Tightest Race Ever - despite ALL the insane goings on Harris and Trump are still within a hair's breath of each other. How is this happening?

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

No, stupid. If they do withhold it's because the democrats rigged the election. The simple fix to this is don't cheat in the first place.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.  

They don't have the legal authority to investigate the election validity.

And that is being made clear by peremptory court rulings.

[gatomontes99]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The law is Constitutional until ruled not.

LMAO....no. That's not how this works.

 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for proving you know next to NOTHING about what happened.

It was the big money donors (incl Clooney) who showed Joe the light.

 

Nope. It was Pelosi. She called him, said you can't win, basically threatened him and ruined their relationship with each other and he backed out.

[robosmith]

29 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

LMAO....no. That's not how this works.

Posting a youtube meme is NOT evidence for your claim. IOW, ^this is not how debate works.

[sharkman]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

which was corroborated by the SWORN TESTIMONY of WH INSIDERS at the House hearing.

You seem to believe you can just wave your hand and make that go away.

Here's a clue for you: sworn testimony trumps everything else. 

Talk to the hand.

[gatomontes99]

22 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Posting a youtube meme is NOT evidence for your claim. IOW, ^this is not how debate works.

I gave your post all the seriousness it deserves. If you aren't going to educate yourself on how our govwrnment, legislation andlegal systems work, I am not going to waste my time.

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Posting a youtube meme is NOT evidence for your claim. IOW, ^this is not how debate works.

Says the guy who got his law education on reddit. 

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Sure I can...and will.

Yet no charges...oh well. You failed again.

There are charges, dummy. That's what an indictment means.

[Deluge]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

They don't have the legal authority to investigate the election validity.

Point out where I said anything about investigations. 

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LOL Not even close. 

The tightest race ever, was the 2000 Election between Gore and Bush, which was decided by a single state, by a few  hundred votes. 

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

LOL Not even close. 

The tightest race ever, was the 2000 Election between Gore and Bush, which was decided by a single state, by a few  hundred votes. 

Sigh. 

that is not polling, that is the actual election result.  We're talking about polling.  We won't know the result of this election until later. That's how elections work. 

And as you can see here:

Polling for United States presidential elections - Wikipedia

The polling during that election was actually quite dynamic, with the candidates being close then very far apart then closing etc. 

In this case they are absolutely locked in with each other and not straying more than 2 points apart and more like about 1.5 - 1.7, well within the margin of error. 

It's always a good idea to stop and Repeat the question in your mind to make sure when you provide an answer it's to the correct question. Yours was not.

[Five of swords]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So according to the latest polls looking at the swing States Harris and Trump are so close you'd have a difficult time slipping a barbecued cat hair between them.

They are very well within the margin of errors in the swing states and can only be said to be in an absolute tie. It could go either way so easily it's not funny.

So what this is going to come down to is the getting out the vote. Unless something changes the party who gets their vote out will win.

How is this possible? There has been more going on in this election than any I can remember. There's been debates, candidates have fallen by the wayside, no less than two assassination attempts, elderly men have gone senile, cats have been eaten, foghorn Leghorn accents have been used, conventions have been held featuring giant IUD's and free abortions,  Hulk Hogan has taken an active roll to mobilize the Hulksters and still the two candidates are within 2% of each other or less nationally and in the swing states it's basically a dead heat.

 

So what's going to break this? Are we just going to have an absolute tie right up to the election day? There's no more debates except for the vice presidents, harris obviously isn't going to do any more interviews, trump may very well get shot at again but obviously it doesn't change the numbers, what's going to break this deadlock?

Honestly as I have said before I believe that trump has the advantage in a long game but it's amazing to watch how flat the poles are no matter what happens.

 

(also side prediction, the next attempt on trump will be a drone which will be able to get close enough because it's got an ' eat at Joe's" banner behind it ) 

This is exactly how the people who rule the usa like to engineer the society. Half the population blames the other half for all the problems and nobody is accountable. Nothing important is discussed because of the constant false dialectic. 'Republicans' basically support the foreign policy and free market that jews like while 'democrats' provide the tolerance for degenerate and race mixing, which jews also like. Then we pretend to 'compromise' and jews get everything they want. There will never be socialized health care, and there will never be a country for white people. And everyone will blame the other party rather than the people who actually rule.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Five of swords said:

This is exactly how the people who rule the usa like to engineer the society. Half the population blames the other half for all the problems and nobody is accountable. Nothing important is discussed because of the constant false dialectic. 'Republicans' basically support the foreign policy and free market that jews like while 'democrats' provide the tolerance for degenerate and race mixing, which jews also like. Then we pretend to 'compromise' and jews get everything they want. There will never be socialized health care, and there will never be a country for white people. And everyone will blame the other party rather than the people who actually rule.

Well, setting aside the obvious racism, anti-semitism and insanity, and assuming that you meant that they set the narrative rather than the dialect, i think it's true that the parties have moved away from discussion of policy and direction of the country and moved towards nonsense and trivial issues and calling each other names. 

But really is that the parties trying to control things? Or is that a case of that's what the public wants so the politicians give it to them.  Usually politics is downstream of culture

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well, setting aside the obvious racism, anti-semitism and insanity, and assuming that you meant that they set the narrative rather than the dialect, i think it's true that the parties have moved away from discussion of policy and direction of the country and moved towards nonsense and trivial issues and calling each other names. 

But really is that the parties trying to control things? Or is that a case of that's what the public wants so the politicians give it to them.  Usually politics is downstream of culture

Culture is downstream from law. Law is downstream from money

[NAME REMOVED]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Sigh. 

that is not polling, that is the actual election result.  We're talking about polling.  We won't know the result of this election until later. That's how elections work. 

And as you can see here:

Polling for United States presidential elections - Wikipedia

 

Judging from the link, the closest race (polling wise), was 2012 (Obama vs Romney). There were a couple of polling weeks late in the campaign where Romney was actually leading by one percentage point.  The final polls indicated Obama was up by one percentage point.

Judging by https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/, Harris has been leading by at least 2 percentage points since the beginning of August.  She currently sits at a 2.8% lead.

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

This is exactly how the people who rule the usa like to engineer the society. Half the population blames the other half for all the problems and nobody is accountable. Nothing important is discussed because of the constant false dialectic. 'Republicans' basically support the foreign policy and free market that jews like while 'democrats' provide the tolerance for degenerate and race mixing, which jews also like. Then we pretend to 'compromise' and jews get everything they want. There will never be socialized health care, and there will never be a country for white people. And everyone will blame the other party rather than the people who actually rule.

Jew need a date?

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Culture is downstream from law. Law is downstream from money

In no universe is culture downstream from law. Although law is sometimes downstream from money.

However you failed to answer the question

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Judging from the link, the closest race (polling wise), was 2012 (Obama vs Romney). There were a couple of polling weeks late in the campaign where Romney was actually leading by one percentage point.  The final polls indicated Obama was up by one percentage point.

Judging by https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/, Harris has been leading by at least 2 percentage points since the beginning of August.  She currently sits at a 2.8% lead.

 

that aggregator has never been very good. 

The most respected one is realclearpolling and she never manages to get more than 2 ahead. 

2024 National: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

here's a comparison between the obama campaign and the current one using them as a constant

From mid august

 

here's roughly the same timeslice for 2012

It's not even the spread, its that they don't move relative to each other. 

Trump goes up harris goes up. trump goes down harris goes down. For over a month now they've basically only moved closer or away from each other by less than 1 percent.  Basically i'd expect more variation just from the margin of error than we're seeing here. 

This is very close and very static. It's as if nobody's even thinking about the election or is willing to change their minds or reach a decision. It's like they're waiting for something and they havent' seen it yet. 

But there isn't really going to be anything else that's scheduled. The VP's will have a debate but i woudln't expect that to shift people much. 

It's an odd race  It reminds me of the 2015 election in canada. 

[NAME REMOVED]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

that aggregator has never been very good. 

The most respected one is realclearpolling and she never manages to get more than 2 ahead. 

2024 National: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

here's a comparison between the obama campaign and the current one using them as a constant

From mid august

 

here's roughly the same timeslice for 2012

It's not even the spread, its that they don't move relative to each other. 

Trump goes up harris goes up. trump goes down harris goes down. For over a month now they've basically only moved closer or away from each other by less than 1 percent.  Basically i'd expect more variation just from the margin of error than we're seeing here. 

This is very close and very static. It's as if nobody's even thinking about the election or is willing to change their minds or reach a decision. It's like they're waiting for something and they havent' seen it yet. 

But there isn't really going to be anything else that's scheduled. The VP's will have a debate but i woudln't expect that to shift people much. 

It's an odd race  It reminds me of the 2015 election in canada. 

Why does it remind you of the 2015 election in Canada?

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Why does it remind you of the 2015 election in Canada?

For the longest time the polls hardly moved. You had the liberals and dips more or less neck and neck and harper doing just slightly better than those two. It fluctuated within the margins of error but it was overall very flat.

It stayed that way until the french debate where mulcair made a mistake. Then he began to dip in the polls and everybody rushed to Justin as being the guy who could beat harper. But up to that point it was fairly stagnant nothing that happened seemed to change it much. We were joking that maybe the pollsters were broken and someone should give them a smak to jar them loose again. 

This is like that except even more surprising because so bloody much has happened.

Edited September 21, 2024 by CdnFox

[NAME REMOVED]

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

For the longest time the polls hardly moved. You had the liberals and dips more or less neck and neck and harper doing just slightly better than those two. It fluctuated within the margins of error but it was overall very flat.

It stayed that way until the french debate where mulcair made a mistake. Then he began to dip in the polls and everybody rushed to Justin as being the guy who could beat harper. But up to that point it was fairly stagnant nothing that happened seemed to change it much. We were joking that maybe the pollsters were broken and someone should give them a smak to jar them loose again. 

This is like that except even more surprising because so bloody much has happened.

Do you love me?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Do you love me?

Kid, for the last time: I'm genuinely sorry your father left before you were born and your mother isn't sure who it is, but it's not me. But I'm sure he would be very proud of you when he was sober.

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, Hodad said:

There are charges, dummy. That's what an indictment means.

When was Trump charged with insurrection? I must have missed that.

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

When was Trump charged with insurrection? I must have missed that.

We've been over this multiple times. He was charged with smarter charges related to his crimes that are easier to prove (no need to litigate the definition of the word) and carry stiffer penalities. 

[Nationalist]

55 minutes ago, Hodad said:

We've been over this multiple times. He was charged with smarter charges related to his crimes that are easier to prove (no need to litigate the definition of the word) and carry stiffer penalities. 

Yet fell on their faces and will again...ok. Yet not one insurrection charge.

So...more lawfare. Gotit.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

We've been over this multiple times. He was charged with smarter charges related to his crimes that are easier to prove (no need to litigate the definition of the word) and carry stiffer penalities. 

So not charged with insurrection ever.

Here's the thing sparky. The way the law works is that whoever is making an accusation charges the other party with every single possible charge. They don't worry about which charges are easier or harder they charge every single thing that is reasonably possible to charge. Then they sort it out later and see what sticks

So your argument is ignorant. It shows a complete and utter lack of understanding of how the law works. If they possibly could have charged him with it, they would have along with any other charge they could.

So what we know for a fact is they felt there was no possible way to charge Donald Trump with insurrection. You lose