Zuckerberg admits censorship.

[User]

17 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You seem to have trouble with comprehension.  I've replied repeatedly to you that I believe they should ALL be re-researched by independent, not Pharma-paid-for labs and scientists.

I believe this is urgent, due to the massive amount of corruption in the industry and the desperation in their attempts to cover things up.

So, you think every vaccine on the schedule today is dangerous and only there / approved because of corruption? 

And this is where you tell me you are not anti-vaccine... right? LOL

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I disagree.  You seem to be nothing more than a shill for Big Pharma and reject any information that contradicts your already decided upon views.

You won't give me any information to reject. You offer little more than vague generalizations. 

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, User said:

I am trying to seek the truth behind the surface. 

Haha, no. You're not.

Not when your "sources" are all MSM, which have admitted was highly censored and they spun everything to deceive the public.

[User]

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Haha, no. You're not.

Not when your "sources" are all MSM, which have admitted was highly censored and they spun everything to deceive the public.

So, now you are playing the vague game of dismissing all my sources without explaining why or what specifically was wrong. 

 

[Goddess]

Just now, User said:

You won't give me any information to reject.

Yes or No question: 

Would you ever in a million years read "The Real Anthony Fauci" or Celia Farber's book on Fauci and AIDS or anything by Charles Ortleb, who has many books on the corruption in the Pharma industry?

There's tons of books out there for YOU to inform yourself on, IF YOU CHOSE TO DO SO.

You don't' need me to sum everything up into a 2 sentence soundbite for you.  Get off your arse.

[User]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Yes or No question: 

Would you ever in a million years read "The Real Anthony Fauci" or Celia Farber's book on Fauci and AIDS or anything by Charles Ortleb, who has many books on the corruption in the Pharma industry?

There's tons of books out there for YOU to inform yourself on, IF YOU CHOSE TO DO SO.

You don't' need me to sum everything up into a 2 sentence soundbite for you.  Get off your arse.

I am not asking you to educate me here as much as I am asking you to offer even a bare defense of what you assert. 

Its funny how you have all this time to spam the forum with these claims, but when asked to support them... now you don't have the time. 

I have a long list of books to read. Anything on Fauci is going to be years away. I am not here defending him anyhow... 

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, User said:

I have a long list of books to read. Anything on Fauci is going to be years away. I am not here defending him anyhow... 

Ok.  And that's fine.

But since you refuse to look at any information that doesn't worship Fauci or Big Pharma and only rely on MSM for information, then what do we really have to discuss?

I mean, I posted soooooo many studies showing the incidence of myocarditis long before Big Pharma would even admit it was a problem - in fact, they denied it.  Until they couldn't any more.

When people believe MSM headlines over medical studies, I mean....where do I go from there?

Edited September 5, 2024 by Goddess

[Goddess]

At the very least you should read RFK Jr.'s book on Fauci.

It is extremely well documented, you can check all the references yourself.  He's offered money to anyone who finds a falsehood.  No takers so far.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

But since you refuse to look at any information that doesn't worship Fauci or Big Pharma and only rely on MSM for information, then what do we really have to discuss?

That is not what I said. I don't worship Fauci, I think he is a liar and told one of the worst most damning lies of my lifetime. 

Well, you can start with answering any of my specific questions... that is what is left to discuss. 

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I mean, I posted soooooo many studies showing the incidence of myocarditis long before Big Pharma would even admit it was a problem - in fact, they denied it.  

You seem to have a very particular bent against the pandemic response and the COVID vaccine... but your arguments go farther than that.
 

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

When people believe MSM headlines over medical studies, I mean....where do I go from there?

You could start by directly engaging with me... offering specifics. 

I just tore apart your silly post on NYC pandemic stuff. 

 

[robosmith]

On 8/27/2024 at 12:49 PM, gatomontes99 said:

We arent relitigating that. It has been fully discredited. If you don't knownthat by now, it is willful ignorance.

AKA, you've got BUPKIS.

[robosmith]

On 8/27/2024 at 1:04 PM, Goddess said:

Your team is the one advocating an experimental medical procedure that don't prevent transmission or infection for an illness with a +99% survival rate.

It's on you guys to prove they're safe.

 

No vaccine "prevents infection." it ONLY gives your immune system a jump start in fighting it.

If your immune system is shot, a vaccine can do nothing to help you.

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

AKA, you've got BUPKIS.

Willful ignorance.

[User]

8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

At the very least you should read RFK Jr.'s book on Fauci.

It is extremely well documented, you can check all the references yourself.  He's offered money to anyone who finds a falsehood.  No takers so far.

Looks like a bunch of folks have reviewed the book and pointed out its flaws. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Anthony_Fauci

[WestCanMan]

29 minutes ago, User said:

So, you think every vaccine on the schedule today is dangerous and only there / approved because of corruption? 

And this is where you tell me you are not anti-vaccine... right? LOL

You won't give me any information to reject. You offer little more than vague generalizations. 

Knowing what we now know about big pharma corruption, they definitely can't be trusted. 

Between the addictive opioids and the bogus covid jabs, they've pushed hundreds of billions of dollars worth of bogus drugs on the unsuspecting populace.

This like Bernie Madoff injecting his financial advice into the veins of our children.

[Goddess]

11 minutes ago, User said:

I just tore apart your silly post on NYC pandemic stuff. 

I guess we'll see how accurate your MSM headlines are when Cuomo is hauled in front of Congress later this month.

You don't think there's a reason why that's being done?  Could it be because what was reported in the MSM is being found to be the opposite of data and records?

[User]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I guess we'll see how accurate your MSM headlines are when Cuomo is hauled in front of Congress later this month.

You don't think there's a reason why that's being done?  Could it be because what was reported in the MSM is being found to be the opposite of data and records?

You don't have to see anything... I gave you rebuttal arguments with supporting evidence. You tried to claim something as silly as the MSM not reporting on other hospitals... but now you claim my showing you they did is an MSM source you will ignore?

You put forth bogus information and bogus assertions and then run from criticism. 

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, User said:

Looks like a bunch of folks have reviewed the book and pointed out its flaws. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Anthony_Fauci

Do you ever check your sources?

Wikipedia's 20, but how credible is it? – DW – 01/14/2021

 

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Politicians manipulating Wikipedia?

Several cases of politicians editing the entries about them have been reported.

 

The Hunt for Wikipedia's Disinformation Moles | WIRED

Some researchers believe that Wikipedia could be an overlooked venue for information warfare, and they have been developing technologies and methods similar to the ones used on Facebook and Twitter to uncover it. A team from the UK-based Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD) and the Centre for the Analysis of Social Media (CASM Technology) published a paper today exploring how to uncover disinformation on Wikipedia. They also believe that the data mapping may have uncovered a strategy that states could use to introduce disinformation. The trick, they say, is playing the long and subtle game.

What’s Wrong with Wikipedia? | Harvard Guide to Using Sources

Nevertheless, when you're doing academic research, you should be extremely cautious about using Wikipedia. As its own disclaimer states, information on Wikipedia is contributed by anyone who wants to post material, and the expertise of the posters is not taken into consideration. Users may be reading information that is outdated or that has been posted by someone who is not an expert in the field —or by someone who wishes to provide misinformation. While Wikipedia editors do correct misinformation, observers have found that they don’t catch everything—at least not right away.

Sometimes inaccurate information is posted to Wikipedia on purpose, as a hoax. In some well-documented cases, this inaccurate information continues to spread when people take it from Wikipedia and use it in books and articles.

2 minutes ago, User said:

I gave you rebuttal arguments with supporting evidence.

You gave MSM headlines.

I've seen the data and stats.  It's why Congress is investigating.

i see you are a person who believes whatever is in MSM.  That's a shame.

[User]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Knowing what we now know about big pharma corruption, they definitely can't be trusted. 

Between the addictive opioids and the bogus covid jabs, they've pushed hundreds of billions of dollars worth of bogus drugs on the unsuspecting populace.

This like Bernie Madoff injecting his financial advice into the veins of our children.

What does this even mean?

So... you go into a hospital because your appendix needs removed. No medication for you? You going to do the surgery wide awake?

 

[Goddess]

This is the problem every time with vax fanatics - without even reading the book, you dismiss it out of hand, as unworthy of any attention because an MSM article or Wiki tells you to. 

Reject any medical studies, not because you've sourced the scientists or read the study to check for flaws in the methodology or researched what other scientists are saying about it, but only because it disagree with your opinions and the MSM headlines.

And then you claim to want truth.

You don't.  You want to be a sheep.  You want to be told what to think and believe.  I get it - that's so much easier than learning critical thinking.

[User]

11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This is the problem every time with vax fanatics - without even reading the book, you dismiss it out of hand, as unworthy of any attention because an MSM article or Wiki tells you to. 

Its funny how you get so upset about even the slightest hint you are an anti-vaxxer, even though I never said that... but you have no problems throwing around "vax fanatic" to label others. 

No, you made a dumb argument implying the book was 100% factual and no one had proven anything wrong in it yet. 

All I did was point out that there is a list of folks who have done just that. I did not dismiss the book out of hand. 

13 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Reject any medical studies, not because you've sourced the scientists or read the study to check for flaws in the methodology or researched what other scientists are saying about it, but only because it disagree with your opinions and the MSM headlines.

I have yet to reject any medical study here with you in any discussion we have had. 

You are the one rejecting the countless studies on vaccine safety. 

I have repeatedly asked you specific pointed questions, you run away. 

14 minutes ago, Goddess said:

And then you claim to want truth.

You don't.  You want to be a sheep.  You want to be told what to think and believe.  I get it - that's so much easier than learning critical thinking.

Well, I would like for you to be honest enough to defend your bogus assertions... but you choose not to. 

Instead, you call me names and run away. 

If you were interested in critical thinking, you would actually engage directly. 

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, User said:

If you were interested in critical thinking, you would actually engage directly. 

🙄

Ya, OK, Mr. Critical Thinker Who Only Believes MSM Headlines.

I'll get right on that.

[Goddess]

11 minutes ago, User said:

All I did was point out that there is a list of folks who have done just that.

Did you check out those claims?  Compare them to the references in the book? 

Wow, you're really fast, that only took you what?  About 3 minutes to check that all out?

Seriously, you're lazy.  You don't want truth.  You want to be told what to think and believe.

[Goddess]

How do I engage with this level of laziness?

I mean you quickly google a Wiki article that says what you want it to say and then think I'm the person who has to verify Wiki is correct.

No, dumbass.  You referenced Wiki. YOU check it out.  YOU verify your sources.

I'm sick to death of this intellectual laziness - quickly googling an opposing view and strutting around like "AHA! I got you!"

FFS  It's either stupid or lazy.

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, User said:

What does this even mean?

So... you go into a hospital because your appendix needs removed. No medication for you? You going to do the surgery wide awake?

This means that Big Pharma was able to lie about the addictive nature of their opioids to the extent that it killed thousands of people. Then basically nothing happened to those responsible.

This means that Big Pharma was able to lie about the safety and efficacy of their covid jabs, what's more, they didn't even have to do most of the lying themselves because their shills at NEJoM, Lancet, the MSM, social media, the NiH, etc did most of the heavy lifting for them. 

This means that the established safety measures are all BS. They're there to placate you and help convince you, not for your protection. 

I'm asking you honestly if you feel like you'd trust Bernie Madoff to give you financial advice. And if the answer is no, then why would you trust Big Pharma, the NiH, FDA etc? 

[impartialobserver]

@User

Appendix is not the best example. Yes, you will get an anesthetic to knock you out. The pain afterwards is not in most people terrible enough to warrant opioids. I know.. I had a ruptured appendix and almost died. The better example is severe back pain. Something that mostly does not go away once you have hurt it. This is why Oxycontin was dispensed mostly through clinics and specialists at first. 

[Goddess]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm asking you honestly if you feel like you'd trust Bernie Madoff to give you financial advice. And if the answer is no, then why would you trust Big Pharma, the NiH, FDA etc? 

I can't believe I'm required to explain to these people why Wikipedia and MSM headlines are not better than actual independent, non-Pharma-funded medical studies and real life datasets.

But here we are. 🙄

Edited September 5, 2024 by Goddess