Tightest Race Ever - despite ALL the insane goings on Harris and Trump are still within a hair's breath of each other. How is this happening?

[CdnFox]

So according to the latest polls looking at the swing States Harris and Trump are so close you'd have a difficult time slipping a barbecued cat hair between them.

They are very well within the margin of errors in the swing states and can only be said to be in an absolute tie. It could go either way so easily it's not funny.

So what this is going to come down to is the getting out the vote. Unless something changes the party who gets their vote out will win.

How is this possible? There has been more going on in this election than any I can remember. There's been debates, candidates have fallen by the wayside, no less than two assassination attempts, elderly men have gone senile, cats have been eaten, foghorn Leghorn accents have been used, conventions have been held featuring giant IUD's and free abortions,  Hulk Hogan has taken an active roll to mobilize the Hulksters and still the two candidates are within 2% of each other or less nationally and in the swing states it's basically a dead heat.

 

So what's going to break this? Are we just going to have an absolute tie right up to the election day? There's no more debates except for the vice presidents, harris obviously isn't going to do any more interviews, trump may very well get shot at again but obviously it doesn't change the numbers, what's going to break this deadlock?

Honestly as I have said before I believe that trump has the advantage in a long game but it's amazing to watch how flat the poles are no matter what happens.

 

(also side prediction, the next attempt on trump will be a drone which will be able to get close enough because it's got an ' eat at Joe's" banner behind it ) 

[WestCanMan]

Polls are BS imo.

All the Dems and their MSM really have to say in favour of Kamala are:

1. All of the beliefs that she had for her entire life just changed in June
2. She has learned so much from her failures that she can probably do as well as Trump already did for 4 years
3. She will eventually have some clear policy positions to talk about
4. Everyone loves her and everyone hates Trump 
5. The polls are showing that she has momentum

Honestly, what's really there to hang one's hat on aside from polling? If the polls had Trump up by 20% in every state it would make sense. 

[robosmith]

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Polls are BS imo.

All the Dems and their MSM really have to say in favour of Kamala are:

1. All of the beliefs that she had for her entire life just changed in June
2. She has learned so much from her failures that she can probably do as well as Trump already did for 4 years
3. She will eventually have some clear policy positions to talk about
4. Everyone loves her and everyone hates Trump 
5. The polls are showing that she has momentum

Honestly, what's really there to hang one's hat on aside from polling? If the polls had Trump up by 20% in every state it would make sense. 

Of course the polls matter dummy. It was the polls that caused the money to dry up and forced Joe to withdraw.

And now Harris is doing a lot better in the polls and getting tons of money. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Polls are BS imo.

All the Dems and their MSM really have to say in favour of Kamala are:

1. All of the beliefs that she had for her entire life just changed in June
2. She has learned so much from her failures that she can probably do as well as Trump already did for 4 years
3. She will eventually have some clear policy positions to talk about
4. Everyone loves her and everyone hates Trump 
5. The polls are showing that she has momentum

Honestly, what's really there to hang one's hat on aside from polling? If the polls had Trump up by 20% in every state it would make sense. 

Poles tend to be reasonably good indicators during an election cycle. Especially as it moves into September when people start really paying attention.

In most elections the polls are fairly mobile. You can chart the impact of various events and timelines and trends. But with this it's really weird. And we're just about out of events that are likely to change people's minds or let them make up their minds.

We have seen this kind of thing before in Canada and usually when this kind of thing happens what you see is a wild Breakaway at the very end. The poles stay fairly neck and neck with little movement and then suddenly at the end people will gel and come down on one side or another. I feel like that favors trump, but for an election that has had so many events it's really strange how flat things are

[CrakHoBarbie]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

If the polls had Trump up by 20% in every state it would make sense. 

I think a lot of folks think of donald as a traitor.

A danger to democracy. 

Donald hatched and implemented a plan to install fake electors in multiple states, for the sole purpose of having his vice president certify fraudulent electors.

This action would of circumvented the will of the people, disenfranchising millions of voters. 

And it would of effectively been a "soft" coup d'etat. 

So, yeah....

Donalds dirty and a traitor. 

Alot of folks recognize this. 

Edited September 20, 2024 by CrakHoBarbie

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I think a lot of folks think of donald as a traitor.

A danger to democracy. 

Donald hatched and implemented a plan to install fake electors in multiple states, for the sole purpose of having his vice president certify fraudulent electors.

This action would of circumvented the will of the people, disenfranchising millions of voters. 

And it would of effectively been a "soft" coup d'etat. 

So, yeah....

Donalds dirty and a traitor. 

Alot of folks recognize this. 

The voices in your head aren't "a lot of folks".   well.... i mean there's a fair number butnone of them can vote anyway.

And a lot of people recognize that the dems weaponized the courts to try to suppress their political opponent as if this was a third rate Banana Republic and that peeves a lot of people as well. 

But none of that explains why the race is so close 

[CrakHoBarbie]

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The voices in your head aren't "a lot of folks".   well.... i mean there's a fair number butnone of them can vote anyway.

And a lot of people recognize that the dems weaponized the courts to try to suppress their political opponent as if this was a third rate Banana Republic and that peeves a lot of people as well. 

But none of that explains why the race is so close 

I notice you didn't deny donalds a traitor because of his fake electors scheme.

Yall know he's dirty.

You just don't care.

'Cause yall are dirty too.

Donalds a traitorous piece of shit as are all of his halfwitted sycophants. 

And when he loses to a black woman, it will be directly attributable to donald being a traitorous piece of shit.

 

Edited September 20, 2024 by CrakHoBarbie

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I notice you didn't deny donalds a traitor because of his fake electors scheme.

Yall know he's dirty.

You just don't care.

'Cause yall are dirty too.

Donalds a traitorous piece of shit as are all of his halfwitted sycophants. 

And when he loses to a black woman, it will be directly attributable to donald being a traitorous piece of shit.

 

Says a Crack ho...

Anyway...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/election-day-vote-take-long-count-ballots-rcna56097

https://www.vox.com/21417179/election-2020-vote-count-results-when

Sound familiar?

 

[gatomontes99]

If it is so close, why is Donald campaigning in NYC? Their internal polling must show something.

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Polls are BS imo.

All the Dems and their MSM really have to say in favour of Kamala are:

1. All of the beliefs that she had for her entire life just changed in June
2. She has learned so much from her failures that she can probably do as well as Trump already did for 4 years
3. She will eventually have some clear policy positions to talk about
4. Everyone loves her and everyone hates Trump 
5. The polls are showing that she has momentum

Honestly, what's really there to hang one's hat on aside from polling? If the polls had Trump up by 20% in every state it would make sense. 

6. She never attempted a coup to overthrow democracy. That's a major differentiator. 

[gatomontes99]

29 minutes ago, Hodad said:

6. She never attempted a coup to overthrow democracy. That's a major differentiator. 

Bullspit. She completed a coup when she, Obama and Hillary forced out Joe and installed her without any voter input.

[Hodad]

8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Bullspit. She completed a coup when she, Obama and Hillary forced out Joe and installed her without any voter input.

Don't be stupid. Nobody had any power to "force" Biden out. There was no trickery or legal wrangling. The most they could do was to try to convince him that it was the right thing to do. And reports are that Harris didn't even participate in making that argument--which is appropriate. 

Biden dropped out due to his own calculus--yes, influenced by others, but it was his decision, and the right decision. And when he did, anyone in the party could have campaigned to capture the delegate votes. Instead support coalesced around Harris and at the convention most of the delegates voted for her.

Not to mention that even if your nonsense was remotely tied to reality it would be a "coup" in the colloquial sense, not an illegal seizure of governmental power. Trump attempted an actual coup.

Edited September 20, 2024 by Hodad

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Don't be stupid. Nobody had any power to "force" Biden out. There was no trickery or legal wrangling. The most they could do was to try to convince him that it was the right thing to do. And reports are that Harris didn't even participate in making that argument--which is appropriate. 

Biden dropped out due to his own calculus--yes, influenced by others, but it was his decision, and the right decision. And when he did, anyone in the party could have campaigned to capture the delegate votes. Instead support coalesced around Harris and at the convention most of the delegates voted for her.

Not to mention that even if your nonsense was remotely tied to reality it would be a "coup" in the colloquial sense, not an illegal seizure of governmental power. Trump attempted an actual coup.

Gawd but you're naive.

 

[gatomontes99]

18 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Don't be stupid. Nobody had any power to "force" Biden out. There was no trickery or legal wrangling. The most they could do was to try to convince him that it was the right thing to do. And reports are that Harris didn't even participate in making that argument--which is appropriate. 

Biden dropped out due to his own calculus--yes, influenced by others, but it was his decision, and the right decision. And when he did, anyone in the party could have campaigned to capture the delegate votes. Instead support coalesced around Harris and at the convention most of the delegates voted for her.

Not to mention that even if your nonsense was remotely tied to reality it would be a "coup" in the colloquial sense, not an illegal seizure of governmental power. Trump attempted an actual coup.

Only in your fantasy world. Here in the real world, Biden was forced out. Do you need me to post the videos of Joe emphatically and defiantly insisting he would not quit?

Obama and Clinton know where Joe's skeletons are hidden. They certainly threatened to release those skeletons and put his family's liberty in question if Joe didn't drop out. The day Joe dropped out of the race, he became irrelevant and a lame duck. He lost his power.

As for Trump, he's never attempted a coup. He hasn't even done anything that Presidents and other politicians haven't done.

No. Harris is participating in an active coup.

[Hodad]

11 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Gawd but you're naive.

 

You conspiracy looks think everyone who doesn't believe the crazy conspiracy is naive. 

Meanwhile, back in reality, Biden is the President of the United States of America, absolutely at the end of his political career. He didn't need anything from anyone. Nobody had any leverage over him. He had nothing to lose but an election. He could have stubbornly held on for his own ego. Instead he make the selfless choice for the good of the country.

[Hodad]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Only in your fantasy world. Here in the real world, Biden was forced out. Do you need me to post the videos of Joe emphatically and defiantly insisting he would not quit?

Obama and Clinton know where Joe's skeletons are hidden. They certainly threatened to release those skeletons and put his family's liberty in question if Joe didn't drop out. The day Joe dropped out of the race, he became irrelevant and a lame duck. He lost his power.

As for Trump, he's never attempted a coup. He hasn't even done anything that Presidents and other politicians haven't done.

No. Harris is participating in an active coup.

Ah yes, the conspiracy theory kooks are out in force. The secret info conspiracy! Classic. 

And no, sorry, but Trump absolutely attempted a coup. No US president in history has ever attempted to have his VP throw out certified votes and unilaterally--and illegally--declare him the president elect after losing an election. Never. 

[gatomontes99]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Ah yes, the conspiracy theory kooks are out in force. The secret info conspiracy! Classic. 

And no, sorry, but Trump absolutely attempted a coup. No US president in history has ever attempted to have his VP throw out certified votes and unilaterally--and illegally--declare him the president elect after losing an election. Never. 

He didn't try to have him throw out the votes. Why do you have to lie to make your point?

Trump, (more accurately, his lawyers) asked Pence to suspend the certification to complete investigations into cheating.

[sharkman]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Polls are BS imo.

All the Dems and their MSM really have to say in favour of Kamala are:

1. All of the beliefs that she had for her entire life just changed in June
2. She has learned so much from her failures that she can probably do as well as Trump already did for 4 years
3. She will eventually have some clear policy positions to talk about
4. Everyone loves her and everyone hates Trump 
5. The polls are showing that she has momentum

Honestly, what's really there to hang one's hat on aside from polling? If the polls had Trump up by 20% in every state it would make sense. 

100% on your poll BS comment. And on Harris, she was also of Indian heritage her whole life until it became expedient to be black instead.  

[Hodad]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

He didn't try to have him throw out the votes. Why do you have to lie to make your point?

Trump, (more accurately, his lawyers) asked Pence to suspend the certification to complete investigations into cheating.

Yes, he absolutely did ask him to throw out the votes. And your lies won't change that. 

Quoting here step 3 of the Eastman coup plan which you can read for yourself. 

"At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. That means the total number of "electors appointed" – the language of the 12th Amendment – is 454. This reading of the 12th Amendment has also been advanced by Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. A "majority of the electors appointed" would therefore be 228. There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected."

 

There is no legal mechanism to "suspend the certification." That's just a load of crap. The "investigations" were completed and every state has certified their electoral votes. 

[Nationalist]

15 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Ah yes, the conspiracy theory kooks are out in force. The secret info conspiracy! Classic. 

And no, sorry, but Trump absolutely attempted a coup. No US president in history has ever attempted to have his VP throw out certified votes and unilaterally--and illegally--declare him the president elect after losing an election. Never. 

Ur an id1ot. Brandon had no intention of giving up. They were gonna declare him unfit had he not agreed to step aside. They also had plenty of time to re-run the proper primaries and let real Democracy function.

[Hodad]

7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ur an id1ot. Brandon had no intention of giving up. They were gonna declare him unfit had he not agreed to step aside. They also had plenty of time to re-run the proper primaries and let real Democracy function.

Oh, goody, another wild conspiracy theory that "they were gonna" based on your deep inside knowledge--for which there is no evidence, nor even a reasonable foundation. 👍

And I don't know if you own or know how to read a calendar, but no, there was no time for another primary campaign. 

Edited September 20, 2024 by Hodad

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Oh, goody, another wild conspiracy theory that "they were gonna" based on your deep inside knowledge--for which there is no evidence, nor even a reasonable foundation. 👍

And I don't know if you own or know how to read a calendar, but no, there was no time for another primary campaign. 

Oh goody...another blind goof who swallows everything the liars at the Demoncrat party feeds him.

Fool.

[Hodad]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Oh goody...another blind goof who swallows everything the liars at the Demoncrat party feeds him.

Fool.

This lizard people want what they want, and that leads to an eventual war with the extraterrestrials on their moon base. Of course they needed Biden to drop out of the race!🤪

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

This lizard people want what they want, and that leads to an eventual war with the extraterrestrials on their moon base. Of course they needed Biden to drop out of the race!🤪

Lol...such stupidity...such nativity. 

I've known and worked with numerous politicians and know they do not just step aside from power.

Politics is not the business of representing the electorate. It is the business of gathering power to one's self.

Don't be such a goof.

[CrakHoBarbie]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Says a Crack ho...

 

Powerful retort.