myata Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 An attempt to overthrow democratic government; or prevent it from ascending by compromising or "stealing" a democratic election would be considered a crime against the state in most democracies. This isn't a small matter. The Constitution, checks and balances were supposed to guard and protect the society and democracy against such attempts. Except they aren't working. There's no functioning mechanism, tool or instrument that can a) determine and b) prosecute such cases with the confidence and support of the majority of the citizens. This is a dysfunction of democracy. It is a glaring weakness. Theatrics and shows may try to distract from it, but they can do nothing to make it go away. The Constitution isn't protected any longer. And it means that the democracy is under threat. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted July 16, 2024 Author Report Posted July 16, 2024 See, if it's shrugged away and ignored now: it would mean that anyone can do it again, any time and with impunity. "Just find me the votes". And that would be the banana republic, not a modern democracy, de facto and objectively. This is what's at stake here. So either the justice system; or the citizens must determine what has transpired there; or the demise of democracy and banana state. Is it clear enough? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
suds Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 (edited) 36 minutes ago, myata said: An attempt to overthrow democratic government; or prevent it from ascending by compromising or "stealing" a democratic election would be considered a crime against the state in most democracies. This isn't a small matter. The Constitution, checks and balances were supposed to guard and protect the society and democracy against such attempts. Except they aren't working. There's no functioning mechanism, tool or instrument that can a) determine and b) prosecute such cases with the confidence and support of the majority of the citizens. This is a dysfunction of democracy. It is a glaring weakness. Theatrics and shows may try to distract from it, but they can do nothing to make it go away. The Constitution isn't protected any longer. And it means that the democracy is under threat. A constitution is only a piece of paper, so I don't see how it could possibly prevent anyone from attempting to overturn an election. Although it can prevent them from succeeding (at least in countries where rule of law exists). I doubt there's anything in the U.S. Constitution that would allow (or be misconstrued to allow) a few politicians or an angry mob to decide who wins or loses. Edited July 16, 2024 by suds Quote
Five of swords Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 57 minutes ago, myata said: An attempt to overthrow democratic government; or prevent it from ascending by compromising or "stealing" a democratic election would be considered a crime against the state in most democracies. This isn't a small matter. The Constitution, checks and balances were supposed to guard and protect the society and democracy against such attempts. Except they aren't working. There's no functioning mechanism, tool or instrument that can a) determine and b) prosecute such cases with the confidence and support of the majority of the citizens. This is a dysfunction of democracy. It is a glaring weakness. Theatrics and shows may try to distract from it, but they can do nothing to make it go away. The Constitution isn't protected any longer. And it means that the democracy is under threat. Historically what people considered perhaps the most important 'right' in the US constitution was freedom of association. In fact, that is what tocquiville remarked as perhaps the most important power relation concept in the usa in his book 'democracy in America'. But that right was officially eliminated in the 1968 Civil rights bill. And I don't see how anything in the constitution could be considered relevant since then. In fact, if you think about it, 1865 might mark the end of constitutional rights...along with the southern states being forced to sign under duress who is allowed to be a citizen. Whether or not you have some emotional reaction to 'racism' and how evil it is,it cannot be denied that in an abstract way thr illegality of ravism...of a humans personal preferences...and state enforcement of that attitude...marks a total abrogated of how we historically understood our 'constitutional rights' were. Quote
myata Posted July 16, 2024 Author Report Posted July 16, 2024 26 minutes ago, suds said: I doubt there's anything in the U.S. Constitution that would allow (or be misconstrued to allow) a few politicians or an angry mob to decide who wins or loses. If such cases cannot be a) determined via a due process that majority of citizens accept as legitimate; and b) prosecuted to prevent criminal reoccurrence then anyone will be able to try it again and again with impunity. Until it succeeds. How is it not obvious? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 Dear Diary... *so begins the ramblings* 2 1 Quote
suds Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 39 minutes ago, myata said: If such cases cannot be a) determined via a due process that majority of citizens accept as legitimate; and b) prosecuted to prevent criminal reoccurrence then anyone will be able to try it again and again with impunity. Until it succeeds. How is it not obvious? Just so there's no misunderstanding...... 1) you believe it's undemocratic to question or not accept a Judge's decision, and 2) you believe one should be prosecuted for questioning or not accepting the validity of an election result. Have I got that about right? Quote
myata Posted July 17, 2024 Author Report Posted July 17, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, suds said: Have I got that about right? None. The first point was already explained no need to repeat. And the second is about "the conspiracy to overturn a democratic election". Is it clearer, this way? Edited July 17, 2024 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted July 17, 2024 Author Report Posted July 17, 2024 And this is just a brainless spammer right here. Dead brains can do only three dead harmonics: Adore and worship HIM!! Anathema Bullsh*t The result is always the same. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted July 17, 2024 Report Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, myata said: And this is just a brainless spammer right here. Dead brains can do only three dead harmonics: Adore and worship HIM!! Anathema Bullsh*t The result is always the same. LOL, this was in incoherent rambling mess from the start. Quote
Legato Posted July 17, 2024 Report Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, myata said: And this is just a brainless spammer right here. Dead brains can do only three dead harmonics: Adore and worship HIM!! Anathema Bullsh*t The result is always the same. All the harmonics to create a square wave are based upon the fundamental frequency of the wave. You can then integrate or differentiate the wave depending on the desired result. You dear sir, seem to be lacking any semblance of a fundamental frequency. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 17, 2024 Report Posted July 17, 2024 2 hours ago, myata said: And this is just a brainless spammer right here. Dead brains can do only three dead harmonics: Sounds like you're one harmonic short of a full barbershop quartet to be honest. Are you EVER going to just speak plain english and stop spamming the board? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
myata Posted July 17, 2024 Author Report Posted July 17, 2024 If a dead brain produces a new harmonic it would be nothing short of discovering alien intelligence. Both are vanishingly rare as we know - if exist at all. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Legato Posted July 17, 2024 Report Posted July 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, myata said: If a dead brain produces a new harmonic it would be nothing short of discovering alien intelligence. Both are vanishingly rare as we know - if exist at all. Mimsy Were The Borogoves. 1 Quote
myata Posted July 17, 2024 Author Report Posted July 17, 2024 That's why science works. Amazing iPhone. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
robosmith Posted July 17, 2024 Report Posted July 17, 2024 22 hours ago, Five of swords said: Historically what people considered perhaps the most important 'right' in the US constitution was freedom of association. In fact, that is what tocquiville remarked as perhaps the most important power relation concept in the usa in his book 'democracy in America'. But that right was officially eliminated in the 1968 Civil rights bill. And I don't see how anything in the constitution could be considered relevant since then. In fact, if you think about it, 1865 might mark the end of constitutional rights...along with the southern states being forced to sign under duress who is allowed to be a citizen. Whether or not you have some emotional reaction to 'racism' and how evil it is,it cannot be denied that in an abstract way thr illegality of ravism...of a humans personal preferences...and state enforcement of that attitude...marks a total abrogated of how we historically understood our 'constitutional rights' were. Sorry you don't have the right to be an a-hole, no matter how much you want to be. If you're a manager or owner of a major corporation, many LIVES and society depends on YOUR FAIRNESS. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 17, 2024 Report Posted July 17, 2024 13 minutes ago, myata said: That's why science works. Amazing iPhone. Spamming leftist is spamming are we ok with that now? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Five of swords Posted July 17, 2024 Report Posted July 17, 2024 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Sorry you don't have the right to be an a-hole, no matter how much you want to be. If you're a manager or owner of a major corporation, many LIVES and society depends on YOUR FAIRNESS. Lol...if you are fair you are not going to be managing a major corporation for long. Quote
myata Posted July 17, 2024 Author Report Posted July 17, 2024 Is conspiracy to overturn a democratic election a crime against state - or just a normal "political" thing to be shrugged off and encouraged? You have to answer, you know why right? Can and should each and every loser from now on take a violent mob to the Congress, break in and sack it? You can't pretend it didn't happen - no way, because: it's already defining and will define the future. Common sense? Not any longer as it seems. And it's not some confusion, no, no there's a plan: you, we have to forget who we are and what we know: all of it - it's the only way the cult could rule. The Idol would profess the truth of the day and we would accept it as is, no questions asked what is a question? It used to be a book, right. But it happened before and this time, no way we couldn't have known. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
robosmith Posted July 18, 2024 Report Posted July 18, 2024 8 hours ago, Five of swords said: Lol...if you are fair you are not going to be managing a major corporation for long. Because you say so? Or because they taught you that in business school. In reality, most people respect fairness, and you need most people to respect you to be a good manager. Quote
Five of swords Posted July 18, 2024 Report Posted July 18, 2024 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Because you say so? Or because they taught you that in business school. In reality, most people respect fairness, and you need most people to respect you to be a good manager. Nobody respects their manager. And really there aren't many good managers. Corporations don't need good managers. What corporations like is monopoly control, so they don't have to worry about this stuff Quote
Nationalist Posted July 18, 2024 Report Posted July 18, 2024 (edited) This is all so pathetic. Libbies must do and say anything to obscure the facts that clearly supported the idea that the 2020 election was fraudulent. From the illegal decisions to allow all those mail-in ballots, to the counting machines that even Democrats were leery of before 2020. The "broken water mains", the pallets of ballots trucked from state to state, all of it stunk like a rat. INCLUDING Hunter's laptop! But the Libbies...to this day...hide behind..."It was Covid". So convenient and such chickensh1t. Libbies and in particular @myata...You are fooling nobody. It is Brandon and his handlers who are destroying America. From the surrender to the Taliban, the new wars, the millions of illegals allowed...Hell INVITED to enter the USA, the fentanyl killing people, the in-your-face crime, the inflation and everything else they've done that has done nothing but sh1t on the American people and indeed, all people of the world. This Libbie chickensh1t ENDS NOW...myata. MAGA! Edited July 18, 2024 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted July 18, 2024 Report Posted July 18, 2024 5 hours ago, Five of swords said: Corporations don't need good managers. Tell me you have never worked in any kind of business that employs more than 1 person without telling me... Quote
CdnFox Posted July 18, 2024 Report Posted July 18, 2024 19 minutes ago, User said: Tell me you have never worked in any kind of business that employs more than 1 person without telling me... Does paper route count? I suspect it's his current profession. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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