PROVEN: Republicans Actually DO Shoot Puppies in the Face

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

"Run Toto, run! It's Hunter Biden coming to rape us, just because he's a democrat and he knows he can get away with it!"

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Beave...in that state, Noem was well within her rights and her responsibility to put a dog down that had bitten people and attacked livestock. 

You obviously don't have what it takes to understand country life. Now you can drive to the grocery store and buy the food farmers bring to market for you. But don't think about it because...evidently your delicate sensibilities can't handle such common realities.

What BS. The “bitten people” part is clearly exaggerated as despite her detailed description of everything else the dog did to deserve execution, including embarrassing her, she offers no details of it’s aggression or biting just a brief mention in a sentence fragment   

 

Second, attacking chickens is normal dog behaviour ESPECIALLY FOR A DOG SHE JUST TRAINED TO HUNT PHEASANTS AND WAS BRINGING HOME FROM A PHEASANT HUNTING TRIP. 

Third, it’s not like the dog stole her keys and freed herself to attack the chickens, Noem chose to take this dog to a chicken farm knowing what happens when dogs and chickens mix, especially dogs trained to kill ground birds and just returning from a ground bird-killing trip, and she failed to properly secure it.  The animal is an animal what is Noem’s excuse. 
 

You still offer no explanation as to why she couldn’t have done the normal decent thing which is to give the dog away. 
 

Below I offer you this wise comment I stumbled across on another forum, in its entirety, as well as the official tweet of the rescue society for this particular dog breed:

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The only 'obvious and political' thing in this thread is defending killing a 14 month old puppy for the sin of being a puppy because the perpetrator of the act is a high-profile GOP figure.

If you substituted 'Hillary Clinton' or 'Kamala Harris' in place of 'Kristi Noem' with all the same circumstances and explanations that she has given, you guys would be all over it like flies on shit.

And I would not be making excuses for either of them. Wrong is wrong no matter if you're an R or a D.

We liberals on this board are always accused of putting 'team' first, but you guys are just as guilty.

I know you've been involved in dog rescue, Manny, as have I for about the last 25 years. My wife and I are members and supporters of Afghan Hound Rescue of Central Ohio. We have rescued dogs, fostered dogs, transported dogs for the rescue, etc. No one we know in the dog rescue community would agree that a 14 month old dog deserved to be put down like this. That's exactly why there are rescues, shelters, humane societies, etc, to give puppies and dogs a second chance.

Purebred dogs even have the advantage of having breed-specific rescues to rehabilitate and rehome them. Here is the rescue group for German Wirehaired Pointers.

http://www.nationalgwprescue.com/

She was too lazy to take a more humane route.

Kristi Noem failed this dog. Then thought it was good idea to broadcast it to the world in her book to somehow make her more appealing to the MAGA world.

She failed the dog, but succeeded in her end game, witnessed by the response in this thread.

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/non-moto/shooting-14-month-old-dogs?page=2

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Edited May 1, 2024 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Wrong, what you said was a lie. 

There were a few words that were true, but you cherry-picked her comments and grossly mischaracterized her story because you can't help yourself, you're just a slimy lying piece of crap, through and through.

• “I hated that dog,” Noem recalls, calling Cricket, “less than worthless as a hunting dog,” “untrainable,” and “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with.”

FYI you don't just move a dangerous dog on to other families. Especially a dog that big, which can seriously harm a child. 

If that dog was sold to another family and then attacked a child your story would have been: "Kristi Noam knew her dog was dangerous so she sold it to some darkies, hoping it would eat their kids." 

Where in your OP did you mention the part about the dog being considered a danger to humans? She described a dog with violent tendencies, even towards humans.

You described it as a young, playful puppy: "It was "exuberant" and not a good Hunter". 

It wasn't young at 14 months old, it was fully grown. It wasn't 'playful' the way you describe it, its 'fun' was wantonly killing chickens. And it bit her when she went to rein him in. 

 

The title of the thread should be changed from "PROVEN: Republicans Actually DO Shoot Puppies in the Face", to "PROVEN: BeaverFever is a worthless Liar"

 

Bullshit. Once again the only one proved worthless is you, due to your low intellect.

She offers no explanation of why a puppy would be “dangerous” despite having ample opportunity to do so. She only describes how it embarrassed her on a hunting trip and how it did what dogs do when am irresponsible owner fails to secure them on chicken farm, especially one she had been training to hunt fowl and was returning from a fowl hunting trip

Her account doesn’t have any “little Timmy had to get stitches,” no “little Susie is afraid to be in the same room the dog” …..in fact she mentions how her child asks for the dog after it had been shot.  All you have is that one brief sentence fragment to cling to, which she clearly inserted as limp justification, while you ignore everything else  

You are one of the worst offenders on this forum when it comes to being someone who only sees what they want to see and only believes what they want to believe. 
 

Also people rescue and give away vicious dogs all the time.  ALL THE TIME. Some rescue groups even specialize in it. Not that this dog was vicious. Remember that husky that killed a baby and was still adopted out?  The normal thing to do if no new owner an be found is to with call a rescue group or at least give the dog up to SPCA/Humane Society authorities who will then decide what to do with it. 
 

ALSO 14 months isn’t fully grown for many breeds including this one. Look it up. Add that to the long list of things you don’t know   
 

And no, it didn’t bite her. She claims it “went to bite her” when sh grabs it. More of her BS trying to justify her cruelty.
 

Even Trump Jr is making fun of her, don’t contradict your masters. 

Edited May 1, 2024 by BeaverFever

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Bullshit. Once again the only one proved worthless is you, due to your low intellect.

Typical leftard.

You get busted for blatantly lying and it doesn't even phase you.

She described a dog that was wantonly killing chickens and biting her, and you described it as 'an exuberant puppy'.

Go to youtube and search for "exuberant puppy" videos and you won't see a video of a 65-lb dog killing chickens and biting people, you low-IQ lying piece of crap. 

[WestCanMan]

That's what you described. There are others, but they're basically all the same. 

@BeaverFever Maybe your problem is that you just don't understand the meaning of the word exuberant. Did you think it was synonymous with vicious? 

I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here... See if you're just ridiculously stupid, and not as much of a liar. 

[herbie]

21 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

It was a anecdote from her life in the country, it is what happens there.

Jeez you all overreact to everything.

You weren't there, everybody can talk a good game when they aren't the ones facing it.

You really believe in stereotypes, don't you? Bubba,,,,

Country folk shoot a dog because it's old and dying, if it's hopelessly injured or goes after livestock. Not for being a slow learner. Sadistic a$$holes do that.

Animal cruelty -she confessed to a crime. Makes her adorable to Trumpoids.

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

What BS. The “bitten people” part is clearly exaggerated as despite her detailed description of everything else the dog did to deserve execution, including embarrassing her, she offers no details of it’s aggression or biting just a brief mention in a sentence fragment   

 

Second, attacking chickens is normal dog behaviour ESPECIALLY FOR A DOG SHE JUST TRAINED TO HUNT PHEASANTS AND WAS BRINGING HOME FROM A PHEASANT HUNTING TRIP. 

Third, it’s not like the dog stole her keys and freed herself to attack the chickens, Noem chose to take this dog to a chicken farm knowing what happens when dogs and chickens mix, especially dogs trained to kill ground birds and just returning from a ground bird-killing trip, and she failed to properly secure it.  The animal is an animal what is Noem’s excuse. 
 

You still offer no explanation as to why she couldn’t have done the normal decent thing which is to give the dog away. 
 

Below I offer you this wise comment I stumbled across on another forum, in its entirety, as well as the official tweet of the rescue society for this particular dog breed:

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The only 'obvious and political' thing in this thread is defending killing a 14 month old puppy for the sin of being a puppy because the perpetrator of the act is a high-profile GOP figure.

If you substituted 'Hillary Clinton' or 'Kamala Harris' in place of 'Kristi Noem' with all the same circumstances and explanations that she has given, you guys would be all over it like flies on shit.

And I would not be making excuses for either of them. Wrong is wrong no matter if you're an R or a D.

We liberals on this board are always accused of putting 'team' first, but you guys are just as guilty.

I know you've been involved in dog rescue, Manny, as have I for about the last 25 years. My wife and I are members and supporters of Afghan Hound Rescue of Central Ohio. We have rescued dogs, fostered dogs, transported dogs for the rescue, etc. No one we know in the dog rescue community would agree that a 14 month old dog deserved to be put down like this. That's exactly why there are rescues, shelters, humane societies, etc, to give puppies and dogs a second chance.

Purebred dogs even have the advantage of having breed-specific rescues to rehabilitate and rehome them. Here is the rescue group for German Wirehaired Pointers.

http://www.nationalgwprescue.com/

She was too lazy to take a more humane route.

Kristi Noem failed this dog. Then thought it was good idea to broadcast it to the world in her book to somehow make her more appealing to the MAGA world.

She failed the dog, but succeeded in her end game, witnessed by the response in this thread.

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/non-moto/shooting-14-month-old-dogs?page=2

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OK Libbie city-boy...you have no idea what you're talking about as usual but...you do you...

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Country folk shoot a dog because it's old and dying, if it's hopelessly injured or goes after livestock. Not for being a slow learner. Sadistic a$$holes do that.

So what's your position on Oct 7th 2024 again?

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Typical leftard.

You get busted for blatantly lying and it doesn't even phase you.

She described a dog that was wantonly killing chickens and biting her, and you described it as 'an exuberant puppy'.

Go to youtube and search for "exuberant puppy" videos and you won't see a video of a 65-lb dog killing chickens and biting people, you low-IQ lying piece of crap. 

LMAO they only liar here is you, you internet kook

 

You LIE that the dog bit her or anyone else 

 

You LIE that a dog going after chickens especially an adolescent hunting dog she trained to go after pheasants is unusual 

You are such a rabid internet kook you will say anything to defend your cult members from even the most heinous Actually that that the majority of society including republicans condemn 

 

Ps I love being called “low-IQ” by a low-income high school dropout liek you whose shown repeatedly his mental capacity has never evolved past his early adolescent years  You’re a hilarious joke  

 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

OK Libbie city-boy...you have no idea what you're talking about as usual but...you do you...

YOU clear have no idea. Go on, keep pretending what she did was perfectly normal and that dogs are some kind of rare exotic creature that nobody here has any experience with. Even rural republicans and hunting dog experts people who ought to know are outraged at Noem.   
 

In fact the only people defending her seem to  be a small number city-dwelling internet trolls like yourself 

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's what you described. There are others, but they're basically all the same. 

@BeaverFever Maybe your problem is that you just don't understand the meaning of the word exuberant. Did you think it was synonymous with vicious? 

I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here... See if you're just ridiculously stupid, and not as much of a liar. 

Noems lame attempt to describe the dog as vicious when she can’t even give one example or detail of it hurting another human. shows she’s full of shit. Young dogs jump up on people and playfully nip, she hasn’t been able to describe anything other rhat. 
 

The Golden retriever would have gone after the chickens too it’s what unsupervised young dogs do you simpleton 

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

She offers no explanation of why a puppy would be “dangerous” despite having ample opportunity to do so. She only describes how it embarrassed her on a hunting trip and how it did what dogs do when am irresponsible owner fails to secure them on chicken farm, especially one she had been training to hunt fowl and was returning from a fowl hunting trip

Her account doesn’t have any “little Timmy had to get stitches,” no “little Susie is afraid to be in the same room the dog” …..in fact she mentions how her child asks for the dog after it had been shot.  All you have is that one brief sentence fragment to cling to, which she clearly inserted as limp justification, while you ignore everything else  

@WestCanMan:  repeating the above for you dumb ass since you completely ignored the inconvenient facts the first time. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO they only liar here is you, you internet kook

You LIE that the dog bit her or anyone else 

 

You're still lying. Shocker.  Always just doubling-down. 

Here's a psalm from your own bible: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/politics/kristi-noem-south-dakota-book-killing-dog/index.html

• "In the excerpt, Noem writes she attempted to tame the dog, who she said behaved “like a trained assassin,” with an electronic collar, but ultimately made the decision to put her down by shooting her in a gravel pit after an incident in which the dog attacked a local family’s chickens and bit her."

Did CNN lie too, Beave?

Uh-ohhhhhhh. 

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You LIE that a dog going after chickens especially an adolescent hunting dog she trained to go after pheasants is unusual 

When did I say anything was unusual? I never offered an opinion on what % of dogs attack people's chickens. 

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You are such a rabid internet kook you will say anything to defend your cult members from even the most heinous Actually that that the majority of society including republicans condemn 

Now I'm a kook for repeating CNN and Rolling Stone Mag? They're two of the biggest alt-left kook sources out there. 

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Ps I love being called “low-IQ”

God knows you're accustomed to it. Everything that you say is stupid. 

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by a low-income high school dropout liek you whose shown repeatedly his mental capacity has never evolved past his early adolescent years  You’re a hilarious joke  

Awwww, poor little butthurt liar. 

 

In case you're wondering, everything that I said still stands, and now there's even a CNN link to prove that you lied, because even your sources had the truth in them.

How does it feel to be a bigger liar than CNN? 

 

Bottom line: The dog was not "an exuberant puppy who was misbehaving", as you characterized in the OP, it was an approximately 65-lb dog that was killing chickens and attacked its master. You twisted the story to such an extent that what you wrote was an outright lie, and no amount of weaselling and ad-hominem BS is gonna change that Beavey Boy.  

Don't get mad at me, just try to be honest next time, and then I won't be able to use your own words to beat you like a rented mule. 

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Noems lame attempt to describe the dog as vicious when she can’t even give one example or detail of it hurting another human. shows she’s full of shit. Young dogs jump up on people and playfully nip, she hasn’t been able to describe anything other rhat. 
 

The Golden retriever would have gone after the chickens too it’s what unsupervised young dogs do you simpleton 

@WestCanMan:  repeating the above for you dumb ass since you completely ignored the inconvenient facts the first time. 

Is it called double-down when you repeat your BS or double-dumb? 

I dunno, but in either case it's time for you to shut your stupid pie-hole, because everyone here knows the difference between a nip and a bite, and we know the difference between exuberant and wantonly killing things. 

I have a golden retriever right here, my 3rd, and she wouldn't kill chickens. There was never a time when any of my goldens would have killed a chicken, especially if I was there to call them off. I think everyone else who grew up in Canada knows that about goldens, and they know that you're just lying again. 

[herbie]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

So what's your position on Oct 7th 2024 again?

That you can't even keep track of what thread you're in?

I'll bet you can even round up a bunch of fellow MAGAs to argue shooting a puppy because it's slow to learn is a good thing to do. That's why 'deplorable' was about the politest term one can use

[WestCanMan]

58 minutes ago, herbie said:

That you can't even keep track of what thread you're in?

I'll bet you can even round up a bunch of fellow MAGAs to argue shooting a puppy because it's slow to learn is a good thing to do. That's why 'deplorable' was about the politest term one can use

In other words, you can't answer the question, because you're ok with terrorist attacks but not shooting a dangerous dog. 

I wouldn't call you deplorable because it suggests that you're a human, and I that's reaching. 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

YOU clear have no idea. Go on, keep pretending what she did was perfectly normal and that dogs are some kind of rare exotic creature that nobody here has any experience with. Even rural republicans and hunting dog experts people who ought to know are outraged at Noem.   
 

In fact the only people defending her seem to  be a small number city-dwelling internet trolls like yourself 

Oh get a grip on your wee self.

Even I've seen my uncle shoot a dog, and drown barnyard kittens.

Gawd ur such a dweeb.

[herbie]

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

In other words, you can't answer the question,

Oh I can but I won't as it has sweet f*ck all to do with the subject.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh I can but I won't as it has sweet f*ck all to do with the subject.

... and it will make shooting a dangerous dog look like a walk in the park. 

[NakedHunterBiden]

I'm not going to lie, it's not a good look.

[BeaverFever]

On 5/1/2024 at 10:13 PM, Nationalist said:

I've seen my uncle shoot a dog, and drown barnyard kittens.

I am not surprised by that at all LOL.  Revealing that is not the “own” you think it is. 

Edited May 5, 2024 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

On 5/1/2024 at 7:23 PM, WestCanMan said:

Is it called double-down when you repeat your BS or double-dumb? 

I dunno, but in either case it's time for you to shut your stupid pie-hole, because everyone here knows the difference between a nip and a bite, and we know the difference between exuberant and wantonly killing things. 

I have a golden retriever right here, my 3rd, and she wouldn't kill chickens. There was never a time when any of my goldens would have killed a chicken, especially if I was there to call them off. I think everyone else who grew up in Canada knows that about goldens, and they know that you're just lying again. 

Bullshit once again you prove you know nothing.  

In fact Golden Retrievers rank #3 in the number of dog bite incidents Look it upl Not because they’re vicious breed but because they’re popular and all dogs bite if they aren’t properly looked after an any breed can produce a dog who’s just naturally disposed to agression

 

My Brother in Law had a golden with a biting problem with multiple people having to get stitches over the years especially as he got on in. They finally took him to a vet and put him down. Not shot in the face.

You claim you know the difference between a nip and a bite but since Noem doesn’t provide any description of the dog biting anyone there’s no way you could tell.  As Ive said many times and as you keep ignoring, she describes in detail the chickens, which is natural dog behaviour especially for a hunting dog, and the embarrassing behaviour on the hunting trip but sh barely mentions its aggression or biting towards humans other than a sentence fragment to state that it happened. Any intelligent person could tell that she’s bullshitting and since you are clearly not an intelligent person it’s no surprise that’s lost on you. 
 

Lastly she says herself she “hated that dog”. Most people don’t ”hate” their dogs even if they’re aggressive or poorly behaved. They simply decide the dog is not right for them. She hated the puppy because it embarrassed her and she had to pay for the chickens (never come between a Republican and their money).  So she shot it in the face. Any claim of hers that she killed it for safety or it’s aggression towards humans is clearly lacking evidence in the book, and there is no explanation for why it had to be killed instead of given away which is what normal nom-psycho people do. 

[Nationalist]

53 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I am not surprised by that at all LOL.  Revealing that is not the “own” you think it is. 

Beave...you're being silly.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

My Brother in Law had a golden with a biting problem with multiple people having to get stitches over the years especially as he got on in. They finally took him to a vet and put him down. Not shot in the face.

So you have no problem with them killing the dog, your problem is that they shot the dog.

Kid  i think you're losing the moral high ground there   A 12 guage to the head is going to be every single bit as painless and fast as an injection.

Frankly i think biting dogs USUALLY (usually) can be dealt with and trained, i've owned a bad biter, got bit but never let her bite anyone else and got it controlled.  But that's not always possible and if there's children around, that's a problem. I considered putting mine down very seriously and couldn't blame someone for reaching a different decision out of safety.

And we've put dogs down for illness of course. 

If anything i'd take exception to the part where she says just doesn't like a dog and that it didn't hunt was part of her justification.  So  give it away then.  But  she may have felt the biting was just too severe, you just don't know from the text.

 

But  at the end of the day you can't admit your family chose to kill a dog for biting, same as she did, and then quibble about the method like that.  That's just hypocrisy.

[robosmith]

On 4/30/2024 at 1:22 PM, User said:

So, you believe she shot a puppy but then conveniently think she lied about the circumstances. 

She certainly WAS NOT forced to kill it. There are many ASPCA who would take it off her hands.

[robosmith]

On 4/30/2024 at 3:41 PM, Nationalist said:

Hey Beave...what does the dog pound do with dogs that don't get adopted?

They don't shoot them in the face. BTW, there are many NO KILL shelters, but maybe NOT in ND since she seems to believe "worthless" dogs are disposable.