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[User]

22 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Not as much as society has paid for the opiod crisis.

Surprised you defend them.  Have you seen what's happening on the streets?

Where do you get that I defend them?

I merely pointed out a fact, as you and WestCanMan love to exaggerate (or outright lie)

[User]

21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You need to go stroke eyeball, ExFlyer, Hodad and a few of the other 'winners' who carried that torch before you. 

Say things like: "After we vaxed 86% of the populations, covid spread far faster than ever before, resulting in several times as many infections, and resulting in far more deaths than ever before, but CFR was down so the vaccines are a success!"

You are not arguing with me, you might as well go talk to yourself in notepad at this point. 

I told you want my argument was here, but all you have is the DURRRRR COVID DURRRRR Hammer and everything is your nail. 

When you stub your toe, do you curse "Big Pharma!" and the Covid vaccine?

23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Get up to speed, buddy. You're not even on P1 yet.

Get up to speed on what? You are just as bad as Goddess and ignored what I said. 

[impartialobserver]

12 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Same thing.

Read up on the current studies on SSRI's.

not all prescription drug decisions are life and death. Again, it comes down to a degree of trust versus simply enduring. My daughter takes a drug for asthma. Would she live without it? Yes. Not all prescription drugs are bad or nefarious. 

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, User said:

Where do you get that I defend them?

I merely pointed out a fact, as you and WestCanMan love to exaggerate (or outright lie)

He said no one at Purdue went to jail after killing thousands of people and addicting millions more.

You said they paid with a fine, like that makes it all okay.

Where was the lie or exaggeration?

[User]

36 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Can you count?  Or do you need help with that, too?  Do understand that 28-30 is a higher number than 3 or 15?  Do you need that explained to you?

I can count just fine, apparently you can't. You seem to be counting each injection when they combine vaccines. 

The link you provided from Denmark = 11 different Vaccines given several different times. 

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

He said no one at Purdue went to jail after killing thousands of people and addicting millions more.

You said they paid with a fine, like that makes it all okay.

Where was the lie or exaggeration?

No, he contrasted it with saying: "Big Auto eventually pays for their mistakes. "

Hence my saying... so did Purdue. 

 

[WestCanMan]

52 minutes ago, User said:

Looks like they paid as well

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-global-resolution-criminal-and-civil-investigations-opioid

Is there a dollar value on murder now? 

How much money would you want from the Sackler family in exchange fro the life of your daughter? Son? Father? 

[Goddess]

If anyone is interested in what's going on the world of SSRI research, (I've only looked at studies and research in a cursory sense):

US school shootings.  Most agree it has to involve more than just access to guns and researchers have been trying to find commonalities between the shooters.

They found almost all of these young people were on SSRI anti-depressants.

SSRI's have as side effects:  psychotic episodes, suicidal ideation, hallucinations and fits of violence and rage.

N. American doctors are incentivized money-wise to prescribing drugs, more so than European counterparts.

Are SSRI's a contributing factor to school shootings?

Can anyone give any good reasons why we should not investigate them as a potential cause?  What would happen to any scientists or researchers who suggest we should look into it?  How would Big Pharma react to those investigations, do you think?  Much like they do with coivd jabs or childhood jabs or any other criticism of their products?  They have to be dragged kicking and screaming.

Just thinking out loud here.  Which is forbidden, I know.

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, User said:

You seem to be counting each injection when they combine vaccines. 

Yes, I do.

Did you know that doctors recommend introducing various foods to babies, only in small quantities and only one food at a time to see if they have a reaction to it?  But we jab babies with as many as 5-7 different vaccines at a time (in 2 or 3 jabs at a time).

Yes, I know.   I'm a racist for asking that question. 🙄

[WestCanMan]

46 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Not to give you economics but prescription drugs are an example of low price elasticity of demand. Jack the price up and because of few (if any) options, you pay the higher price. Well, the point is that one has to have some trust or be willing to endure whatever ails you. 

You're talking about "drugs that actually work", which is kinda OT here.

[Goddess]

25 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

not all prescription drug decisions are life and death. Again, it comes down to a degree of trust versus simply enduring. My daughter takes a drug for asthma. Would she live without it? Yes. Not all prescription drugs are bad or nefarious. 

I never said they were.

[impartialobserver]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You're talking about "drugs that actually work", which is kinda OT here.

I am talking about any drug that you spend money on. the efficacy of the drug is secondary. This is the reason that prescription drug and gas prices get folks so worked up. The perceived lack of options and control. 

 

About Purdue Pharma, its my understanding that the only CRIMINAL (as opposed to civil) charges brought against them were fraud and kickback conspiracy. I can see why being found guilty of these would only result in fines. 

Edited September 5 by impartialobserver

[WestCanMan]

31 minutes ago, User said:

You are not arguing with me, you might as well go talk to yourself in notepad at this point. 

I told you want my argument was here, but all you have is the DURRRRR COVID DURRRRR Hammer and everything is your nail. 

When you stub your toe, do you curse "Big Pharma!" and the Covid vaccine?

I'm saying that you're defending the indefensible. There's no debate to be had here. "The conspiracy theorists won the covid vax debate", remember? 

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Get up to speed on what? You are just as bad as Goddess and ignored what I said. 

Goddess isn't saying anything wrong. I already told you that it's not deceitful to paint big pharma - in general - as untrustworthy. 

It's not even their own fault that they're not trustworthy, because the gov't, bureaucracies and MSM let them get away with it. 

If you look at the length and breadth of the covid vax scandal, it's clear that big pharma runs the show here. 

[User]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm saying that you're defending the indefensible. There's no debate to be had here. "The conspiracy theorists won the covid vax debate", remember? 

What is it you think I am defending here exactly?

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Goddess isn't saying anything wrong.

Yes, Goddess certainly was wrong regarding the vaccine schedules and various points on the pandemic in NYC. 

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

Yes, I do.

Did you know that doctors recommend introducing various foods to babies, only in small quantities and only one food at a time to see if they have a reaction to it?  But we jab babies with as many as 5-7 different vaccines at a time (in 2 or 3 jabs at a time).

Yes, I know.   I'm a racist for asking that question. 🙄

Racist?

No, you were just making an incorrect point about the vaccine schedules and still have yet to respond to any of my other questions and challenges around what you said on that subject. 

[User]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Is there a dollar value on murder now? 

How much money would you want from the Sackler family in exchange fro the life of your daughter? Son? Father? 

Dude, I was merely correcting your insinuation that no one paid. Welcome to the life of liability in business vs criminality. 

 

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, User said:

What is it you think I am defending here exactly?

That Goddess is somehow wrong to start questioning all vaccines.

Big Pharma is not our friend. 

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Yes, Goddess certainly was wrong regarding the vaccine schedules and various points on the pandemic in NYC. 

I'll take Goddess's version of the pandemic in NYC over CNN's or CBC's.

You shoulda heard the leftards on this site regurgitating MSM talking points about covid. It would be disappointing to hear such stupid things repeated by a 7 year old. 

[User]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

That Goddess is somehow wrong to start questioning all vaccines.

Big Pharma is not our friend. 

Question... how? Making false statements about them is not questioning them. Drawing false doubts about them is not merely questioning them. 

See, this is why I ask you about not trusting any modern medicine, as you have now steered the discussion directly into being anti-vaccine, not just about the COVID vaccine, but all of them. 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I'll take Goddess's version of the pandemic in NYC over CNN's or CBC's.

There is only what is true and what is not true, what Goddess said was false. I pointed this out in several instances. It is not a matter of her over CNN... 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

You shoulda heard the leftards on this site regurgitating MSM talking points about covid. It would be disappointing to hear such stupid things repeated by a 7 year old. 

Well, you are not doing much better with all your vague "Big Pharma" stuff. 

[Goddess]

41 minutes ago, User said:

There is only what is true and what is not true, what Goddess said was false. I pointed this out in several instances. It is not a matter of her over CNN... 

Perhaps you missed my post where I provided links to the childhood schedules, which did prove what I was saying.  The US schedule is doubled or more what the schedule is in other countries.  It is not wrong, immoral, lying or deceptive to question WHY that is.  Especially when we are dealing with agencies that have long histories of fraud, okay'ing dangerous drugs and being years too slow in pulling them from the market.

Your CNN links from years ago are not matching up to the reality of what happened, which is WHY Congress is investigating.  The refusal to release death certificates or names of the 20,000 "dead from covid" is suspicious, another reason WHY Congress is looking into it.  Cuomo has already been caught lying and now he is being recalled to testify again.

So it really is - you taking the MSM narrative from years ago above what the reality was on the ground.

[Goddess]

12 hours ago, User said:

you were just making an incorrect point about the vaccine schedules

Again, if you need me to explain how 28-30 is MORE than 3 or 15.....I suppose I can do that for you.

[User]

12 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Again, if you need me to explain how 28-30 is MORE than 3 or 15.....I suppose I can do that for you.

No, what I need you to do is honestly add up the actual vaccines being given, not how many injections... unless your brilliant claim is that somehow it is a significant difference in getting the same vaccines, just some are given together in one injection?

Does that make one less dangerous and safer than the other?

 

[User]

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Perhaps you missed my post where I provided links to the childhood schedules, which did prove what I was saying.  The US schedule is doubled or more what the schedule is in other countries.

No, it is not, the actual vaccines given are not that much different, only how they are administered is. 

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It is not wrong, immoral, lying or deceptive to question WHY that is. 

You did not merely question why that is, you brought it up as a larger effort to show that there is something wrong there, you followed that up with several "questions" that were full of false assertions. 

19 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Especially when we are dealing with agencies that have long histories of fraud, okay'ing dangerous drugs and being years too slow in pulling them from the market.

Again, which vaccines do you think are dangerous drugs here? Name them. Which ones? Why are they dangerous?

You won't say. You are playing this dumb game of insinuating that vaccines are bad, but won't actually say it. Have the courage of your convictions actually to say what you believe here.

21 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Your CNN links

I did not only provide CNN links nor was that the bulk of the things you asserted that were bogus and wrong. You are playing the dishonest game of just dismissing the source again... at least I am providing them. Also, one of those CNN links was directly countering your absurd claim that no one covered the other hospitals... so obviously I provide a link showing they did... 
 

23 minutes ago, Goddess said:

So it really is - you taking the MSM narrative from years ago above what the reality was on the ground.

What is this "reality" you are asserting happened on the ground? 

 

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, User said:

No, what I need you to do is honestly add up the actual vaccines being given, not how many injections

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but I can tell you don't understand anaphylactic reactions/shock.

If a vaccine is given in 3 doses, a month apart, that = 3 injections, which increases the chance of anaphylactic shock each time.  It's not counted as "1 injection".  It's 3.

If you eat one apple at 1 pm, another apple at 2 pm, and another apple at 3 pm, you've eaten 3 apples, not 1.

4 minutes ago, User said:

the things you asserted that were bogus and wrong.

Then why do you think is Congress asking questions about it?  Just for shits & giggles?

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, User said:

What is this "reality" you are asserting happened on the ground? 

This has been explained to you multiple times now.

Stop pretending I'm an id1ot for questioning CNN reports when the US Congress  is asking the same questions.  Are they all id1ots, too?

If I'm wrong and immoral for asking why, is Congress also wrong and immoral?

Why are you so desperately against asking questions about what happened in NYC?

[User]

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but I can tell you don't understand anaphylactic reactions/shock.

If a vaccine is given in 3 doses, a month apart, that = 3 injections, which increases the chance of anaphylactic shock each time.  It's not counted as "1 injection".  It's 3.

If you eat one apple at 1 pm, another apple at 2 pm, and another apple at 3 pm, you've eaten 3 apples, not 1.

So, you are totally cool with all the vaccines on the schedule, as long as we reduce the number of injections?

Also... how many incidents of anaphylactic reactions and shock do you think there are in America as a result of vaccines that cause any serious harm or death?

The point is that you still only ate an apple and if you are here saying apples are dangerous... they don't become less dangerous if just insist on taking a bite of all 3 at the same time... 

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Then why do you think is Congress asking questions about it?  Just for shits & giggles?

A question is a question, it doesn't change the fact that you were wrong. 

 

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This has been explained to you multiple times now.

Stop pretending I'm an id1ot for questioning CNN reports when the US Congress  is asking the same questions.  Are they all id1ots, too?

If I'm wrong and immoral for asking why, is Congress also wrong and immoral?

Why are you so desperately against asking questions about what happened in NYC?

You are the one asserting some other reality here... no, you have not explained this to me at all. 

When you put false assertions in your questions, I do not think you are dumb, I think you are being dishonest. 

You are not on here just asking why. 

You just asserted there was some other reality. What was it?

You want to play this dumb game where you cast doubt through loaded questions and outright false statements but never have the courage to just say what you think. 

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, User said:

So, you are totally cool with all the vaccines on the schedule, as long as we reduce the number of injections?

Also... how many incidents of anaphylactic reactions and shock do you think there are in America as a result of vaccines that cause any serious harm or death?

The point is that you still only ate an apple and if you are here saying apples are dangerous... they don't become less dangerous if just insist on taking a bite of all 3 at the same time... 

This is utterly ridiculous.  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

15 minutes ago, User said:

When you put false assertions in your questions

The only proof you have that the assertions are false is CNN articles.

Clearly the assertions are NOT false, as Congress is investigating them and is requiring Cuomo to answer their questions.

What part of that is difficult for you to understand?

[User]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This is utterly ridiculous.  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

LOL, you made a bad argument, I refuted it and now you run away. 

Yet again, you refuse to answer a direct simple question about vaccines being safe or not. 

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The only proof you have that the assertions are false is CNN articles.

No, it was not. And again... when you assert that sources didn't cover something, showing you that they did is in fact still proving you wrong even if you don't like CNN. 

You can't engage honestly, all you can do is play this dumb game of dismissing the source. 

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Clearly the assertions are NOT false, as Congress is investigating them and is requiring Cuomo to answer their questions.

What part of that is difficult for you to understand?

The fact that Congress is asking questions doesn't make your false assertions true... 

This is basic logic, just like your stupid example with the apples.