User Posted August 26 Report Posted August 26 12 minutes ago, myata said: OK so all of this is already normal, for some. That much is clear. The question that remains is will it be the new normal for America, now? It just cannot be avoided or shrugged away you see. You appear to be able to shrug it away just fine when it suits you. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
WestCanMan Posted August 26 Report Posted August 26 20 minutes ago, User said: You appear to be able to shrug it away just fine when it suits you. These guys are pure cultists now. There's nothing left of them. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
myata Posted August 26 Author Report Posted August 26 It's not focused on one individual, not a fetish, nor evil incarnated. Defeating that project will not solve all problems by itself and automatically, quite obviously. But anyone who can think for themselves and make independent choices cannot avoid this conclusion: Electing this or even giving it significant support would legitimize; normalize and quite possibly, make standard all of the precedents he has made. He did it; it's a fact; and its rewarded. Next, what? Arguing this would be trying to defeat sanity. Pretending it's not there, a failure of responsibility. Reality won't go away and it comes back, always. Everyone is free to make their choices. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted August 26 Report Posted August 26 31 minutes ago, myata said: It's not focused on one individual, not a fetish, nor evil incarnated. Defeating that project will not solve all problems by itself and automatically, quite obviously. But anyone who can think for themselves and make independent choices cannot avoid this conclusion: Electing this or even giving it significant support would legitimize; normalize and quite possibly, make standard all of the precedents he has made. He did it; it's a fact; and its rewarded. Next, what? Arguing this would be trying to defeat sanity. Pretending it's not there, a failure of responsibility. Reality won't go away and it comes back, always. Everyone is free to make their choices. Dear diary... 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
myata Posted August 26 Author Report Posted August 26 And again, this choice cannot be avoided, just as the reality and sanity. If it's accepted and rewarded, then it would have to be the new normal, and standard. Why and how, not? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted August 26 Report Posted August 26 4 minutes ago, myata said: And again, this choice cannot be avoided, just as the reality and sanity. If it's accepted and rewarded, then it would have to be the new normal, and standard. Why and how, not? It is over there. It is on the wall. It is on the floor. It is all around us. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Hodad Posted August 26 Report Posted August 26 21 hours ago, CouchPotato said: And he just doesn't bother to respond to this. It's fiction. Quote
User Posted August 26 Report Posted August 26 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: It's fiction. Perhaps you should stop cowardly hiding from me and lets see you if you can actually put up a real argument and defend it. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
myata Posted August 26 Author Report Posted August 26 One of the parties created a terrible precedent here, and most staggering is that it just happened, without much reflection of the responsibility and consequences. Anyone can run for the president now. Mob boss with multiple convictions; crazy cult guru; a convicted psycho with online following, anyone: no limits, really. Wow. Founding fathers couldn't have imagined that in the wildest of dreams. A crazy totalitarian just said it randomly decades back. But who could have thought that we could be about to see it play out before our eyes? Astounding. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted August 26 Report Posted August 26 1 hour ago, myata said: One of the parties created a terrible precedent here, and most staggering is that it just happened, without much reflection of the responsibility and consequences. Anyone can run for the president now. Mob boss with multiple convictions; crazy cult guru; a convicted psycho with online following, anyone: no limits, really. Wow. Founding fathers couldn't have imagined that in the wildest of dreams. A crazy totalitarian just said it randomly decades back. But who could have thought that we could be about to see it play out before our eyes? Astounding. These "Fathers' of yours..... are they in the room with you right now? 1 Quote
suds Posted August 26 Report Posted August 26 3 hours ago, myata said: Anyone can run for the president now. Mob boss with multiple convictions; crazy cult guru; a convicted psycho with online following, anyone: no limits, really. As long as one is a natural born U.S. citizen over 35, been a U.S. resident for the last 14 years, and not done anything too naughty or been thrown out of office..... just about anybody can run. Ross Perot ran for President in 1992 as an independent and at one point was leading Bill Clinton and Bush (the elder) in the polls. Some believed he was an authoritarian (oh my gawd!!!) because of the way he ran his successful businesses. What are you so afraid of? Someone running for President who you don't approve of? Quote
CdnFox Posted August 27 Report Posted August 27 2 hours ago, suds said: As long as one is a natural born U.S. citizen over 35, been a U.S. resident for the last 14 years, and not done anything too naughty or been thrown out of office..... just about anybody can run. Ross Perot ran for President in 1992 as an independent and at one point was leading Bill Clinton and Bush (the elder) in the polls. Some believed he was an authoritarian (oh my gawd!!!) because of the way he ran his successful businesses. What are you so afraid of? Someone running for President who you don't approve of? I think he means that seeing as trump is a convicted felon any convicted felon can now run for office. He, like many on the left, seem to be very upset at the idea that the absolutely ludicrous and childish charges that were brought against trump clearly as a politically motivated stunt haven't somehow turned the entire population against him as they had hoped. And now he's angry that trump is even allowed to run considering his "Criminal" background What he hasn't realized is that in a democracy it is up to the public to decide who is or is not fit to run. The dems just want to be able to 'disqualify' anyone they like by faking up some charges and they can't. Quote
myata Posted August 27 Author Report Posted August 27 13 hours ago, suds said: What are you so afraid of? Someone running for President who you don't approve of? I'm not afraid of anything. But it's tested and verified over and again in history that democracy does not amount to the mob rule. You want the latter, go dancing in the dark after lying shamans singing you enchanting songs? Have your way. But happy end is never assured in those adventures. Of course you know. If a mob boss is elected in a free election it just may be the last one. Not sure? Itching to find it out again? As long as you're fully aware and will take full responsibility for the consequences. And by the way, the question still stands: how can one disagree with it, while supporting and rewarding it? Why wouldn't it be the new standard? Does it make any sense, in the sane world? Sanity is not a guarantee like democracy. It has to be kept, and maintained. So it's a responsibility too. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted August 27 Author Report Posted August 27 Democracy or the mob rule? Today, we can choose. Can the Idol be wrong? Can he be a criminal? There are no secrets here. And the choice is due now. "Philippines, Aug. 12 -- Police and Christian cultists clashed in the southern Philippines after authorities tried to arrest a member of the band, killing at least 20 people, police said today." Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted August 27 Report Posted August 27 26 minutes ago, myata said: Democracy or the mob rule? Today, we can choose. You can't even choose to speak English normally. Plus you're Canadian, so you won't be choosing in any way shape or form. Our election isn't for a year and change Quote
myata Posted August 27 Author Report Posted August 27 This sweet and innocent complacency is adorable that nothing much is happening it'll be as always but in the reality it is: we are changing the level and the rules of the political game. And most troubling, doing it without a back thought, implicitly. But it's not going anywhere and the precedents were made. I'm not predicting terrible outcomes right away, these things can't be predicted with certainty when and how and who. But would we be making it the new normal? Most certainly. How and why wouldn't we? And then it opens the gate to: - Elections that aren't recognized for months or years (Venezuela) - Court decisions that are ignored or deligitimized - Factions making claims of victory and refusing to recognize anything else - Violent ongoing protests and so on. Why wouldn't we be opening the door to it, once the precedents were made? What's there: real and factual, to stop it? My guess is, we may feel and know something but are reluctant maybe even afraid to admit it and so, grasp to an illusion, a belief that there's still something solid, that nothing could happen no matter what we do and choose. A frightened child's reaction. Except the reality doesn't work like that. Beliefs and illusions have zero cash value to it. And it will always catch up with the consequences of the choices we make. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted August 27 Report Posted August 27 28 minutes ago, myata said: This sweet and innocent complacency is adorable that nothing much is happening it'll be as always but in the reality it is: we are changing the level and the rules of the political game. And most troubling, doing it without a back thought, implicitly. But it's not going anywhere and the precedents were made. I'm not predicting terrible outcomes right away, these things can't be predicted with certainty when and how and who. But would we be making it the new normal? Most certainly. How and why wouldn't we? And then it opens the gate to: - Elections that aren't recognized for months or years (Venezuela) - Court decisions that are ignored or deligitimized - Factions making claims of victory and refusing to recognize anything else - Violent ongoing protests and so on. Why wouldn't we be opening the door to it, once the precedents were made? What's there: real and factual, to stop it? My guess is, we may feel and know something but are reluctant maybe even afraid to admit it and so, grasp to an illusion, a belief that there's still something solid, that nothing could happen no matter what we do and choose. A frightened child's reaction. Except the reality doesn't work like that. Beliefs and illusions have zero cash value to it. And it will always catch up with the consequences of the choices we make. spam spam spam spam.... Quote
Guest Posted August 27 Report Posted August 27 On 8/25/2024 at 7:13 AM, myata said: Mubuzuela I heard the Rum there, is second to none. Quote
myata Posted August 28 Author Report Posted August 28 (edited) Well, who could sum it better than in own words: "no Presidential Candidate, or Candidate for any Office, has ever had to put up with all of this Lawfare and Weaponization directly out of the Office of a Political Opponent” (Truth Social, on the new indictment for interference with the 2020 elections). A mob boss declaring himself a candidate should expect full immunity for anything ever committed. No way it's going anywhere. No way we could just shrug this off. The problems of the cult are two, and they are simple ones really. One is with the democracy. And the other, with the law. They don't understand it; despise it; and don't need it. And all of it is before our eyes. Edited August 28 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted August 28 Report Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, myata said: Well, who could sum it better than in own words: Well not you, that's for sure. Your words are gibberish Quote
myata Posted September 4 Author Report Posted September 4 People have different motives to show their opinion in the polls but at certain time not too far away that choice will matter and could have far-reaching consequences. No one can pretend they couldn't know what it's about. No one, with a grain of intelligent thought and responsibility can pretend that it's "just another election, like any other". There's nothing normal about one of the candidates: he is prolific, pathological liar with no, zero, non-existent regard for democracy and the rule of law. That never happened before. Nothing like "just another election". Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted September 4 Report Posted September 4 2 hours ago, myata said: There's nothing normal about one of the candidates: he is prolific, pathological liar with no, zero, non-existent regard for democracy and the rule of law. That never happened before. Nothing like "just another election". That's not true, Biden's out of the race. What you meant is SHE is prolific, pathological liar with no, zero, non-existent regard for democracy and the rule of law. 1 Quote
User Posted September 4 Report Posted September 4 4 hours ago, myata said: There's nothing normal about one of the candidates: he is prolific, pathological liar with no, zero, non-existent regard for democracy and the rule of law. That never happened before. Nothing like "just another election". Biden dropped out of the race... although, Harris is not much better. 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
myata Posted September 5 Author Report Posted September 5 Nothing like the reality, facts, objective truth exist for this herd as can be observed right here. History tells us very clearly what can happen when this sort of cults become eager and power hungry. We knew and we saw everything. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted September 5 Report Posted September 5 2 hours ago, myata said: Nothing like the reality, facts, objective truth exist for this herd as can be observed right here. History tells us very clearly what can happen when this sort of cults become eager and power hungry. We knew and we saw everything. Dear diary.... 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
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