The sad state of Canadian leadership concerning Israel and the middle east

[taxme]

On 11/18/2024 at 7:31 PM, blackbird said:

If you are talking about the books in the Old Testament that tell the history of the Jews, that was written by Hebrew (Jewish) men under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God.  It was written by several dozen authors over a period of more than a thousand years ending around 400 B.C. or ending about 2,400 years ago.

The Old Testament history of Israel is recorded in detail in the historical books of the Bible.

This website is a brief outline of it.

A Brief Chronological History of Old Testament Israel | by David Norczyk | Medium

This history says in part:

"In all, Old Testament biblical history spans from Adam to John the Baptist. This is a chronological expanse of some 4,100 years with Abraham occupying the center point at roughly 2,000 years before the arrival of Jesus Messiah, the promised God-man sent from heaven to save His people from their sins (Mt 1:21)."

I don't know of any other nation which has such a long history and which began as the Jewish nation approximately 4,000 years ago.  They are also unique in the fact that their identity as a people survived the past 2,000 years while dispersed throughout the world.

They probably have survived to today because they pretty much run and own everything these days. It would appear that everything today is all about the chosen ones. God does not love me anyway because he already has made it clear to me that his choice as to who will be his pampered pooches and spoiled people are what we call the chosen ones in the bible. And here i thought that God loves everybody. Ha-ha-ha. 

When Nutinyahoo comes to town to address the congress, all congressmen and women must attend or else. Fact!

[taxme]

On 11/19/2024 at 7:20 AM, PIK said:

Isreal took over a shitty part of the world and build a great democracy. We will never have peace till the Iranian leadership is completely wiped out, then hamas and hezzy will die off. But be a couple yrs before Isreal could take on iran.

From what i have read, Israel stole the land that they live on now from the Palestinians. Fact! We will never have peace until Israel is disarmed and America stops supporting that shitty part of the world. Just my opinion. 

[PIK]

3 hours ago, taxme said:

From what i have read, Israel stole the land that they live on now from the Palestinians. Fact! We will never have peace until Israel is disarmed and America stops supporting that shitty part of the world. Just my opinion. 

You better keep reading.

[blackbird]

7 hours ago, taxme said:

God does not love me anyway because he already has made it clear to me that his choice as to who will be his pampered pooches and spoiled people are what we call the chosen ones in the bible.

No, that is not true.  The Bible says:

"16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."  John 3: 16, 17 KJV

God loved man so much he sent his Son to earth to suffer and be crucified on a cross for the sins of man.

So while God chose the nation of Israel for a special purpose, he also loved all of mankind, Jew and Gentile, so much that he came to earth to suffer and die on a cross for the sins of mankind.  This offer of salvation and atonement is available to everyone who believes in Jesus Christ as Savior.

Edited November 26, 2024 by blackbird

[taxme]

On 11/25/2024 at 2:52 PM, PIK said:

You better keep reading.

Keep reading what? 

[taxme]

On 11/25/2024 at 6:40 PM, blackbird said:

No, that is not true.  The Bible says:

"16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."  John 3: 16, 17 KJV

God loved man so much he sent his Son to earth to suffer and be crucified on a cross for the sins of man.

So while God chose the nation of Israel for a special purpose, he also loved all of mankind, Jew and Gentile, so much that he came to earth to suffer and die on a cross for the sins of mankind.  This offer of salvation and atonement is available to everyone who believes in Jesus Christ as Savior.

And what was that special purpose did God give to the chosen ones to do? And the only people that seem to be paying the price for your so called "Israel's special purpose" is to cause more suffering for Arab gentiles. God's chosen people are not suffering as much as the Arabs are in the Middle East from Israel's constant bombing the shit out of Arabs. 

Again, God should be not picking one people over another. That is not kosher. Just my opinion. 

PS: I noticed that you have yet to respond to what i said about what Ariel Sharon once said in the Knesset where he said "Israel owns America"? Can you explain what that was all about? Thanks. 

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

And what was that special purpose did God give to the chosen ones to do?

There are different articles that answer that.  This one makes sense.

"Speaking of the nation of Israel, Deuteronomy 7:7-9 tells us, “The LORD did not set His affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. But it was because the LORD loved you and kept the oath He swore to your forefathers that He brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; He is the faithful God, keeping His covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love Him and keep His commands.”

God chose the nation of Israel to be the people through whom Jesus Christ would be born—the Savior from sin and death (John 3:16). God first promised the Messiah after Adam and Eve’s fall into sin (Genesis chapter 3). God later confirmed that the Messiah would come from the line of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Genesis 12:1-3). Jesus Christ is the ultimate reason why God chose Israel to be His special people. God did not need to have a chosen people, but He decided to do it that way. Jesus had to come from some nation of people, and God chose Israel.

However, God’s reason for choosing the nation of Israel was not solely for the purpose of producing the Messiah. God’s desire for Israel was that they would go and teach others about Him. Israel was to be a nation of priests, prophets, and missionaries to the world. God’s intent was for Israel to be a distinct people, a nation who pointed others towards God and His promised provision of a Redeemer, Messiah, and Savior. For the most part, Israel failed in this task. However, God’s ultimate purpose for Israel—that of bringing the Messiah into the world—was fulfilled perfectly in the Person of Jesus Christ."

Why did God choose Israel to be His chosen people? | GotQuestions.org

2 hours ago, taxme said:

And the only people that seem to be paying the price for your so called "Israel's special purpose" is to cause more suffering for Arab gentiles.

This is mainly caused by their own hatred of Israel.  This is how it has always been.

They hate Israel and want to destroy it and never seem to change their thinking.

Israel has a right to defend itself.  Therefore the conflict never ends.

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Again, God should be not picking one people over another.

God is sovereign and can do things the way he chooses.  Who is man to say what or how God should do things?

Should the created being tell his Creator what to do?

I would advise you to get a King James Bible (Authorized Version) and start studying it.  Life is short and there is not much time to get on the good side with God.  We also appear to be living in the end times which are prophesied in the Bible.  There may be a major war on the horizon.  Things could get very bad.  Regardless of that, we need to be prepared to meet God in the judgment.  The Bible says we are all appointed to die and after that the judgment.  Get right with God.

[taxme]

On 11/27/2024 at 7:49 PM, blackbird said:

There are different articles that answer that.  This one makes sense.

"Speaking of the nation of Israel, Deuteronomy 7:7-9 tells us, “The LORD did not set His affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. But it was because the LORD loved you and kept the oath He swore to your forefathers that He brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; He is the faithful God, keeping His covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love Him and keep His commands.”

God chose the nation of Israel to be the people through whom Jesus Christ would be born—the Savior from sin and death (John 3:16). God first promised the Messiah after Adam and Eve’s fall into sin (Genesis chapter 3). God later confirmed that the Messiah would come from the line of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Genesis 12:1-3). Jesus Christ is the ultimate reason why God chose Israel to be His special people. God did not need to have a chosen people, but He decided to do it that way. Jesus had to come from some nation of people, and God chose Israel.

However, God’s reason for choosing the nation of Israel was not solely for the purpose of producing the Messiah. God’s desire for Israel was that they would go and teach others about Him. Israel was to be a nation of priests, prophets, and missionaries to the world. God’s intent was for Israel to be a distinct people, a nation who pointed others towards God and His promised provision of a Redeemer, Messiah, and Savior. For the most part, Israel failed in this task. However, God’s ultimate purpose for Israel—that of bringing the Messiah into the world—was fulfilled perfectly in the Person of Jesus Christ."

Why did God choose Israel to be His chosen people? | GotQuestions.org

This is mainly caused by their own hatred of Israel.  This is how it has always been.

They hate Israel and want to destroy it and never seem to change their thinking.

Israel has a right to defend itself.  Therefore the conflict never ends.

God is sovereign and can do things the way he chooses.  Who is man to say what or how God should do things?

Should the created being tell his Creator what to do?

I would advise you to get a King James Bible (Authorized Version) and start studying it.  Life is short and there is not much time to get on the good side with God.  We also appear to be living in the end times which are prophesied in the Bible.  There may be a major war on the horizon.  Things could get very bad.  Regardless of that, we need to be prepared to meet God in the judgment.  The Bible says we are all appointed to die and after that the judgment.  Get right with God.

Never mind all those quotes from the bible. I do not care what the bible says because the bible was written by the Jews like pretty much everything else written in this world. Chapters and Indigo are owned by Jews in Canada. For so-called  persecuted people, they seem to be doing quite well and pretty great in a world that supposedly hates them? 

But you still will not answer the question that i asked you twice already to do, which was, what did Ariel Sharon mean when he said that "Israel controls America"? That was quite a statement to make? 

There is only one country that all the world needs to fear from the possibility of them being behind and starting a 3rd WW. I will give the one and only answer you need to come up with. And it ain't Canada. 😁

[blackbird]

36 minutes ago, taxme said:

But you still will not answer the question that i asked you twice already to do, which was, what did Ariel Sharon mean when he said that "Israel controls America"? That was quite a statement to make? 

I have never heard of it.  I know nothing about it and of course don't have the answer.  People make statements all the time.  Trudeau does it continually.  I am not sure what the context of the statement was either.  One would need to understand what the discussion was about and in what sense he made that statement.  

Personally I don't think Israel "controls America"..  So without knowing the context, it really has no meaning or relevance.  People often latch onto isolated words someone makes to try to invent some new accusation or meaning.  That could be the case with this.

36 minutes ago, taxme said:

Chapters and Indigo are owned by Jews in Canada. For so-called  persecuted people, they seem to be doing quite well and pretty great in a world that supposedly hates them? 

That is a fairly nonsensical claim.  So a few Jews own some businesses?  Likely a few non-Jews own a lot of big businesses as well.  Is that a crime now?  That doesn't prove anything.  They have been persecuted for 2,000 years throughout much of world. 

One third of European Jews were murdered in the Holocaust.  If you look at the claims the natives make for residential school abuse, that pales in comparison to the Holocaust when millions were murdered and the 2,000 years of persecution.  If they had the right to claim restitution for all that was done to them, there would be no amount of money in the world that could pay it.  Giving them there own country back which is just a tiny piece of land, is the very least that could be done.

The fact a few own some big businesses doesn't change the fact that they have been persecuted incessantly for 2,000 years.  If a few are brilliant enough to know how to be successful in some big business good for them.  But that changes nothing about the history of anti-Semitism that is still going on and getting worse apparently in Canada.

Edited November 29, 2024 by blackbird

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I have never heard of it.  I know nothing about it and of course don't have the answer. 

It's an old story, oft repeated. 

 Here's a taste of it.  Expect the source to be attacked. 

I can't speak to the accuracy of it but I'm pretty sure it's not worth debating with people who believe in chemtrails. But that's just me.

Ya, I see you reaching for the keyboard, right back at ya taxman...  

 

Edited November 29, 2024 by Venandi

[taxme]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I have never heard of it.  I know nothing about it and of course don't have the answer.  People make statements all the time.  Trudeau does it continually.  I am not sure what the context of the statement was either.  One would need to understand what the discussion was about and in what sense he made that statement.  

Personally I don't think Israel "controls America"..  So without knowing the context, it really has no meaning or relevance.  People often latch onto isolated words someone makes to try to invent some new accusation or meaning.  That could be the case with this.

That is a fairly nonsensical claim.  So a few Jews own some businesses?  Likely a few non-Jews own a lot of big businesses as well.  Is that a crime now?  That doesn't prove anything.  They have been persecuted for 2,000 years throughout much of world. 

One third of European Jews were murdered in the Holocaust.  If you look at the claims the natives make for residential school abuse, that pales in comparison to the Holocaust when millions were murdered and the 2,000 years of persecution.  If they had the right to claim restitution for all that was done to them, there would be no amount of money in the world that could pay it.  Giving them there own country back which is just a tiny piece of land, is the very least that could be done.

The fact a few own some big businesses doesn't change the fact that they have been persecuted incessantly for 2,000 years.  If a few are brilliant enough to know how to be successful in some big business good for them.  But that changes nothing about the history of anti-Semitism that is still going on and getting worse apparently in Canada.

Sharon's statement is on the internet if you care to look for it. 

Only someone not with the program will never find out as to who really controls America. It's so obvious for all to see. Brother Nathaniel(Jewish) can explain it all to you. Go check out his website. 

When you control. Hollywood, the entertainment industry, and most of the left wing liberal MSM, and many politicians, you do control and own America. 

The Holodamor was just as big when it came to murder, but yet, we never hear about that historical event. All we ever hear and get is about the Holocaust event. Why? I have no animosity towards the Jews, it is just that I am fed up with their whining and crying about the Holocaust. Enough already. Gentiles have lost hundreds of millions of their people in wars, but yet, we never hear them whine about it or ask for restitution, which they would never get anyway. Jews have no restitution to claim. Whom are they going to get restitution from if they tried? They do not need to anyway? They have more money than any other people on earth combined will ever have. They are the richest people in the world. Get with the program, will you. They stole land and have no right to be on that land that Israel sits on now. You know that. All just my opinion of course. 

 

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Sharon's statement is on the internet if you care to look for it. 

Only someone not with the program will never find out as to who really controls America. It's so obvious for all to see. Brother Nathaniel(Jewish) can explain it all to you. Go check out his website. 

When you control. Hollywood, the entertainment industry, and most of the left wing liberal MSM, and many politicians, you do control and own America. 

The Holodamor was just as big when it came to murder, but yet, we never hear about that historical event. All we ever hear and get is about the Holocaust event. Why? I have no animosity towards the Jews, it is just that I am fed up with their whining and crying about the Holocaust. Enough already. Gentiles have lost hundreds of millions of their people in wars, but yet, we never hear them whine about it or ask for restitution, which they would never get anyway. Jews have no restitution to claim. Whom are they going to get restitution from if they tried? They do not need to anyway? They have more money than any other people on earth combined will ever have. They are the richest people in the world. Get with the program, will you. They stole land and have no right to be on that land that Israel sits on now. You know that. All just my opinion of course. 

 

Good grief.  You are so far out of touch with reality I don't know what to say.

Almost everything you said is false.

1.  America is a superpower and controlled by Americans.  It is silly to think a tiny state of Israel controls the superpower of U.S.A.  That really shows how far out of reality you must be.

2. The Holocaust took place in Europe which is made up of western countries.  It resulted in the death of about one third of the European Jews in the 20th century.  The anti-Semitism that led to it is still going on.  You yourself are an example of the extreme falsehoods that anti-Semites often believe.  The conspiracy theory that the Jews control America or are going to take over the world.  That they control the banking and money systems.  All conspiracy theories born out of the corrupt human heart.

3.  I don't think they are claiming restitution for the nearly two millenia of anti-semitism and persecution.  But if you go by Canada's payment of billions to FNs, that might set a precedent.

4.  They never stole the land of Israel.  It has been their land for thousands of years. 

[eyeball]

19 hours ago, blackbird said:

Good grief.  You are so far out of touch with reality I don't know what to say.

How ironic. 🤣

[taxme]

On 11/29/2024 at 3:13 PM, blackbird said:

Good grief.  You are so far out of touch with reality I don't know what to say.

Almost everything you said is false.

1.  America is a superpower and controlled by Americans.  It is silly to think a tiny state of Israel controls the superpower of U.S.A.  That really shows how far out of reality you must be.

2. The Holocaust took place in Europe which is made up of western countries.  It resulted in the death of about one third of the European Jews in the 20th century.  The anti-Semitism that led to it is still going on.  You yourself are an example of the extreme falsehoods that anti-Semites often believe.  The conspiracy theory that the Jews control America or are going to take over the world.  That they control the banking and money systems.  All conspiracy theories born out of the corrupt human heart.

3.  I don't think they are claiming restitution for the nearly two millenia of anti-semitism and persecution.  But if you go by Canada's payment of billions to FNs, that might set a precedent.

4.  They never stole the land of Israel.  It has been their land for thousands of years. 

Are you sure that you are not the one out of touch? 

(1) I told you many times already here what Sharon said about Israel owning America. Why would you think that a tiny minority state like Israel cannot control America? When Israel and AIPAC speaks, America listens. No one in the MSM or any politician will dare criticize Israel. Fact. 

(2) What about the tens of millions of Gentiles that died in the died in the 20th century. You need to get with the program. Brother Nathaniel can give you all the information you need to show as to who really owns America. If you refuse to do so, than it is you that has a corrupt human heart. 

(3)Maybe the Gentiles of the world should claim restitution from the Jews for what they have done to the rest of the Gentile world. Giving restitution to any group of people is criminal and is a theft of taxpayer's tax dollars. The FN's have received for many decades now hundreds of billions of our Canadian tax dollars where they should all now be one of the most richest groups in Canada. So, why do they keep asking for more? Restitution is nothing more than a gigantic ripoff where people who had nothing to do with what happened to any group in the past are now being forced to pay for what others did in the past. 

(4)So, if the land was their's for thousands of years, why did they go back and decid to take and steal the land that was now occupied by others? It should have been tough luck for the Jews of Europe. As Helen Thomas, Lebanese and an American journalist once said that the Jews should go back to Europe where they came from. There will never be any peace in the Middle East as long as the Jews continue to occupy Palestine. All just my opinion of course. 😇 

 

Edited December 3, 2024 by taxme