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[Leafless]

Good for the Western Standard brave enough to keep Canadians politically informed and not politically oppressed.

But I really don't understand Mr. Harper's attitude worrying about the Canadian cartoon effect on troops in Afghanistan since Muslim radicals have no common sense anyways.

In fact I am begining to think with these ongoing riots what these radical Muslims really like is bombs, fire, guns and continual destruction until there is absolutely nothing left but sand.

Keep it up and you'll push yourselves back to the Middle Ages with nothing but sand and caves.

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[Riverwind]

Good for the Western Standard brave enough to keep Canadians politically informed and not politically oppressed.

The Western Standard is a tabloid trying to exploit a controversy. The cartoons were available on the web - there is no reason to further aggravate the situation by printing the cartoons.

The violent reaction of the Muslims unacceptable and unjustifiable but that is how they reacted and we cannot pretend it did not happen. One does not deal with a rabid dog by poking it with a stick.

[Leafless]

Sparhawk

You wrote- " One does not deal with a rabid dog by poking it with a stick."

You picked a bad comparison.

A rabid dog is generally shot dead.

Society 'cannot walk on eggshells' forever.

These Muslim terrorist organizations have been looking for the slightest provocation all over the world and have struck many times.

It seems you are ready or are in favour to allow "rabid dogs" to rule.

Are you??

[na85]

Well, that's not necessarily a good metaphor since one deals with rabid dogs by putting them down (or is it... )

One deals with a disobediant dog by teaching it its limits and who has the authority. In this case, we have the authority over what we print.

[fixer1]

It seems to me that any editor that willingly publishes the cartoon that have already caused riots and property damage by outraged muslims, should be dealt with using the very charter rights that he is using to say he is free to do so. He already knows ahead of time that publishing these cartoon will cause actions that will breach the public peace. So he should be charged accordingly and any damage or injury that is caused because of this, should fall on the Magazine to pay for.

The editors freedom to speak does not allow him to do things knowing in axdvance that there is a likely reaction to it, that could cause property damage, injury and possible death. He chose to publish it, knowing fully well, what the reactions have been so far. This should override his freedom of the press and charges should be laid.

It is time for people to grow up and use their heads for something other then seperating their ears.

[Wilber]

Good for the Western Standard brave enough to keep Canadians politically informed and not politically oppressed.

The Western Standard is a tabloid trying to exploit a controversy. The cartoons were available on the web - there is no reason to further aggravate the situation by printing the cartoons.

The violent reaction of the Muslims unacceptable and unjustifiable but that is how they reacted and we cannot pretend it did not happen. One does not deal with a rabid dog by poking it with a stick.

I'm glad someone finally had the cojones to print them. I'm sure we've all been offended by many cartoons for many different reasons during during our lifetimes. We get over it. The whole idea of terrorism is to modify someones behavior by the use of fear and the so called independent western press along with the politically correct western public has been suitably modified. If it wasn't for the riots and killing there would be no need to reprint them, they could and probably would have been ignored if not condemned out of hand. Printing them is not a matter of keeping people informed but making the statement that a free press will not be dictated to by a mob.

You deal with a rabid dog by shooting it.

[Riverwind]

A rabid dog is generally shot dead.

Only if you have a gun. If you don't have a gun that works then you need to look for other alternatives. Needlessly provoking the dog in such a situation serves no purpose.

[Wilber]

A rabid dog is generally shot dead.

Only if you have a gun. If you don't have a gun that works then you need to look for other alternatives. Needlessly provoking the dog in such a situation serves no purpose.

There is a painful series of injections which can save a human if used early enough but otherwise, if a rabid dog bites a person or other animal, they all die, including the rabid dog. There are no other alternatives.

[wellandboy]

It seems to me that any editor that willingly publishes the cartoon that have already caused riots and property damage by outraged muslims, should be dealt with using the very charter rights that he is using to say he is free to do so. He already knows ahead of time that publishing these cartoon will cause actions that will breach the public peace. So he should be charged accordingly and any damage or injury that is caused because of this, should fall on the Magazine to pay for.

The editors freedom to speak does not allow him to do things knowing in axdvance that there is a likely reaction to it, that could cause property damage, injury and possible death. He chose to publish it, knowing fully well, what the reactions have been so far. This should override his freedom of the press and charges should be laid.

It is time for people to grow up and use their heads for something other then seperating their ears.

The day that Canada becomes what you've described is the day that I'll be on the streets. The Muslim community needs to give their heads a collective shake. This entire furor is about tradition and has nothing to do with the Qu'ran., just like all the other fine oppressive Muslim traditions that are exceedingly cruel towards women, for instance. This is just more attempted oppression from the morally indignant.

[scribblet]

It seems to me that any editor that willingly publishes the cartoon that have already caused riots and property damage by outraged muslims, should be dealt with using the very charter rights that he is using to say he is free to do so. He already knows ahead of time that publishing these cartoon will cause actions that will breach the public peace. So he should be charged accordingly and any damage or injury that is caused because of this, should fall on the Magazine to pay for.

The editors freedom to speak does not allow him to do things knowing in axdvance that there is a likely reaction to it, that could cause property damage, injury and possible death. He chose to publish it, knowing fully well, what the reactions have been so far. This should override his freedom of the press and charges should be laid.

It is time for people to grow up and use their heads for something other then seperating their ears.

The day that Canada becomes what you've described is the day that I'll be on the streets. The Muslim community needs to give their heads a collective shake. This entire furor is about tradition and has nothing to do with the Qu'ran., just like all the other fine oppressive Muslim traditions that are exceedingly cruel towards women, for instance. This is just more attempted oppression from the morally indignant.

Its about control and establishing a Caliphate, we would do well to read about what is happening in Europe and learn from their experiences. Any Muslim who cannot live by our laws should hotfoot it back to the Middle East where they can easily live under Muslim law.

[margrace]

Good for the Western Standard brave enough to keep Canadians politically informed and not politically oppressed.

But I really don't understand Mr. Harper's attitude worrying about the Canadian cartoon effect on troops in Afghanistan since Muslim radicals have no common sense anyways.

In fact I am begining to think with these ongoing riots what these radical Muslims really like is bombs, fire, guns and continual destruction until there is absolutely nothing left but sand.

Keep it up and you'll push yourselves back to the Middle Ages with nothing but sand and caves.

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[Drea]

We should publish cartoons that mock the holocaust too.

After all -- no one has the right to be pissed about it -- it's only a cartoon for pete's sake!

All newspapers should carry cartoons of priests luring young boys into sex...

and Jews, skinny jews with money belts.

What you'd you think of that?

No, I don't think the muslim reaction is "ok".

But nor is it "ok" to publish the cartoons.

Put the shoe on the other foot for 5 minutes folks.

Ezra Levant is the north's version of Tucker Carlson -- a windbag with no brain.

[margrace]

Good for the Western Standard brave enough to keep Canadians politically informed and not politically oppressed.

But I really don't understand Mr. Harper's attitude worrying about the Canadian cartoon effect on troops in Afghanistan since Muslim radicals have no common sense anyways.

In fact I am begining to think with these ongoing riots what these radical Muslims really like is bombs, fire, guns and continual destruction until there is absolutely nothing left but sand.

Keep it up and you'll push yourselves back to the Middle Ages with nothing but sand and caves.

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Boy better go back and do some research it was the so called Christians who were living in Sand and Caves certainly not the Moors.

[geoffrey]

We should publish cartoons that mock the holocaust too.

After all -- no one has the right to be pissed about it -- it's only a cartoon for pete's sake!

All newspapers should carry cartoons of priests luring young boys into sex...

and Jews, skinny jews with money belts.

What you'd you think of that?

No, I don't think the muslim reaction is "ok".

But nor is it "ok" to publish the cartoons.

Put the shoe on the other foot for 5 minutes folks.

Ezra Levant is the north's version of Tucker Carlson -- a windbag with no brain.

The day people control what you print through the courts is a day we all lose our freedom to someone else. If you ok with that, keep bashing Levant. I personally think he is right showing Canadians (who were otherwise kept away from the cartoons) what the controversy is about. How else can these people make up their minds, without the news claiming that they are offense and you can't see them?

Who gives the right to those that get to see news and who doesn't?

Screw that, publish what you will. Ezra cannot be held responsible for the violence caused by these extremist freaks.

[Canuck E Stan]

How else can these people make up their minds, without the news claiming that they are offense and you can't see them?

Give me a break Geoffery,you know and I know if you want to see these cartoons you don't need to see them in a newspaper.There is no reason to print them with the Internet to give you and anybody else all the cartoons you want.

[sharkman]

I saw Ezra during the supper news hour last night. CTV gave him and a Muslim representative about ten minutes with the newscaster interjecting questions. Ezra made valid point after valid point and sounded far more reasonable than the Muslim, who at one point dared the Western Standard to print a biography about Mohammad. Ezra informed him the WE was a news magazine and these cartoons were news since they were the cause of rioting in Muslim nations, but Mohammad wasn't. Ezra is no wind bag.

Another valid point Ezra made was the efforts that Muslim radicals were making to have free presses in Western Nations follow Muslim will, not free will. He also pointed out that Syria and Iran, the two countries with the most demonstrations, both forbid public gatherings. This means it's obvious that these governments are orchestrating the protests in their countries! There is a hidden agenda, and the peoples of these and other countries are being used to force the hand of the United Nations, who is now making noise about resolutions banning certain behaviours deemed intolerant of religion. Too bad they don't have the cajones to ban violent demonstrations!

[geoffrey]

How else can these people make up their minds, without the news claiming that they are offense and you can't see them?

Give me a break Geoffery,you know and I know if you want to see these cartoons you don't need to see them in a newspaper.There is no reason to print them with the Internet to give you and anybody else all the cartoons you want.

Nonsense. It's the critical aspect of a news story, it should be included with any story on the topic. It's too bad the MSM needs to be scared to offend anyone!

[Wilber]

How else can these people make up their minds, without the news claiming that they are offense and you can't see them?

Give me a break Geoffery,you know and I know if you want to see these cartoons you don't need to see them in a newspaper.There is no reason to print them with the Internet to give you and anybody else all the cartoons you want.

I think any time that a person or group of persons commit murder and mayhem to prevent someone from speaking is a good enough reason in itself to speak.

[shoop]

Kudos to Ezra. He used to be a windbag on the grandest of scales.

However, he has *matured* a lot in the last few years.

I saw him interviewed by Ravi Bachiwal on CTV NewsNet yesterday.

Bachiwal asked him what he was doing to help the healing process. Levant answered fairly that he wasn't Oprah Winfrey and his job wasn't to heal people. Great answer. Devoid of the histrionics that characterized a younger Ezra Levant.

Ezra is no wind bag.

[Canuck E Stan]

Nonsense. It's the critical aspect of a news story, it should be included with any story on the topic.

When a story is pornographic in nature I don't see the newspapers or magazines printing the pictures that go with the story in the news, because it's "news".

When the word FUCK is used by someone in a news story I don't see them printing the word FUCK to quote the person.

Why all of a sudden is printing cartoon pictures that cause riots and death around the world a "freedom of the speech issue".

Why is showing someone with his brains blown all over the place "in bad taste" or using the word FUCK in "bad taste" or a showing intercourse or nudity in "bad taste".

These cartoons are in bad taste to the people who's culture says they are in bad taste.

Why can't western society accept this culture's disgust of these cartoons and stop trying to instantly change these people to western thinking.

The process will take time to change,why force it.

Only animosity,hate,destruction and lives lost will be the outcome...and for what.....cartoons?

It's not worth it.

[BubberMiley]

People who want the cartoons printed are the same as the people calling for violence: they both just want to pick a fight and are using this as an excuse to do it.

[Josh]

The magazine, or "tabloid" in question did nothing wrong by re-publishing the cartoons in question. In fact, (and as much as I hate the Charter) the Charter of Rights and Freedoms says, in Section 2:

"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:

freedom of conscience and religion;

freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;

freedom of peaceful assembly; and

freedom of association"

It was not un-ethical, it was not immoral of the magazine to republish the cartoons. Those who are offended by it, need not read the magazine.

[Riverwind]

The magazine, or "tabloid" in question did nothing wrong by re-publishing the cartoons in question. In fact, (and as much as I hate the Charter) the Charter of Rights and Freedoms says, in Section 2:

Everyone has a right to fart in front of the Queen if they so desire. Does not mean they should.

[geoffrey]

The magazine, or "tabloid" in question did nothing wrong by re-publishing the cartoons in question. In fact, (and as much as I hate the Charter) the Charter of Rights and Freedoms says, in Section 2:

Every has a right to fart in front of the Queen if they so desire. Does not mean they should.

True. It's not 'nice' to offend people. I think we are all on the same page with that.

But this is a critical element of a news story, and people need to be informed. This is more about information and less about insult, from my perspective anyways.

Information and freedom come before people's feelings.

Now the Muslims in Calgary are calling on the police to charge Levant with hate crimes. How stupid, there is no hate, its satire. Offensive yes, but offense is legal. I can say anything I freakin' want in this country, as long as I don't incite violence against a group. Ezra isn't inciting violence, he's publishing information that has otherwise been limited from the public domain.

[newbie]

Ezra isn't inciting violence, he's publishing information that has otherwise been limited from the public domain.

They're all over the net. Hardly limited.