Saddam says terrorist attacks with WMD on USA and UK--to come

[Montgomery Burns]

From tonight's ABC Nightline...

Saddam Hussien: "Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before August 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction."

How can this be?

Despite an overwhelming amount of evidence, the left said that Saddam had no links with terrorism and was absolutely no threat to the US.

And yet here it is--from the dictator's mouth.

There are 12 hours of audio tape and it is going to be released to the public Saturday February 18 by intelligencesummit.org. The tapes are from the mid 90s and they also talk about biological weapons--and their persistent efforts to hide information about WMD programs from UN inspectors.

Sounds like Iraq--besides shooting at US and UK jets, paying suicide bombers' families money to commit acts of terror, and attempting to assassinate an American President--broke the ceasefire they signed, even further...

Too bad Clinton was too busy bombing aspirin factories, kidnapping young Cuban boys at gunpoint, sending in tanks to terrorize Waco citizens, giving nuclear material to North Korea if they pretty-please-promised not to build nukes, selling secrets to the communist Chinese, forcing the FBI to turn over files on hundreds of Republicans so he could domestically spy on them, and finally, having sex with interns in the White House. Otherwise he might have found the time to deal with Saddam.

[newbie]

From tonight's ABC Nightline...

Saddam Hussien: "Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before August 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction."

How can this be?

Despite an overwhelming amount of evidence, the left said that Saddam had no links with terrorism and was absolutely no threat to the US.

And yet here it is--from the dictator's mouth.

There are 12 hours of audio tape and it is going to be released to the public Saturday February 18 by intelligencesummit.org. The tapes are from the mid 90s and they also talk about biological weapons--and their persistent efforts to hide information about WMD programs from UN inspectors.

Dear Monty. You still haven't learned that Saddam was BLUFFING. He was good at it too.

My edit: Hell, I could have predicted terrorism was coming as well due to the Amercian foreign policy alone.

[newbie]

Too bad Clinton was too busy bombing aspirin factories, kidnapping young Cuban boys at gunpoint, sending in tanks to terrorize Waco citizens, giving nuclear material to North Korea if they pretty-please-promised not to build nukes, selling secrets to the communist Chinese, forcing the FBI to turn over files on hundreds of Republicans so he could domestically spy on them, and finally, having sex with interns in the White House. Otherwise he might have found the time to deal with Saddam.

Compare Clinton's terrorism program to Dubya's pre-911. You might be surprised. Also, Clinton had the Orrin Hatch's of the world and a republican congress telling him that it was a waste of money to fund for terrorism.

[August1991]

Colin Powell, UN, 5 March 2003:

POWELL: My second purpose today is to provide you with additional information, to share with you what the United States knows about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction as well as Iraq's involvement in terrorism, which is also the subject of Resolution 1441 and other earlier resolutions.

I might add at this point that we are providing all relevant information we can to the inspection teams for them to do their work.

The material I will present to you comes from a variety of sources. Some are U.S. sources. And some are those of other countries. Some of the sources are technical, such as intercepted telephone conversations and photos taken by satellites. Other sources are people who have risked their lives to let the world know what Saddam Hussein is really up to.

White House

Why wasn't this "ABC Nightline" information released before? How is it new?

[Montgomery Burns]

Colin Powell, UN, 5 March 2003:

POWELL: My second purpose today is to provide you with additional information, to share with you what the United States knows about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction as well as Iraq's involvement in terrorism, which is also the subject of Resolution 1441 and other earlier resolutions.

I might add at this point that we are providing all relevant information we can to the inspection teams for them to do their work.

The material I will present to you comes from a variety of sources. Some are U.S. sources. And some are those of other countries. Some of the sources are technical, such as intercepted telephone conversations and photos taken by satellites. Other sources are people who have risked their lives to let the world know what Saddam Hussein is really up to.

White House

Why wasn't this "ABC Nightline" information released before? How is it new?

What does that have to do with an audio tape of Saddam saying he told the US and UK "that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction"?

Bush erred by wasting time going to the UN again, but he did it as a favor to Tony Blair; pragmatism. But that is not the topic.

There is more and these audio tapes are going to be made public. It proves that Iraq broke the ceasefire and the Iraq War was not "illegal".

[Montgomery Burns]

Newbie:

Dear Monty. You still haven't learned that Saddam was BLUFFING. He was good at it too.

Even if he was bluffing, did make this an "illegal and immoral" war?

My edit: Hell, I could have predicted terrorism was coming as well due to the Amercian foreign policy alone.

Ohhhh...a cliffhanger. When do we tune in for the final episode of The Pure Truth™?

[moderateamericain]

Newbie:

Dear Monty. You still haven't learned that Saddam was BLUFFING. He was good at it too.

Even if he was bluffing, did make this an "illegal and immoral" war?

My edit: Hell, I could have predicted terrorism was coming as well due to the Amercian foreign policy alone.

Ohhhh...a cliffhanger. When do we tune in for the final episode of The Pure Truth™?

Does anyone hear wanna take the chance that he was bluffing? You dont put on a condom unless your gonna fuck.

[Black Dog]

Poor, stupid Monty doesn't even bother reading the articles he hypes.

A spokeswoman for John Negroponte, director of national intelligence, said information contained in the transcriptions of the tapes was already known to intelligence officials.

"Intelligence community analysts from the CIA, and the DIA reviewed the translations and found that, while fascinating, from a historical perspective the tapes do not reveal anything that changes their post-war analysis of Iraq's weapons programs nor do they change the findings contained in the comprehensive Iraq Survey group report," she said in a statement.

The ISG, of course, was the group charged with scouring post-Saddam Iraq for WMD and WMD programs, the group that reported that Saddam's WMD capabilities were effectively dismantled after 1991. In other words: this is a non-story.

[Shady]

You idiots need to learn how to connect the dots.

Russia Warned U.S. About Iraq, Putin Says

Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday that his intelligence service had warned the Bush administration before the U.S. invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein's government was planning attacks against U.S. targets both inside and outside the country

Washington Post

Too bad Clinton was too busy bombing aspirin factories, kidnapping young Cuban boys at gunpoint, sending in tanks to terrorize Waco citizens, giving nuclear material to North Korea if they pretty-please-promised not to build nukes, selling secrets to the communist Chinese, forcing the FBI to turn over files on hundreds of Republicans so he could domestically spy on them, and finally, having sex with interns in the White House. Otherwise he might have found the time to deal with Saddam.

What a great summary Monty! I just wish it weren't so true. However, it does make you wonder what the world would look like now, what could have been, if there had been a real leader in the White House during those crucial years.

Dear Monty. You still haven't learned that Saddam was BLUFFING

Hey Monty, can you hear the screeching brakes as the "Bush lied" rally comes to a pathetic halt. Once again the President is vindicated, and once again many on the kook-left owe him a great big apology. I love it!

Oh, and here's a few more interesting statements made on the tapes:

Sir, the biological is very easy to make. It's so simple that any biologist can make a bottle of germs and drop it into a water tower and kill 100,000. This is not done by a state. No need to accuse a state. An individual can do it

-Tariq Aziz

We did not reveal all that we have," Kamel says in the meeting. "Not the type of weapons, not the volume of the materials we imported, not the volume of the production we told them about, not the volume of use. None of this was correct

-Hussein Kamel

(Shortly after this meeting, in August 1995, Hussein Kamel defected to Jordan, and Iraq was forced to admit that it had concealed its biological weapons program. (Kamel returned to Iraq in February 1996 and was killed in a firefight with Iraqi security forces.)

Connect the f***ing dots people!

[Black Dog]

You idiots need to learn how to connect the dots.

Russia Warned U.S. About Iraq, Putin Says

Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday that his intelligence service had warned the Bush administration before the U.S. invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein's government was planning attacks against U.S. targets both inside and outside the country

Do you figure if you keep posting the same article it will suddenly make your position less untenable (this being at least the fourth time you've posted it)? I'm surprised you'd bother trotting it out again after your pathetic attempts to defend it last time. And besides, I thought Pooty-poot was one of those miscreants who spent all his time bathing in Saddam's "blood money": the usual trope about why Russia oppossed the U.S. invasion.

But I guess when pretty much every other rationale for this war has been discredited, you cling to any faint thread you can. I can see you now, sitting in your mom's basement right now, rocking back and forth, clutching your George W. Bush action figure and repeating your mantra: "Putin warned of terror atacks, Putin warned of terror attacks..."

[newbie]

Great post as always BD. These guys are so bloody desperate. Of course it coincides with Bush's ever dipping approval rating. Hey, maybe Rove has been leaking again.

[Montgomery Burns]

Newbie:

Dear Monty. You still haven't learned that Saddam was BLUFFING. He was good at it too.

So good that he bluffed Dear Leader into signing the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998, declaring that Saddam was a threat to the free world and was hiding his weapons programs?

[Montgomery Burns]

Poor, stupid Monty doesn't even bother reading the articles he hypes.

A spokeswoman for John Negroponte, director of national intelligence, said information contained in the transcriptions of the tapes was already known to intelligence officials.

"Intelligence community analysts from the CIA, and the DIA reviewed the translations and found that, while fascinating, from a historical perspective the tapes do not reveal anything that changes their post-war analysis of Iraq's weapons programs nor do they change the findings contained in the comprehensive Iraq Survey group report," she said in a statement.

The ISG, of course, was the group charged with scouring post-Saddam Iraq for WMD and WMD programs, the group that reported that Saddam's WMD capabilities were effectively dismantled after 1991. In other words: this is a non-story.

I did read the article and you are the last one to be calling people stupid--oh ye of Saddam Had No Ties To Terrorism™ meme.

What ABC and you conveniently omit is that the ISG report stated that Saddam was intending to resume his WMD programm as soon as UN sanctions were dropped. Remember Dr. Mahdi Obeidi, who hid the research and prototypes for Iraq's nuclear-weapons program in his yard until after the coalition invasion?

These audio tapes prove that Saddam was violation of the agreement he signed and thus this was not an illegal war.

But according to you--not to see here. Move along please. Move along NOW!...Fast.

[newbie]

Newbie:

Dear Monty. You still haven't learned that Saddam was BLUFFING. He was good at it too.

So good that he bluffed Dear Leader into signing the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998, declaring that Saddam was a threat to the free world and was hiding his weapons programs?

Edited:

Don't forget he kicked the UN inspectors out in '98 and could easily (and did) fool the U.S. given their pitiful intelligence and Saddam's bragging. Clinton's Act simply ties into the United Nations: My Administration has pursued, and will continue to pursue, these objectives through active application of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions. It says nothing about any imminent threat or barging into Baghdad though, but rather letting the UN keep Saddam in check. And he was kept in check through sanctions.

[newbie]

Oh, and as far as Saddam and links to terrorism, I trust the 911 commission that Bush initiated on that.

[Slavik44]

From tonight's ABC Nightline...

Saddam Hussien: "Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before August 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction."

I suppose you were faced with a bit of a dillema...sitting right in front of you was quote, a worthless quote. Because to accept it at face value meant that you had to accept the second half of the quote, also at face value. Or you could, and rightfully so I add, claim that Suddam was a tyrranical Dictator who couldn't be trusted but in doing so wirte off any value of the first half of the quote. So you were faced with a dillema and with all the integrety that you had rose to the occasion and did the right thing, and chopped off the second half of the quote, eliminating your dilema. And this dilema was two fold for someone who talks about ommisions from the MSM, because the full quote said this:

"Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before Aug. 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction." Saddam goes on to say such attacks would be difficult to stop. "In the future, what would prevent a booby-trapped car causing a nuclear explosion in Washington or a germ or a chemical one?" But he adds that Iraq would never do such a thing. "This is coming, this story is coming but not from Iraq."

[newbie]

Slavik44, thanks for clearing that up. Monty has a habit of taking things out of context.

[sharkman]

Of course Saddam's going to say it would never come from Iraq, but can anyone remember the attempt on Bush Sr.'s life which originated in Iraq? A little consideration of past actions can help one determine what Saddam is capable of.

[Slavik44]

Of course Saddam's going to say it would never come from Iraq, but can anyone remember the attempt on Bush Sr.'s life which originated in Iraq? A little consideration of past actions can help one determine what Saddam is capable of.

As I said it is fair to argue he is tyranical dictator, but for the quote to have any real meaning you cannot just pick and choose what words you like. Besides that it was un-ethical, to say the least, to not give people the full quote and atleast attempt to explain it away at first, it just looks like your trying to hide something.

[Montgomery Burns]

Newbie:

Dear Monty. You still haven't learned that Saddam was BLUFFING. He was good at it too.

So good that he bluffed Dear Leader into signing the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998, declaring that Saddam was a threat to the free world and was hiding his weapons programs?

Edited:

Don't forget he kicked the UN inspectors out in '98 and could easily (and did) fool the U.S. given their pitiful intelligence and Saddam's bragging. Clinton's Act simply ties into the United Nations: My Administration has pursued, and will continue to pursue, these objectives through active application of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions. It says nothing about any imminent threat or barging into Baghdad though, but rather letting the UN keep Saddam in check. And he was kept in check through sanctions.

Spin spin spin and move the goalposts.

[Montgomery Burns]

Oh, and as far as Saddam and links to terrorism, I trust the 911 commission that Bush initiated on that.

What the hell is the matter with you?

The 9/11 commission said that Saddam was unquestionably linked to terrorism. Good God, the entire planet--with the exception of you and Black Dog--knows that Saddam's Iraq was a haven for terrorists.

FFS, Saddam openly boasted about paying the families of displaced Arab (usually called Palestinian) suicide bombers!! Who is paying you to troll the internet? Billionaire George Soros?

[Montgomery Burns]

From tonight's ABC Nightline...

Saddam Hussien: "Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before August 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction."

I suppose you were faced with a bit of a dillema...sitting right in front of you was quote, a worthless quote. Because to accept it at face value meant that you had to accept the second half of the quote, also at face value. Or you could, and rightfully so I add, claim that Suddam was a tyrranical Dictator who couldn't be trusted but in doing so wirte off any value of the first half of the quote. So you were faced with a dillema and with all the integrety that you had rose to the occasion and did the right thing, and chopped off the second half of the quote, eliminating your dilema. And this dilema was two fold for someone who talks about ommisions from the MSM, because the full quote said this:

"Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before Aug. 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction." Saddam goes on to say such attacks would be difficult to stop. "In the future, what would prevent a booby-trapped car causing a nuclear explosion in Washington or a germ or a chemical one?" But he adds that Iraq would never do such a thing. "This is coming, this story is coming but not from Iraq."

Poor Slavik. The person who tried to equate Nader splitting the left's vote (5%) with Perot splitting the right's vote (33%).

Perhaps you should have read the whole article...

"An individual can do it."

Ohhhh that proves that Saddam had no links terrorism.

Are you trying to win the Dumbest Reply of the Year™ award?

[Montgomery Burns]

Newbie:

Dear Monty. You still haven't learned that Saddam was BLUFFING. He was good at it too.

So good that he bluffed Dear Leader into signing the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998, declaring that Saddam was a threat to the free world and was hiding his weapons programs?

Edited:

Don't forget he kicked the UN inspectors out in '98 and could easily (and did) fool the U.S. given their pitiful intelligence and Saddam's bragging. Clinton's Act simply ties into the United Nations: My Administration has pursued, and will continue to pursue, these objectives through active application of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions. It says nothing about any imminent threat or barging into Baghdad though, but rather letting the UN keep Saddam in check. And he was kept in check through sanctions.

Bush never said anything about an imminent threat. Do you want to challenge me on this? You can use the spin of the NY Times, WaPo, LA Times, NBC, ABC, CNN, and See-BS. I'll go with the transcript from the White House--unless you think that KKKarl Rove--with some help from Halliburton--cooked the transcript on the WH website.

Yeesh. Why do I continue wasting my time trying to educate these maroons?

[Slavik44]

From tonight's ABC Nightline...

Saddam Hussien: "Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before August 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction."

I suppose you were faced with a bit of a dillema...sitting right in front of you was quote, a worthless quote. Because to accept it at face value meant that you had to accept the second half of the quote, also at face value. Or you could, and rightfully so I add, claim that Suddam was a tyrranical Dictator who couldn't be trusted but in doing so wirte off any value of the first half of the quote. So you were faced with a dillema and with all the integrety that you had rose to the occasion and did the right thing, and chopped off the second half of the quote, eliminating your dilema. And this dilema was two fold for someone who talks about ommisions from the MSM, because the full quote said this:

"Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before Aug. 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction." Saddam goes on to say such attacks would be difficult to stop. "In the future, what would prevent a booby-trapped car causing a nuclear explosion in Washington or a germ or a chemical one?" But he adds that Iraq would never do such a thing. "This is coming, this story is coming but not from Iraq."

Poor Slavik. The person who tried to equate Nader splitting the left's vote (5%) with Perot splitting the right's vote (33%).

Perhaps you should have read the whole article...

"An individual can do it."

Ohhhh that proves that Saddam had no links terrorism.

Are you trying to win the Dumbest Reply of the Year™ award?

There you go again putting words in my mouth again,

1. The Nader situation, You pointed out Clinton won because of a split vote, I merely pointed out that evidence would indicate bush won Florida by a couple hundred votes, I figure atleast a couple hundred peopel who voted nader would have been more likely to vote Democrat. So in that sense Bush himself like Clinton was able to take advantage of vote spliting to win an election that is what I said that is what I claim.

2. I didn't say suddam had no links to terrorism, I am not in a position to acurately judge that niether are you, I merely said that the quote taken as a whole had very little ground breaking value and indicated nothing. One of the hereo's of 9/11 predicted that planes would be used in the next terrorist attack against the WTC, it doesn't neccasarily make him responsible. If you want to prove suddam is nutcase there is so much evidence available to do so, you certainly don't need to use what is a worthless quote.

[newbie]

Bush never said anything about an imminent threat. Do you want to challenge me on this? You can use the spin of the NY Times, WaPo, LA Times, NBC, ABC, CNN, and See-BS. I'll go with the transcript from the White House--unless you think that KKKarl Rove--with some help from Halliburton--cooked the transcript on the WH website.

Semantics dear Monty.

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/11/define-imminent.html

"Well, of course he is.”

• White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett responding to the question.“is Saddam an imminent threat to U.S. interests, either in that part of the world or to Americans right here at home?”, 1/26/03

"No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq."

• Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 9/19/02

"Absolutely."

• White House spokesman Ari Fleischer answering whether Iraq was an "imminent threat," 5/7/03

"This is about imminent threat."

• White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 2/10/03

Okay, fine, we know Scottie doesn't speak for anybody, he's just David Gregory and Terry Moran's puffy pinata. So what about Preznit Remedial Reading himself?

"The world is also uniting to answer the unique and urgent threat posed by Iraq whose dictator has already used weapons of mass destruction to kill thousands."

• President Bush, 11/23/02

"There are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place. Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists."

• President Bush, 10/7/02

"The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."

• President Bush, 10/2/02

You're right. He didn't use the specific word "imminent."

Too many syllables.