User Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 6 minutes ago, Black Dog said: You said Israel is providing aid to Gaza. That's a lie. They have, begrudgingly and in the face of international pressure, allowed others to supply trickle of aid into Gaza in the last few months. It takes Israeli resources to provide the humanitarian corridors and staging areas and protect them so that these goods can make it to the Palestinians in Gaza. You are playing dishonest semantics games here. As I said, if you want honesty, you need to start being more honest. 8 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Israeli lawmaker defends alleged rape of Hamas prisoner as far-right protesters rage over IDF troops' detention Israel authorities have detained and charged those responsible. 9 minutes ago, Black Dog said: I don't support Hamas, obviously, which is why i'm against Israel's ongoing efforts to ensure Hamas remains the only viable force in Palestinian politics and life. Notice how you avoided my questions. You say you don't support Hamas... but offer no solution here other than to defend their existence and be OK with the things they have done. Where is your honesty? Especially after you said you don't care about the rockets and missiles killing Israelis and disrupting their lives. There is very little honesty from you here. Quote
Black Dog Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, User said: It takes Israeli resources to provide the humanitarian corridors and staging areas and protect them so that these goods can make it to the Palestinians in Gaza. You are playing dishonest semantics games here. As I said, if you want honesty, you need to start being more honest. Even AIPAC doesn't claim Israel is supplying aid, are they playing semantic games too? Quote Israel authorities have detained and charged those responsible. "Notice how you avoided my questions." Quote You say you don't support Hamas... but offer no solution here other than to defend their existence and be OK with the things they have done. Where is your honesty? Again, you have no business calling for honesty when you straight up lie about the bold. Quote Especially after you said you don't care about the rockets and missiles killing Israelis and disrupting their lives. There is very little honesty from you here. I think that was actually incredibly honest of me to say, certainly more honest than you who can't bring yourself to admit you don't care a bit about the civilian casualties in Gaza. Edited July 31, 2024 by Black Dog Quote
CdnFox Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 9 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Letting aid through is not the same as actually providing the aid, maybe an adult could explain the difference to you. Israel directly provides water and electricity exclusive of any other country and contributes to the food being sent in, provides transport for the food in many cases and security. And now an adult has explained it to you Quote Look how you have to lie and dissemble to make you shitty points. Look how you freak out and throw insults because you know i'm right and there's nothing you can say Your argument was 'because i oppose hamas i oppose the israeli efforts to get rid of them". And it's utter nonsense. You are in fact saying that because you oppose hamas you support hamas. People that actually oppose hamas support the idea of continuing the war till every hamas militant and official is dead or behind bars and then taking over the governance of gaza until such time as a responsible gov't can be elected by the people. You can see the difference. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
gatomontes99 Posted July 31, 2024 Author Report Posted July 31, 2024 20 minutes ago, Black Dog said: lol, you guys are reaching so hard. Reaching? It is reaching to quote the President in context? 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Black Dog Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Israel directly provides water and electricity exclusive of any other country and contributes to the food being sent in, provides transport for the food in many cases and security. And now an adult has explained it to you Which is not what is being discussed, but it's telling you have to move the goalposts, c)nt. Quote Look how you freak out and throw insults because you know i'm right and there's nothing you can say Your argument was 'because i oppose hamas i oppose the israeli efforts to get rid of them". And it's utter nonsense. You are in fact saying that because you oppose hamas you support hamas. Oh it's not lying it's just your inability to comprehend simple concepts that's at fault here, my mistake. Quote People that actually oppose hamas support the idea of continuing the war till every hamas militant and official is dead or behind bars and then taking over the governance of gaza until such time as a responsible gov't can be elected by the people. Ah I see because I understand those are unrealistic and unachievable goals, i must support the status quo? You are a simpleton in the truest sense of the word. 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Reaching? It is reaching to quote the President in context? You didn't though, you went out of your way to ignore the context. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 31, 2024 Author Report Posted July 31, 2024 9 minutes ago, Black Dog said: You didn't though, you went out of your way to ignore the context. I literally post a video and transcript of the entire interaction. That is as full of context as it gets. What more do you want? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Even AIPAC doesn't claim Israel is supplying aid, are they playing semantic games too? No, you are. And if you bothered to read the link you would see some of those line items were from Israel, not just facilitated by Israel You continue to be a dishonest and dishonorable person. 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: "Notice how you avoided my questions." To what end? This was not an example of an Israeli backed or sponsored mistreatment of prisoners. Those responsible are being dealt with currently. The entire point you were making here was dishonest. Is this the best example you have of Israel doing bad things? Really? 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Again, you have no business calling for honesty when you straight up lie about the bold. Show me how its a lie? You won't offer anything more here than attacking Israel for carrying out a war against Hamas. So... if Israel is not destroying Hamas, and you oppose Israel destroying Hamas... guess what that means? It means you are defacto OK with what they did because you oppose stopping them from doing it. Please explain otherwise coward. Especially as you are just fine with them launching rockets every day... 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: I think that was actually incredibly honest of me to say, certainly more honest than you who can't bring yourself to admit you don't care a bit about the civilian casualties in Gaza. You don't care about the civilian casualties in Gaza as you refuse to condemn Hamas for causing them with their tactics and their not surrendering. Quote
Black Dog Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, User said: No, you are. And if you bothered to read the link you would see some of those line items were from Israel, not just facilitated by Israel You continue to be a dishonest and dishonorable person. Yes, some water and some power. But we're talkig about aid items. Quote To what end? This was not an example of an Israeli backed or sponsored mistreatment of prisoners. Those responsible are being dealt with currently. The entire point you were making here was dishonest. Is this the best example you have of Israel doing bad things? Really? Oh sorry I didn't realize raping prisoners, prominent politicians defending those rapes and soldiers trying to free the rapists wasn't actually that bad in your books, but that does explain a lot. And here's me thinking it's a sign of a deep sickness in Israeli political society and culture. Quote Show me how its a lie? You won't offer anything more here than attacking Israel for carrying out a war against Hamas. So... if Israel is not destroying Hamas, and you oppose Israel destroying Hamas... guess what that means? It means you are defacto OK with what they did because you oppose stopping them from doing it. Please explain otherwise coward. Especially as you are just fine with them launching rockets every day... I didn't say any of the things you said I said, therefore it's a lie. Pretty straightforward, liar. Quote You don't care about the civilian casualties in Gaza as you refuse to condemn Hamas for causing them with their tactics and their not surrendering. Hamas isn't bombing their own population, Israel is. Edited July 31, 2024 by Black Dog Quote
User Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: Yes, some water and some power. But we're talkig about aid items. Of course... because water and fuel and medical supplies are not "aid items" Seriously, this is just a dumb dishonest game for you. 2 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Oh sorry I didn't realize raping prisoners, prominent politicians defending those rapes and soldiers trying to free the rapists wasn't actually that bad in your books, but that does explain a lot. And here's me thinking it's a sign of a deep sickness in Israeli political society and culture. Just not sure what this has to do with your original assertion about things Israel does. Israel did not do these things, bad soldiers did who are being detained, investigated, and charged. 4 minutes ago, Black Dog said: I didn't say any of the things you said I said, therefore it's a lie. Pretty straightforward, liar. Still going to play your dishonest games. 4 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Hamas isn't bombing their own population, Israel is. Hamas is hiding behind their population to fight Israel. Quote
Black Dog Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 19 minutes ago, User said: Just not sure what this has to do with your original assertion about things Israel does. Israel did not do these things, bad soldiers did who are being detained, investigated, and charged. Just a few bad apples with the support of prominent MKs and hundreds of their fellow apples, huh? Quote
robosmith Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 8 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Israel's problems are exacerbated by the lack of support from the US. The US is in no way obligated to support Israel's offensive against Gaza. 8 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: California is dealing with a natural disaster. And the Federal Forest Service is providing the obligated services to deal with it. 8 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Finally, Biden abandoned negotiations with Venezuela, earlier this year, which may have prevented the election fraud that appears to have taken place. The US has NO OBLIGATION to prevent election fraud in foreign nations. AKA, you're DREAMING. LMAO 7 hours ago, Nationalist said: Well...aside from all the unanswered questions about why and how that young man managed to slip right under the noses of the SS... I think you should write Brandon and get him to try this. Really. Do it. "Brandon" is NOT the POTUS, lDIOT. Quote
robosmith Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Social media trying to wipe the trump assassination attempt under the rug. Kamala lying through her teeth about her beliefs and the msm jumps on the bandwagon. At what point do American conservatives fight back? Trump should be way out in front of this chickenshit in the polls. @American Conservatives. Canada and the entire world needs you now. You may have to lower yourselves to the level of these Libbies in order to win this election. Anything goes now. Do not let these destructive little nerds, complete their agenda. It will ruin America and throw the entire planet into chaos. @Nationalist you need to STOP INTERFERING in the US election. It's really NONE of your business. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Which is not what is being discussed, but it's telling you have to move the goalposts, c)nt. It is precisely what was being discussed. Is israel providing aid? Yes. They provide power water and food and facilitate the supplies coming from other countries. That's literally aid. 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Oh it's not lying it's just your inability to comprehend simple concepts that's at fault here, my mistake. ooops another freak out with no rebuttal And you make a LOT of mistakes. 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Ah I see because I understand those are unrealistic and unachievable goals, i must support the status quo? Nope. It's clearly just a justification for your support of hamas. It is entirely realistic for israel to take over the gaza strip and control it till they're sure hamas has been purged and a new gov't is in place, and we both know that. But either way it's obvious that your claim isn't based on rational thought but rather just as an attempt to justify your support of a terrorist group. Oh i HAVE! to support hamas because hamas!! Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Ya know...not all that long ago, I'd have been shocked and against any violent actions. But that time is gone. I'm afraid I'm with ya brother. This abject chickenshit has got to end... One way or the other. No one is shocked at political violence here since Jan 6th. The gloves are off, esp since Biden has IMMUNITY NOW. What's your address in case the SS needs to find you? 4 hours ago, Deluge said: Agreed. And we will play fair, but that's only insofar as the leftoids will allow it. You keyboard warriors will get your asses kicked. Quote
robosmith Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Isn't it hilarious how Joe Biden threatens to kill the speaker and that becomes Republicans want war? Trump struck first. What goes around, comes around. Duh 4 hours ago, Deluge said: Easy sh*thead. I think it'd be best if you renounce your citizenship and move to Iran. What do you think? You've proven you never "think." LMAO Quote
User Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 30 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Just a few bad apples with the support of prominent MKs and hundreds of their fellow apples, huh? Figuring that these are isolated incidents of prisoner abuse, yes, these are a few bad apples. Figuring the system and its leadership are seeking to hold them accountable, yes. You just gonna be a coward and ignore all the rest? Quote
Matthew Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 3 hours ago, Deluge said: You asked how someone simply winning an election would start a war, and I just told you. Harris is a menace and she hates America. Her first round of executive orders would probably trigger a civil war. Ok, interesting. So when you say "Harris will probably start a second civil war" do you mean that you would start commiting violence? Or who? Quote
Black Dog Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 11 minutes ago, User said: Figuring that these are isolated incidents of prisoner abuse, yes, these are a few bad apples. Figuring the system and its leadership are seeking to hold them accountable, yes. You just gonna be a coward and ignore all the rest? If you're going to ignore the part where the rapists have the support of several prominent MKs, cops and members of the military why shouldn't I ignore anything else you say? Quote
User Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 2 minutes ago, Black Dog said: If you're going to ignore the part where the rapists have the support of several prominent MKs, cops and members of the military why shouldn't I ignore anything else you say? I am not ignoring anything, what does that have to do with anything we were originally discussing that you were trying to claim? If this is the best example you can harp on about Israel being bad... then my goodness man, you got nothing. Meanwhile, you are just fine with Hamas living on and continuing to try to kill Israeli people, rape, torture, and take hostages and none of them be held accountable for it. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 31, 2024 Author Report Posted July 31, 2024 Just now, User said: I am not ignoring anything, what does that have to do with anything we were originally discussing that you were trying to claim? If this is the best example you can harp on about Israel being bad... then my goodness man, you got nothing. Meanwhile, you are just fine with Hamas living on and continuing to try to kill Israeli people, rape, torture, and take hostages and none of them be held accountable for it. I mean, he thought the full transcript with the full video was taking it out of context, so reason doesn't seem to be a requirement for what he posts. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Black Dog Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 9 minutes ago, User said: I am not ignoring anything, what does that have to do with anything we were originally discussing that you were trying to claim? If this is the best example you can harp on about Israel being bad... then my goodness man, you got nothing. Oh look you're playing dumb. Every accusation from you is a f*cking confession isn't it. Quote
User Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Oh look you're playing dumb. Every accusation from you is a f*cking confession isn't it. Only one playing dumb here is you. This is what you do with every discussion you are in. Just absolutely worthless. Go away. Go do something else with your life. Quote
Black Dog Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 42 minutes ago, User said: Only one playing dumb here is you. This is what you do with every discussion you are in. Just absolutely worthless. Go away. Go do something else with your life. Sorry: by not denouncing sufficiently the people defending the anal rapists, I can only conclude that you are pro-anal rape. These are your rules, not mine. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 5 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Sorry: by not denouncing sufficiently the people defending the anal rapists, I can only conclude that you are pro-anal rape. These are your rules, not mine. Says the guy who supports terrorists who rape women and burn babies. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
BeaverFever Posted July 31, 2024 Report Posted July 31, 2024 (edited) On 7/30/2024 at 5:44 PM, gatomontes99 said: I can't believe this is real. This is AI, right? Apparently not. Obviously he’s not threatening to lill him, he’s saying he’s irrelevant The mental gymnastics Trumptards go through is always good for a laugh. Edited July 31, 2024 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
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