants because he doesn't have another election to win. 11 hours ago, BeaverFever said: A person making a single statement is not “collusion” by any definition, especially not when that the statement is simply stating the obvious and done in front of the global media as opposed Trump’s secret meetings and plotting. It was whispered between the two of them, not meant to be heard by anyone. He was caught on a hot mic. If all he was doing was stating the obvious... why need to state it at all? The reality is that this was a big deal, he was caught on a hot mic trying to collude with Putin to win an election. 11 hours ago, BeaverFever said: I love it when you try to equate trump’s disgusting behaviour with something a democrat did that’s absolutely nothing like it You guys are on here wailing about the accusation Trump was taking to Putin. Now you are on here trying to downplay Obama trying to relay a secret message to Putin. You guys have spent years crying and claiming Trump was colluding with Putin... here you have Obama on a hot mic doing literally just that. All to play politics to win an election. 11 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Obama met Medvedev openly at an international conference in full view of the press. Medvedev was pushing him on points of contention and Obama told him to give it a rest because he can’t do anything politically one way or the other until after the election. How much kool-aid does a MAGA need to drink to claim those are the exact same things. It was a secret message, not meant to be heard. He was caught on a hot mic. The only one drinking kool-aid here is you, as you convince yourself this was all some above the board comment like it was done and meant to be heard. 11 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You folks talk out of both sides of your mouths . Not me. You can see me on here routinely criticizing Putin, this war, and arguing with the id1ots who try to defend Russia and push BS. Nope, between you and I, I am the honest one here and consistent. 11 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Trump’s people said the whole thing was a lie. At best half of it was true. No, asserting Trump gave Putin some kind of special "machine" as if they were rare and precious and it was all for some personal relationship with Putin, when the only thing Russia confirmed was that it was a few testing kits, is not confirming that half of it was true. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: That he can't use because it would mean the end of Russia. Sorry. You guys are nothing but a failed klepto-state that has good cyber ops because that's your only option left and you have nothing to lose. Wow...don't become a diplomat. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Chrissy1979 Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 29 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Wow...don't become a diplomat. You guys want your balls fluffed? Ooh! Big bear is so strong! Quote
Nationalist Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 6 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: You guys want your balls fluffed? Ooh! Big bear is so strong! Fluffed? No. Sucked? Sure. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Chrissy1979 Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Fluffed? No. Sucked? Sure. I hear the Russian Army is great at that Quote
Nationalist Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 19 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: I hear the Russian Army is great at that I hear Kamala might be accomplished at that too. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted October 20, 2024 Author Report Posted October 20, 2024 Donald Trump's Intel Chief Suspected Putin's 'Blackmail': Bob Woodward Journalist Bob Woodward said in an interview with podcaster Tim Miller on October 17 that Dan Coats, Donald Trump's former director of national intelligence, suspects Russian President Vladimir Putin is blackmailing the Republicannominee … Coats, who has previously issued warnings on Trump's behavior since leaving the former president's employ, was the director of national intelligence from 2017 to 2019, before being let go from the position after disagreeing with the then president on several issues. Woodward raises this conversation with Coats in his recently published book, which also details behind-the-scenes accounts of how President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harrisdealt with the Ukraine-Russia war and the conflict in the Middle East, as well as Trump's "conducting a shadow presidency and seeking to regain political power," according to publisher Simon & Schuster.… https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-intel-chief-dan-coats-suspected-putins-blackmail-bob-woodward-1971807?utm_source=Flipboard&utm_medium=App&utm_campaign=Partnerships Quote
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