Young Canadians left jobless amid influx of cheap foreign workers

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Fact is, the jobs out there are very much in line with Canadian labour laws and if not, please show how they are breaking the labour laws.

Fact is, some jobs pay exactly what they are. worth...low.

Fact is, there are jobs but your so called "hard working young people" are not wanting to work so, the immigrants take the jobs and the "hard working young people" live with and off their parents.

 

This guy explains the issues quite well.

 

[Goddess]

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Aha... it is OK for an unqualified or lesser qualified person to get the job if they are Canadian born or long time Canadian (whatever that is LOL).

Except we're not bringing in skilled workers, we're bringing in mainly low-wage workers.

Companies are abusing the LMIA system.

See video above.

[PIK]

My understanding it's expensive for a Canadian to get a trucking lic. Yet new people get it for free

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8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

https://www.skilledtradesontario.ca/?https%3A%2F%2Fwww_skilledtradesontario_ca%2F%3Futm_medium=ad&gad_source=1

Laborours, a step to the trades, are needed on every job.

Post jobs in Manitoba 

[ExFlyer]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Except we're not bringing in skilled workers, we're bringing in mainly low-wage workers.

Companies are abusing the LMIA system.

See video above.

The point  is, the best person for the job.

Never said anything about bringing in skilled people.

If the best person is here, they should get the job.

And who is abusing the Labour Market Impact Assessment and how> and why should anyone pay attention to it?

 

Edited August 19, 2024 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said:

Post jobs in Manitoba 

I am not in Manitoba. Not interested about it there LOL

Googled it for you

https://ca.indeed.com/q-trades-l-manitoba-jobs.html?mna=&aceid=&gad_source=1&gclsrc=ds&vjk=c46dd3f0302eddac

 

https://www.gov.mb.ca/aesi/apprenticeship/discover/mbtrades/index.html

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The point  is, the best person for the job.

Never said anything about bringing in skilled people.

If the best person is here, they should get the job.

 

You should at least watch the video and address the points made in it before you respond.

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13 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I am not in Manitoba. Not interested about it there LOL

Googled it for you

https://ca.indeed.com/q-trades-l-manitoba-jobs.html?mna=&aceid=&gad_source=1&gclsrc=ds&vjk=c46dd3f0302eddac

 

https://www.gov.mb.ca/aesi/apprenticeship/discover/mbtrades/index.html

Thank you. Jobs that do not require a drivers abstract,  i will look at.

[ExFlyer]

21 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You should at least watch the video and address the points made in it before you respond.

No.

I decide by knowing what is actually going on and seeing what jobs there are.

I see help wanted signs in every store I go in to.

You should get out of your basement and look at the real world before you respond.

11 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Thank you. Jobs that do not require a drivers abstract,  i will look at.

Huh?? Drivers abstract?

[Goddess]

9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

No.

I decide by knowing what is actually going on and seeing what jobs there are.

I see help wanted signs in every store I go in to.

You should get out of your basement and look at the real world before you respond.

At least you confirmed what we all already knew - you don't look at any facts that contradict your own opinions.

9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I see help wanted signs in every store I go in to.

You should get out of your basement and look at the real world before you respond.

Funny, you reject anecdotal evidence from everyone else, but insist we all accept your's.

Edited August 19, 2024 by Goddess

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Aha... it is OK for an unqualified or lesser qualified person to get the job if they are Canadian born or long time Canadian (whatever that is LOL).

Not unqualified. And absolutely yes. Canadian jobs for Canadians only. This is ridiculous thar a Chinese coming here as student trained by his professor and then replaces his professor in Canada not because he is more qualified but because he works like a donkey. We cannot compete against 8 billion people outside Canada. 

In Canada we are not used to or accept slavery. It is 40 hours per week not 80 for 40 hours pay. It is equally not right to hire cheap Indian, middle eastern people for their cheap labor when hundreds of thousands of Canadians are out of work.

Any government or establishment giving priority to foreigners must be voted out or face the court as Canadian laws clearly saying foreigners must be hired only if no Canadian can be found or qualify for the position. 

Edited August 19, 2024 by CITIZEN_2015

[PIK]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

The point  is, the best person for the job.

Never said anything about bringing in skilled people.

If the best person is here, they should get the job.

I don't know that

Do you?

Please provide that information stating that..

Just going by what I was told by people in the Industry. And why not, they are treated better then the homeless.

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

At least you confirmed what we all already knew - you don't look at any facts that contradict your own opinions.

Funny, you reject anecdotal evidence from everyone else, but insist we all accept your's.

When ya gonna learn that trying to outwit, out smart and accuse me is a losing proposition?? LOL

One day, when you grow up, you may be able to have a mature discussion with me but, till then, keep whining.

[ExFlyer]

25 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Not unqualified. And absolutely yes. Canadian jobs for Canadians only. This is ridiculous thar a Chinese coming here as student trained by his professor and then replaces his professor in Canada not because he is more qualified but because he works like a donkey. We cannot compete against 8 billion people outside Canada. 

In Canada we are not used to or accept slavery. It is 40 hours per week not 80 for 40 hours pay. It is equally not right to hire cheap Indian, middle eastern people for their cheap labor when hundreds of thousands of Canadians are out of work.

Any government or establishment giving priority to foreigners must be voted out or face the court as Canadian laws clearly saying foreigners must be hired only if no Canadian can be found or qualify for the position. 

Bottom line...the best person should always get the job, regardless.

If you are OK for second best because of identity, then you have no right to complain about anything LOL

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

When ya gonna learn that trying to outwit, out smart and accuse me is a losing proposition?? LOL

One day, when you grow up, you may be able to have a mature discussion with me but, till then, keep whining.

It's not mature to discount topical anecdotes from others and ignore facts that disagree with your opinion and then demand others adhere to different rules.

It's actually very immature on your part.

You're the pigeon on the chessboard - knocking pieces over, shitting everywhere and then strutting around like you won.

 

[CITIZEN_2015]

16 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Bottom line...the best person should always get the job, regardless.

If you are OK for second best because of identity, then you have no right to complain about anything LOL

As I said I was best qualified for the position until this Chinese showed up from Beijing. That was why I was hired at the first place among many applicants. We cannot be best in the whole world.

 

Edited August 19, 2024 by CITIZEN_2015

[Guest]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

because young people seem, for whatever reason, think they are worth more

When I see a kid like that, I see a child that was coddled too much.

Nobody hit them with reality.

When I went to college, the first thing I did, was look at the market for potential shortages. Average salaries within fields and likelihood to find work.

Looking for a job should be no different. Quite a few websites will tell you what average salaries are in your field, giving you a base on what to expect. Experience increases that number, significantly.

Also gives teeth to your negotiations. You're otherwise pulling numbers out of your butt, based on how much you feel you're worth (subjective), vs what your skillset will net you in your current market (data based).

Not conducive to getting hired.

If the field you're looking for calls for resourcefulness, you have just failed the easiest test, to showcase that skill to your boss.

Any employer worth their salt will look at the market to set their rate. Your experience will dictate how high within those threasholds. 

You're not owed anything. You are earning a living, after all.

What boggles my mind, is if my ad is very transparent.

You seeing a salary range, and demanding 10 grand more on the interview.

Why waste my time, if my offer sucks to begin with?

I see an add that sucks, I skip it. The beauty of a free market. You don't owe me anything, either.

Burning bridges does catch up to you, though eventually.

It shows me you didn't read the ad, and again--if the job calls for proofreading, you're the last person  I will consider.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, PIK said:

That's where the money is in trades. But kids don't want to get dirty.

Or work. 

 

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1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

Or work. 

 

Kids definitely want to work...just not at Walmart or Tim Hortons 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

We have to close the borders.

I don't understanding how closing the border fixes anything.

We need to control the volume of immigrants that we allow here, to avoid overwhelming our systems. Not stop them from coming here.

We need immigration in Canada. However, we need to be pragmatic.

 

Just now, DUI_Offender said:

Kids definitely want to work...just not at Walmart or Tim Hortons 

Nor did I. I had to get experience, and work my way up.

Want to skip the line, go to trades. Better yet, start a business. Tons of grants out there.

[Nefarious Banana]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

Or work. 

 

Is shuffling papers . . . work?

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8 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Or work. 

 

Not true. In 2005, the producers of Girls Gone Wild came to Winnipeg.  There were 140 applications.  That is dedication from 18-21 year olds.

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

It's not mature to discount topical anecdotes from others and ignore facts that disagree with your opinion and then demand others adhere to different rules.

It's actually very immature on your part.

You're the pigeon on the chessboard - knocking pieces over, shitting everywhere and then strutting around like you won.

 

Yeah OK.

Go back to stroking your COVID buddies LOL

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

As I said I was best qualified for the position until this Chinese showed up from Beijing. That was why I was hired at the first place among many applicants. We cannot be best in the whole world.

 

You did not say you were best qualified. You said "Chinese newcomers work like donkeys and have doctorate degrees like the poop out of donkeys. The institute decided to retain him at the end of two year trial period and I was let go. "...and "then replaces his professor in Canada not because he is more qualified but because he works like a donkey."

Perhaps you did not "work like a dog" or "donkey" and they wanted someone that "worked like a dog" or "donkey" and you lost out?

Yes, you were hired ahead of others until....someone came along that was better and better fir the company. and, away you go. Happens all the time.

Employers look at the work and out put and someone else worked more and harder than you. They did not owe you anything and can decide what is best for themselves.

Bottom line is your worth is as big as the hole you leave in the bucket of water when you take you hand out.

Edited August 19, 2024 by ExFlyer
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[ExFlyer]

49 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Kids definitely want to work...just not at Walmart or Tim Hortons 

Yeah, they all want an office and be CEO LOL

There is hierarchy in all jobs and ya gotta work your way up the ladder.

Everyone is a zero and at the bottom until you prove yourself.