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Posted (edited)

Kind of obvious the man is stupid all the way down to his bones.

Assumes he can just "have" another countries waters, so ignorant he woouldn't even look at a map or learn dick about geography.
The Columbia River flows into the ocean at Astoria, is the northern boundary of Oregon State, not California.
No other BC river flows that far south.

Perhaps he can drill., drill. drill and install huge pumps to get it over the hills and mountains of Oregon and N California to get it to the agricultural part of the state.

Like how f*cking stupid can one be and still be considered a candidate for President?
 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Trump claims BC is a very large faucet.

 

BC has been experiencing its own drought.

Donnie, how about keeping the Nooksack waters from flowing across the border and flooding the Fraser Valley.

We don't generally have droughts because we don't get water, we generally have droughts due to lack of reservoir. The fact is is that British Columbia does have huge amounts of water that we're not actually tapping into.

So that isn't the problem with his statement. It is true that British Columbia has water.

So if he's nuts about anything it's that we're going to let him come up and get his grubby hands on it :) If we ever do I don't imagine he'll like the pricing

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted (edited)

River water levels have to be maintained to protect fisheries. Low water levels and high water temperatures are as great or greater threat to fish stocks than over fishing. This is one of the things supposed to be addressed by the current Columbia River Treaty.

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Posted
23 hours ago, CdnFox said:

We don't generally have droughts because we don't get water, we generally have droughts due to lack of reservoir

The reservoirs are low because it rains so much? Well that removed all doubt whatsoever. Keep speaking up.

 

5 hours ago, Aristides said:

This is one of the things supposed to be addressed by the current Columbia River Treaty.

Nechako River. Water levels are turned up and down like water from a tap. In support of BC's largest environmental disaster - Alcan, The Bands are taking over all the hatcheries as other govt's dragged their feet and closed many over the last couple decades.
Cuz you knoiw how it is, just not cost effective to save the fisheries.

Posted
Just now, herbie said:

The reservoirs are low because it rains so much? Well that removed all doubt whatsoever. Keep speaking up.

No. I can see that I'm going to have to explain this to you like a child again.

When it rains, the water doesn't just sit there on the land doing nothing. It drains away, it goes into rivers and streams and lakes and goes back to the ocean where it will one day evaporate again and become rain.

You with me so far? I haven't lost you yet?

In order to have water to use, we create reservoirs. These are places where the water can stay instead of going away and we can use it as we need to.

Unfortunately over time our population grows and so we use more water than we used to. If the reservoirs aren't changed to account for that we run out of water.

You see young man, actual rainfall has for the most part been going up

Change in Precipitation - Environmental Reporting BC (gov.bc.ca)

  • Province-wide annual average precipitation has increased by 12 percent per century. Annual average precipitation increases ranged from 10 to 21 percent per century across 8 ecoprovinces.There is no significant trend in annual average precipitation for the Northern Boreal Mountains ecoprovince.

Oh noes!!!  Rainfall has been going up!!!  Not down?!?!?

Here's some of that "drought" at work...

These graphics show just how much record-breaking rain hit southern B.C. recently | CBC News

Even better, most of the increased water we get happens in the summer and spring, where it would normally be drought season

BC has become wetter (22% increased precipitation) over the last century, with the greatest increases in precipitation occurring in summer and spring (50%), "

 

Why don't you try reading something before opening your mouth? Well we can have bad years just like anybody Overall we're actually getting more and more rain every year not less and less.

 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted

Well Mr Dumbshit there's a big reservoir at Site C that's filling up right now. And won't help water California in the least.
MOF you just made a long rant proving what you previously said was nonsense while thinking you're defending the statement. Can't read your own posts?

The thread is about Trump once again proving he's the stupidest man on Earth, keep defending him or you will be.

Posted
4 hours ago, herbie said:

Well Mr Dumbshit there's a big reservoir at Site C that's filling up right now.

Uhhhh - that's not a drinking or irrigation water supply, that's a hydro one.  Sooooo not really what we're talking about. :) 

I'm a little shocked i'd have to explain teh difference. 

 

But wait!!! HOw could it possibly be FILLING UP when there's such SEVERE DROUGHT!?!?!?!!?  (must be aliens!!!) 

4 hours ago, herbie said:

MOF you just made a long rant proving what you previously said was nonsense while thinking you're defending the statement. Can't read your own posts?

I assume you are having another conversation with your mirror :) I've always said we had water

4 hours ago, herbie said:

The thread is about Trump once again proving he's the stupidest man on Earth,

Not while you're living he isn't :) 

It's not a question of whether or not we have water. We have water. The question would be whether or not we want orange man up here trying to grab it. If I were him I wouldn't bet on it.

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted (edited)
18 hours ago, herbie said:

Well Mr Dumbshit there's a big reservoir at Site C that's filling up right now. And won't help water California in the least.
MOF you just made a long rant proving what you previously said was nonsense while thinking you're defending the statement. Can't read your own posts?

The thread is about Trump once again proving he's the stupidest man on Earth, keep defending him or you will be.

The Peace flows into the Mackenzie which flows into the Arctic Ocean.

 

On 9/20/2024 at 3:09 PM, CdnFox said:

No. I can see that I'm going to have to explain this to you like a child again.

When it rains, the water doesn't just sit there on the land doing nothing. It drains away, it goes into rivers and streams and lakes and goes back to the ocean where it will one day evaporate again and become rain.

You with me so far? I haven't lost you yet?

In order to have water to use, we create reservoirs. These are places where the water can stay instead of going away and we can use it as we need to.

Unfortunately over time our population grows and so we use more water than we used to. If the reservoirs aren't changed to account for that we run out of water.

You see young man, actual rainfall has for the most part been going up

Change in Precipitation - Environmental Reporting BC (gov.bc.ca)

  • Province-wide annual average precipitation has increased by 12 percent per century. Annual average precipitation increases ranged from 10 to 21 percent per century across 8 ecoprovinces.There is no significant trend in annual average precipitation for the Northern Boreal Mountains ecoprovince.

Oh noes!!!  Rainfall has been going up!!!  Not down?!?!?

Here's some of that "drought" at work...

These graphics show just how much record-breaking rain hit southern B.C. recently | CBC News

Even better, most of the increased water we get happens in the summer and spring, where it would normally be drought season

BC has become wetter (22% increased precipitation) over the last century, with the greatest increases in precipitation occurring in summer and spring (50%), "

 

Why don't you try reading something before opening your mouth? Well we can have bad years just like anybody Overall we're actually getting more and more rain every year not less and less.

 

The BC snow pack was 60% of normal last winter. Cherry picking a few days in November almost three years ago is just ignorant. As I pointed out before, most of the water that flooded the Fraser River came from the US side of the border.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Aristides said:

The Peace flows into the Mackenzie which flows into the Arctic Ocean.

 

The BC snow pack was 60% of normal last winter. Cherry picking a few days in November almost three years ago is just ignorant.

You literally just cherry picked a stat, and then tried to say it was ignorant to cherry pick a stat. 

It would probably help your case if you didn't start off sounding like such an absolute hypocrite. And I noticed that you ignored all of the stuff I posted which showed that for the last hundred years we've been getting wetter and wetter. Perhaps you're going to argue next that I cherry picked the century? 

Nobody expects you of all people to be making intelligence statements, but if you could try and avoid making absolutely ignorant ones that would be really great.

 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted

How's about we stick to the point. Rivers aren't plumbing that you turn on and off and redirect without causing massive ecological damage. Grade Threes know this. And the cost is weighed.
International rivers are a whole other level of complexity where even if you will accept the damage done in your country, the other country may not accept the damage you create upstream. And the Columbia is where we learned anout all these side effects,

The whole idea was an extremely simple mind speculating and pretending it is common sense because of the narrow business lens he can't see outside of. There's a resource, therefore it must be exploited. That idea is not being exploited, therefore it can't possibly be a resource so dismiss it.

Posted
36 minutes ago, herbie said:

How's about we stick to the point. Rivers aren't plumbing that you turn on and off and redirect without causing massive ecological damage. Grade Threes know this. And the cost is weighed.

So your point is that there's lots of water but we probably don't want trump coming up here and getting his grubby hands on it?

Who exactly did you think was arguing against this? :) 

 

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International rivers are a whole other level of complexity where even if you will accept the damage done in your country, the other country may not accept the damage you create upstream. And the Columbia is where we learned anout all these side effects,

Well the other country in this case would be the us, so presumably if they're the ones wanting the water they'd be ok with that. 

Quote

The whole idea was an extremely simple mind speculating and pretending it is common sense because of the narrow business lens he can't see outside of.

No that was your idea and it really is a variant of 'orange man bad". 

There is water, we could provide more to the states, That's true.  We probably don't want to and wouldn't be interested. That is also true.  He thinks he can negotiate a deal, probably not. 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You literally just cherry picked a stat, and then tried to say it was ignorant to cherry pick a stat. 

It would probably help your case if you didn't start off sounding like such an absolute hypocrite. And I noticed that you ignored all of the stuff I posted which showed that for the last hundred years we've been getting wetter and wetter. Perhaps you're going to argue next that I cherry picked the century? 

Nobody expects you of all people to be making intelligence statements, but if you could try and avoid making absolutely ignorant ones that would be really great.

 

I picked a year, you picked three days. Without a snowpack, the reservoirs don't fill. BC Hydro imported 20% of its power last year because there wasn't enough water in the reservoirs. And you were the guy calling me a liar because I disagreed with your claim that run of river would solve all the provinces power problems.

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Posted
On 9/23/2024 at 8:24 AM, Aristides said:

I picked a year, you picked three days.....

.... and a century. I showed we'd been getting steadily wetter for more than a century.  And mentioned 3 days in that century as well. 

And you were the guy who lied that we couldn't build any more dams on any rivers with dams because we need hundreds of miles behind a dam for water to collect while we were discussing a dam being built 23 miles  ahead of an existing one. 

That wasnt' a conversation where you came across looking very good kiddo. 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
On 9/22/2024 at 11:23 PM, herbie said:

How's about we stick to the point.

I don't think his IQ goes that high.

Posted
30 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

I don't think his IQ goes that high.

LOL  are you taking a page out of the other leftard's playbook and following me around like an angry puppy because you got your ass handed to you in another thread?  Holy shit kid :)  

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

are you taking a page out of the other leftard's playbook

You insult, but can't debate.

Posted
On 9/21/2024 at 5:16 PM, herbie said:

Well Mr Dumbshit there's a big reservoir at Site C that's filling up right now. And won't help water California in the least.
MOF you just made a long rant proving what you previously said was nonsense while thinking you're defending the statement. Can't read your own posts?

The thread is about Trump once again proving he's the stupidest man on Earth, keep defending him or you will be.

Amazing how often he ends up arguing against his own points during a conversation 

Posted
9 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

You insult, but can't debate.

Says the guy who lost a debate in another thread and is now dropping in every thread he can find to insult me :)  LOLOL

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
On 9/21/2024 at 2:16 PM, herbie said:

Well Mr Dumbshit there's a big reservoir at Site C that's filling up right now. And won't help water California in the least.

It'll barely help us.

But even at full output, Site C will only satisfy a portion of B.C.'s near-future electricity needs, with demand expected to increase by 15 per cent or more by 2030, mostly due to population growth.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/site-c-hydro-projects-drought-1.7330201

And it also makes for lousy drinking water so not much use to California either.

The district’s mayor said the community used to draw water from the Peace River with no issues, until the river was diverted for dam construction.

The municipality tried to drill wells, but the water was not drinkable due to high levels of contaminants.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10774549/hudsons-hope-water-site-c-dam/

The problem is population growth so the solution is fewer people. Here and probably California too.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

Posted
46 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It'll barely help us.

But even at full output, Site C will only satisfy a portion of B.C.'s near-future electricity needs, with demand expected to increase by 15 per cent or more by 2030, mostly due to population growth.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/site-c-hydro-projects-drought-1.7330201

And it also makes for lousy drinking water so not much use to California either.

The district’s mayor said the community used to draw water from the Peace River with no issues, until the river was diverted for dam construction.

The municipality tried to drill wells, but the water was not drinkable due to high levels of contaminants.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10774549/hudsons-hope-water-site-c-dam/

The problem is population growth so the solution is fewer people. Here and probably California too.

It's big help is supposed to be in the winter. In the summer there's alternative energy options and we actually have quite a bit of power but in the winter it doesn't, so the idea is to use it to store water for the heavy use winter seasons to get us through.  It helps us a great deal, it's just meant to help at a specific time of year. 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

who lost a debate

Your opinion. Can't prove it other than you feeling you did.

Posted (edited)
49 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Your opinion. Can't prove it other than you feeling you did.

Sure i can.  The winner doesn't go back and take the time to DELETE SEVEN PAGES of posts he made :) 

And he doesn't foollow the other guy around to every other post the guys' made on the site and randomly attack him, thus demonstrating his severe butt hurtedness :)  

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Had better start running."

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